The Amazing Spider-Man v.2 - Part 2

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Reading 666 and so far this is Dan's hammiest writing on this book ever. I'm so over the loss of the Spider-Sense, just give it back, especially if Dan's going to write something as cliche as Phil saving Peter from a bus and Peter lamenting about how their could be danger around ANY corner.

:rolleyes:
 
so....there's a chance Ben Reilly might be back in this Spider-Island storyline??

just hope they don't bring him back to mutate him into one of those man-spider monsters......

that would just slap all the Reilly fans in the face......lol
 
So, I heard on the news that Peter Parker is dead and the new Spiderman is black/latino. What is the story behind this?
 
I'm curious as to how many people would be cool with Ben Reilly coming back.

Clone Saga be damned; I always liked Ben. I would love to see him back as the Scarlet Spider, though in a better costume.
 
Nah, he died. Like turned into dust died. And he went out well, like a hero should. Let's just leave it at that. The only way to bring him back from literally decaying into dust would be some sort of deal with the devil and that would just be silly.

The whole point of him was to get a new single spider-man and with OMD we already have that.
 
He could maybe use a better name, too, now that I think about it. "Scarlet Spider" is a lot like "Red Robin" in that it doesn't sound great conversationally. But oh well.
 
I could care less because I know in my mind he's not coming back to replace Peter this time. Marvel learned their lesson.
 
spideyboy_1111 said:
Don't 99.9% of resurrections seem to heal you completely?
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This is my favorite message board quote in a LONG time. :-)

C'mon. When Doc was resurrected...
Did he still need glasses? Was his vision wasn't "healed"?
Was he still fat?
If he had a gallbladder or appendix removed, would they have grown back?
It's all very arbitrary to say how and in what ways someone is brought back from "the dead" in the pages of a comic book.
 
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stillanerd said:
Well, this USA Today article told about at least two big stories coming up:
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So, we'll get a mega Dr. Octopus/Sinister Six arc after SPIDER-ISLAND as well as a Lizard story next year? Sounds good, so long as I try not to remember that Lizard ate his own son. That's horrifically repulsive. But as for Doc Ock, I like Slott's approach. The Sinister Six evolved past a Spider-Man revenge squad in the late 80's and early 90's when Erik Larson was drawing the book, when Ock started using them for global threats. Often what held them back was their bickering - either against each other or usually against Ock. This roster, however, doesn't suffer that ill. He got rid of the lunatics like Kraven and Hobgoblin, or the often stubborn Vulture. Thanks to Wizard's Id machine, Sandman hasn't had a conscience in years. So we're left with a roster that has him alongside some founders (Electro, Mysterio, Sandman) as well as some characters originally added in the "Insidious Six" from the 90's cartoon (Rhino and Chameleon). Heck, in REVENGE OF THE SINISTER SIX, the half dozen baddies were a challenge for a full alliance of heroes such as Spidey, the FF, Nova, Ghost Rider, Solo, Sleepwalker, and Hulk!

As for Reilly, I think I said enough on the last page. I don't care for Marvel teasing his small number of ravenous fans when I'm not convinced they'll ever revive him for long. In fact, I hope they don't because he has nothing to offer; any unique quirk he had has been adopted by Peter himself out of either BRAND NEW DAY or BIG TIME. He'd have nothing to offer but another version of the same character we have now, in a new hairstyle and costume. That may be enough for DC, but Marvel beats their own drum. If he is back, I don't see him surviving the arc. I'm not convinced that "perfect clone" is him, anyway. It's hard to come back from dust, and it'd take quite an infodump to retcon a story from 1998 or so. Reilly only divides fans, and I think ASM has done enough of that; I see BIG TIME as trying to unite them under the run of one writer, and I'd hate to lose that.
 
Dan_Slott said:
This is my favorite message board quote in a LONG time. :-)

C'mon. When Doc was resurrected...
Did he still need glasses? Was his vision wasn't "healed"?
Was he still fat?
If he had a gallbladder or appendix removed, would they have grown back?
It's all very arbitrary to say how and in what ways someone is brought back from "the dead" in the pages of a comic book.
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*yawn* We all know Ock wheres his glasses lens less just to look cool :cwink:

and umm.. since when does being fat something that needs to be healed? He's not Obese to the point of dying... and to be honest once he returned he was only briefly drawn fat...
 
I read a bit of Ben Reilly back in the day and enjoyed him, but I really don't think bringing him back now is a good idea. There were better times, but now, it's just not right. IF they do it and it's surprisingly awesome. I'll eat crow. It's just that I can't see it happening without so much ridiculousness going into it and then it ultimately being useless and having him go to limbo. His end was dramatic and had closure, but doing a resurrection only to send him off to limbo, or make him radically different in order to justify change and diversity will be a bad move.
 
Unless Ben is going to be important for the next few years, leave him dead...........I just can't survive another Bucky :(
 
I still think the "perfect clone" is Spidercide...Jackal seemed to love him during the Clone Saga...

Honestly, I think that if 'Cide was handled right he could make a pretty awesome character. Just think if everyone was led to believe he was Reilly and then suddenly, BOOM he is the "evil shapeshifting clone". If anyone could handle a story like that right, it would be Slott...
 
See, this is the worst part of having the Jackal back in Spider-Island. If it's good (and we all know Slott will make it good) people are going to convince themselves The Clone Saga was the greatest story in the history of comics. If you lived through that storyline and think that it was good, you are clearly living a LIE.
 
Hah. That's like saying since we now have a black President today, slavery wasn't all that bad if you think about it...
 
runawayboulder said:
See, this is the worst part of having the Jackal back in Spider-Island. If it's good (and we all know Slott will make it good) people are going to convince themselves The Clone Saga was the greatest story in the history of comics. If you lived through that storyline and think that it was good, you are clearly living a LIE.
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I think the Clone Saga was a good story. Nor am I living a lie. Sometimes people like things that you aren't going to like. I don't think it's the greatest story in the history of comics but there were stories in there that were really good and there were a lot of great opportunities for further awesome Spider-Man stories...it just went in another direction. There was a good portion of crappy comics and things got out of control with certain story elements and "too many clones". I was having a lot of fun with Spider-Man comics during that time. However, guess I'm living a lie according to you. :cwink:
 
Shockdingo said:
I read a bit of Ben Reilly back in the day and enjoyed him, but I really don't think bringing him back now is a good idea. There were better times, but now, it's just not right. IF they do it and it's surprisingly awesome. I'll eat crow. It's just that I can't see it happening without so much ridiculousness going into it and then it ultimately being useless and having him go to limbo. His end was dramatic and had closure, but doing a resurrection only to send him off to limbo, or make him radically different in order to justify change and diversity will be a bad move.
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Have faith, my friend, lol.
 
SpideyInATree said:
I think the Clone Saga was a good story. Nor am I living a lie. Sometimes people like things that you aren't going to like. I don't think it's the greatest story in the history of comics but there were stories in there that were really good and there were a lot of great opportunities for further awesome Spider-Man stories...it just went in another direction. There was a good portion of crappy comics and things got out of control with certain story elements and "too many clones". I was having a lot of fun with Spider-Man comics during that time. However, guess I'm living a lie according to you. :cwink:
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Yes you are. Now go ask one of the mods if you can change your user name to Fake Spidey in a Tree. ;)
 
the first issue of spider-island was interesting and should be a fun series. though i did enjoy the hobgoblin story more.

the jackal sub story has only further my suspicions that the mastermind is
the queen

also did anyone else think the london based "gwen" was her daughter
 
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I don't see what's so wrong with the jackal a super genius with better skills than mister sinister being the mastermind.
 
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