The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - Part 11

[Bruce Malone]

I don't know why some people are against this movie, I think that this is far better movie than Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies, I am saying this even though I like Raimi as a director and thought that SM 2 was good movie, it was just not the Spider-Man that I wanted.

As far as Sony Image Works CGI is concerned, it takes some time for them to polish the effects but once they get there their work is as good as any other SFX studio out there (including ILM, WETA).


The CGI effects in Green Lantern were uneven, meaning that some shots were really good, but some looked unfinished, they needed more time.

EDIT: plus this time James Horner is doing the score, I am sure it will be more epic and He will provide a better theme for Spider-Man than last movies.

What? how can you even say that? The movie has not even been released yet are you're already saying it is far better than spider-man 2 one of the best superhero films of all time.

You know spider-man 3 had some good trailers and we saw how that turned out. I think it's comments like that push people against this films as well.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If someone is willing to turn against a good movie because someone said it will be better than another movie...

Screw them. They're obviously a sensitive little baby unprepared for the real world.

 

[Mike]

Idk about the movie as a whole, and I hate to use this word, but it really is "grounded" and natural. From the web swinging to the dialogue. I can't wait man haha.

 

[Micromind]

What? how can you even say that? The movie has not even been released yet are you're already saying it is far better than spider-man 2 one of the best superhero films of all time.

You know spider-man 3 had some good trailers and we saw how that turned out. I think it's comments like that push people against this films as well.

My issue with the older movies is its campiness and it did feel as if the movie was going out of its way to make Peter Parker look like a loser, overall it was an underwhelming take on Spidey.

watch this scene for camp.

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[Mike]

I can top that
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X7m2-7fBBKw

 

[elsewhere]

Yeah my only concern is the CGI. I mean the Lizard's claw reaching in the car and ripping the car seat looked pretty bad. I'm sure it will be fixed. If not, let's hope there are few scenes of that quality. I'm thinking they should have went with WETA Workshop.

 

[Bruce Malone]

My issue with the older movies is its campiness and it did feel as if the movie was going out of its way to make Peter Parker look like a loser, overall it was an underwhelming take on Spidey.

watch this scene for camp.

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Yes there was an amount of camp but i not too long ago re-watched spider-man 2 for the 1st time in a while and its actually held up quite well, better than i thought it would.

That scene and like 1 other are really the only campy moments in the film and there pretty spread out. Even the singing in the rain montage has actually more charm/humor than camp.

Regardless there is no proof at all the new spider flick is or will be better. Most of the changes seem rather forced as well. Let's make peter parker a skateboarding hipster, every major scene taking place at night apparently cuz it's dark like batman. The costume and its design. An apparently un-charismatic dr.connors.

Spider-man 3 was dreadful if only raimi could have taken what he had done in part 2 and just continued on that the spider-man franchise would have been in good hands.

 

[Dragon]

How does he know he is there to help? For all he knows he could be the cause.

Because he says "I'm here to help you". He doesn't need to unmask immediately. The kid is old enough to spot that this guy is wearing a costume. I'm sure that in that world the idea of fictional costumed heroes exists so a child would be more accepting of it than even an adult. And between falling to your death and climbing into the arms of a masked stranger, the kid would've recognized Spidey as the lesser of two evils.

Honestly the whole scenario is ridiculous. The kid is about to drop to his death- but he only starts screaming when Spidey lands on the car to help him. Spidey doesn't immediately web the kid- he waits until the car starts to drop. He could've easily just webbed the entire seat and ripped it free from the car. And why exactly is it the ONE CAR that suddenly bursts into flames?

 

[GuestStar2004]

The kid is old enough to spot that this guy is wearing a costume.

kid was probably scared out of his mind at that point with the car hanging down off a bridge, he obviously didnt know what was happening when someone lands on the car and rips the back off the car

Honestly the whole scenario is ridiculous. The kid is about to drop to his death- but he only starts screaming when Spidey lands on the car to help him. Spidey doesn't immediately web the kid- he waits until the car starts to drop. He could've easily just webbed the entire seat and ripped it free from the car. And why exactly is it the ONE CAR that suddenly bursts into flames?

wasnt the kid straped in to the seat? so he couldnt web him then, and then when spiderman is holding the car up from falling again would he risk attempting to web the kid or hope he gets out by climbing, and i think its safe to say when he did web him he looked very unsure of himself

 

[Naked Shia]

I didn't see that preview yet. But I think I understand the point of Spidey unmasking himself, and it seems like a good way to humanize him, IMO.

 

[GuestStar2004]

i didnt mind the unmasking so much as im glad he put it back on in the end to the dad of the child

 

[Abudefduf]

kid was probably scared out of his mind at that point with the car hanging down off a bridge, he obviously didnt know what was happening when someone lands on the car and rips the back off the car

Exactly. A monster just threw him and the car out of the bridge, he doesn't know where his father is and he hears people screaming all around him, if anything he was even too calm about the whole situation.

