The Avengers The Avengers Critics Reviews Thread - Part 3

Has Jett said in the past that TDK is a game-changer? Because he's not saying that in his review. It reads

THE AVENGERS is not a game-changer, nor would I put it on the same shelf with the best films of this category -- like[COLOR=lightsteelblue !important][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=lightsteelblue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=lightsteelblue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] THE DARK KNIGHT, SPIDER-MAN 2 and [COLOR=lightsteelblue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=lightsteelblue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=lightsteelblue !important][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=lightsteelblue !important][FONT=inherit !important][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]SUPERMAN THE MOVIE for example. [/FONT] But it’s definitely on the shelf below.
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Sam Jackson ripped into a film critic for giving the movie a bad review... the way i look at it, as long as i like it... i don't care what a critic or anyone else has to say....
 
Very happy about the influx of positive reviews. Looks like TA may end up having 94% or even higher. :yay:
 
Kalonthar said:
Has Jett said in the past that TDK is a game-changer? Because he's not saying that in his review. It reads
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Well, he's right about The Avengers not sitting on the same shelf of Dark Knight, Superman: The Movie and Spider-Man 2. He's wrong about the position of The Avengers shelf though, because The Avengers sits above ANYTHING that has come before in the genre of movies based on comic book characters.

The Avengers right now shares space with the Star Wars Original Trilogy as the ultimate blockbuster. And it is a game changer, just not what he'd like to be - as others have already pointed out.
 
I see "not a game changer" is the new "popcorn flick".
 
[QUOTE="_____";23139827]Sam Jackson ripped into a film critic for giving the movie a bad review... the way i look at it, as long as i like it... i don't care what a critic or anyone else has to say....[/QUOTE]

If I was a movie critic, I'd think twice before piss off Nick Fury. Never knows when he will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy His brothers. And who does that, usually gets to know that His name is the Lord, when He lay His vengeance upon thee.
 
More about Jett's "review":

For someone that runs a Batman-On-Film website, I'm baffled that he says TDK is an example of the best of the genre and not Batman Begins. Time will show how much Batman Begins was the best Nolan's Batmovie all along. I can't believe someone who claims to be a Batman specialist not perceive that The Dark Knight not even remembers that while Gotham was brilliantly introduced in the first movie, it's completely forgotten in the second movie. Oh well, enough of derailing the thread.
 
San Francisco Chronicle: 'Marvel's the Avengers' review: Kicks serious butt


After four years, five previous films, countless hours of waiting, watching, getting teased and sorting through backstories, it's finally here: "Marvel's the Avengers," the mother of all big-budget comic adaptations and the stereoscopic supergroup of superhero movies.

As such, it has no right to be this good. A 3-D movie featuring not one, not two, but six brilliant and/or ludicrously muscled protagonists fighting to defend Planet Earth from a Nordic god in a snit has no right to be anything but confusing, ridiculous and generally devoid of simple human affect. And yet it's none of those things.

Instead, Joss Whedon's delicious ode to the Marvel universe boasts clarity, conviction and characters who live and breathe. There are moments of genuine pathos, genuine humor, genuine surprise. As much as the film adheres to the strictures of the standard comic-book movie, it also pops with a knowing, loving, Whedon-world jokiness that keeps everything barreling along.

[...]

Whedon, a pop-genre magician best known for "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," is a master of viewer manipulation - because he never gives up his own seat in the crowd. "The Avengers" does what we expect it to do. Its 3-D-converted visuals look mighty fine, and it racks up a goodly amount of photogenic property damage as the story progresses. And do stay put through the credits: The reward will be with the most inspired yet of Marvel Easter eggs - to cap off the most inspired yet of Marvel movies.
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iJackSparrow said:
More about Jett's "review":

For someone that runs a Batman-On-Film website, I'm baffled that he says TDK is an example of the best of the genre and not Batman Begins. Time will show how much Batman Begins was the best Nolan's Batmovie all along. I can't believe someone who claims to be a Batman specialist not perceive that The Dark Knight not even remembers that while Gotham was brilliantly introduced in the first movie, it's completely forgotten in the second movie. Oh well, enough of derailing the thread.
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Gotham looked the same in Begins as it did in Dark Knight. The Narrows are what looked like what you're thinking of, there was never a reason to go there in Dark Knight.
 
This "war" between fans of Nolan's Batman films and fans of Marvel Studios pictures has got to stop. It's childish, incredibly stupid and both sides are to blame.
 