Spidey doesn't immediately web the kid- he waits until the car starts to drop. He could've easily just webbed the entire seat and ripped it free from the car.

Best way to harm or even kill the kid.
That could indeed be an intriguing set up for the sequel though, which would need to be a courtroom drama about Spider-man trying to clear up his image after being labeled as a child beater. That would underline even more the realism of this new take on the character. I'm sold.

But seriously, I think he simply wanted to pick the kid up from the car gently without scaring him anymore.

 

[Nathan]

Honestly, even webbing up the kid at the end looked risky. Like he could have snapped his head back, had he hit the frame of the window.

 

[Smegger56]

That was pretty cool. I liked how the reason behind him removing the mask too. To reassure a scared kid.

Soooooooo excited for this film :-D

 

[Oscorp]

Wow! That one minute of the preview was really awesome!! I'm stunned!

For once, I love the reason behind Peter taking off his mask! At first, I was like "WTF, again!!?" but when I understood his purpose for doing that, I just smiled!

Oh, and this proves even more that Garfield was born for this role! The way he delivers the "Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'm a normal guy! " to the kid is so perfect! You really feel how he's such a warm, likeable character, someone you can feel safe with!

I have a few major problems with this clip however! As many people here have already said, the CGI is very lacking! Not only do the scratches on the car seat look very bad, but the Lizard's hand movement itself looks unnatural as well. Also, the way the first car falls and gets webbed by Spidey looks unnatural too! There doesn't seem to be any momentum to it.

Though the feeling itself and the colours and acting of this clip made up for it IMO, but I really hope SIW makes some improvement on the CGI.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Though the feeling itself and the colours and acting of this clip made up for it IMO, but I really hope SIW makes some improvement on the CGI.

Yeah, I agree. To be fair, it's hard for them to keep the unfinished footage under wraps when the audience needs to be assured all the time that this film is worthwhile

I hope that doesn't create an opposite reaction

 

[Goliath]

Good clip. Although Spiderman looked a little weak in that clip. Granted the force needed to hold the car caused the rear end to buckle and it probably would have been ripped apart, but he still seemed to be struggling. Just preventing it from falling looked like a major effort for him. This guy can lift 10-12 tons. He's not even picking the car up, but preventing it from falling, which is much easier than the lifting. Perhaps the fire was causing him problems, who knows.

 

[Brain Damage]

Did anyone else laugh when the trailer started with a few ominous piano notes?

Maybe I've been watching the TDKR trailer too many times, but it looks like the person who put this footage together did too.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Good clip. Although Spiderman looked a little weak in that clip. Granted the force needed to hold the car caused the rear end to buckle and it probably would have been ripped apart, but he still seemed to be struggling. Just preventing it from falling looked like a major effort for him. This guy can lift 10-12 tons. He's not even picking the car up, but preventing it from falling, which is much easier than the lifting. Perhaps the fire was causing him problems, who knows.

perhaps he couldn't get a solid grip

 

[GuestStar2004]

no human could hold a car up while hanging off a web, so i think its fair to say it doesnt make spiderman look weak

 

[Nathan]

Lifting something, especially with both hands, is much easier, than holding on to something, that's attached to a line of web, with one hand.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

Honestly, even webbing up the kid at the end looked risky. Like he could have snapped his head back, had he hit the frame of the window.

That's what I was thinking too
Still a great and moving scene

 

[Spiderdevil]

Yeah my only concern is the CGI. I mean the Lizard's claw reaching in the car and ripping the car seat looked pretty bad. I'm sure it will be fixed. If not, let's hope there are few scenes of that quality. I'm thinking they should have went with WETA Workshop.

LOL I've no idea what the fans want
Thats as good a CGI as it can get

 

[Dragon]

kid was probably scared out of his mind at that point with the car hanging down off a bridge, he obviously didnt know what was happening when someone lands on the car and rips the back off the car

The kid would've been afraid of falling. He'd have been at least a little relieved if someone statrting making maneuvers to free him.

wasnt the kid straped in to the seat? so he couldnt web him then, and then when spiderman is holding the car up from falling again would he risk attempting to web the kid or hope he gets out by climbing, and i think its safe to say when he did web him he looked very unsure of himself

Yeah.. He could've webbed the entire seat with the kid strapped to it and yanked it free of the car. If Spidey and his web are strong enough to hold the entire car it would've been strong enough to pull the child and seat away.

Best way to harm or even kill the kid.

Really? I doubt that since the kid's body did handle the whiplash. He even handled the whiplash of the car itself slamming to a halt on Spidey's webline, which would've been worse. So the kid in the seat, when the seat would be absorbing the shock of the fall would be even safer. Not to mention the fact that since the car did ignite there was every chance it would've exploded killing the child, so time was of the essence.

 

[Dangerman]

I'm sorry but wasn't the point of OMD to get rid of people knowing who Spider-Man is and all these unmasking going on? So why are they doing it so much in this movie?