Agent Orange said:
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-avengers-2012

70 on Metacritic through 36 reviews (that site usually peaks at around 40 reviews per movie).

Hopefully, it climbs a little higher. I expected this to finish closer to 80.
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Well, it should be higher really, the way some of the reviews sound compared to the score that was given on the review. Looking at it now, it just reminds me of the disparity between comic book films by the fanbases. The Avengers so far seems absolutely loved by the fans and it sits at 70 right now on metacritic. Meanwhile, Superman Returns is constantly berated for being absolute crap and it's at 72. Of course, RT is a different story.
 
HighFivingMF said:
Gotham looked the same in Begins as it did in Dark Knight. The Narrows are what looked like what you're thinking of, there was never a reason to go there in Dark Knight.
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Gotham City is a fictional city. A fictional city as much important as Batman's cowl for the mythos. Batman Begins estabilishes the city superbly, giving the city a character for itself. All this was forgotten in TDK, in my opinion. It says it happens in Gotham, they mention the city but... it just doesn't feel like the same Gotham as the first movie to me. Goyer wrote Batman Begins with Nolan, and that was the best Batman movie so far. Once Nolan got full creative control, he kind of lost it with TDK. Ledger's Joker was a brilliant addition for the Batman mythos, but just Joker doesn't make a movie briliant or one of "the best of the genre". I think time will show to a lot of people how overrated TDK really is, and how much people ignore BB as the best Batman movie so far.

Agent Orange said:
This "war" between fans of Nolan's Batman films and fans of Marvel Studios pictures has got to stop. It's childish, incredibly stupid and both sides are to blame.
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I'm not in war with anyone. I love Batman, and I love Nolan's Batman Begins. I'll comment no further about this because I've said my piece about BB and TDK, but if anything, this "war" is being fight for just one side and everyone knows it. The childish and petty things I've read from some Nolan's fans about not going to watch The Avengers at the opening day so they won't give Marvel any money and how they try to diminish The Avengers thunder are something I'd never do.

I'll be at Amazing Spider-Man's, TDKR's and Prometheus opening days. Because I'm aware that we can love all of them. But that's not something that go both ways with some Nolan's fans.
 
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Oh look, more comparisons with The Dark Knight. Maybe this time you guys will figure it out and settle things.
 
RT added another rotten review. Doesn't say who it's from yet.
 
TomPiltoff said:
Oh look, more comparisons with The Dark Knight. Maybe this time you guys will figure it out and settle things.
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Batman-On-Film's Jett wrote a "review" saying that The Avengers isn't in the same league of TDK. I simply agreed and said that The Avengers is above everything this genre has done so far, nothing big. Then I derailed the thread a little to talk about the differences between BB and TDK, I haven't seen anyone but Jett comparing TDK with The Avengers.
 
The Wall Street Journal gave it a rotten. So did something called Boston Phoenix :whatever:
 
craigdbfan said:
RT added another rotten review. Doesn't say who it's from yet.
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It's the Boston Phoenix review. Lame. We were on our way back to 94 percent until that one. And Slate's negative review is still to come -- that'll put it at 13 negatives total. Iron Man had 18 and still hit 94 percent, so there's hope for Avengers getting back there eventually.

Metacritic is a different story -- doesn't look like it's going to go much higher there. It needed more 4 stars/5 out of 5 reviews to counterbalance the middle of the road ones. Though I still think the Variety and Hollywood Reporter reviews read more like 100s or 90s than 80s to me. I think it'll end up around 72, which, while not at the level of Iron Man or Dark Knight, still puts it above 95 percent of all superhero films.
 
TomPiltoff said:
Oh look, more comparisons with The Dark Knight. Maybe this time you guys will figure it out and settle things.
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When something is called the greatest superhero film of all-time by anyone its gonna get comparisons when something comes out that challenges that.

I actually feel at fault for this coming up I did post Jett's review but I wasn't trying to start anything with that just added it cause it was a positive review.
 
warcam said:
The Wall Street Journal gave it a rotten. So did something called Boston Phoenix :whatever:
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I don't see WSJ on RT yet, but the review read as a slight positive (minus the three paragraphs complaining about 3D glasses). Are you sure on this one?

EDIT: You're right, never mind. Couldn't find it on the Avengers page but on his critic's page it's listed as rotten. Ugh. I blame his faulty 3D glasses.

Also, it's down to 92 percent now. BOOOOOO.
 
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