Infinity War The Avengers: Infinity War The Official News and Speculation - - - - Part 19

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[shadowboxxx]

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I am really hoping Ebony Maw did some type of action (either convince someone or influence them to do his bidding) that took out the Asgardians and that they are not really dead, just laid out.

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They look in pretty bad shape man, not to mention the fact that the place is burning down.

 

[HammerDown]

As i said previously no wonder Thor, Hulk and their team get stomped when facing Thanos and his crew.

Thanos with Power Stone
Ebony Maw
Corvus Glaive
Cull Obsidian
Proxima Midnight

vs

Thor
Hulk
Heimdall
Valkyrie
Korg
Miek

Talk about a one-sided battle. Just Thanos with the Power Stone would most likely wreck the other team out. Add to the trouble the Black Order and is almost a walk in the park for the bad guys.

 

[KevTravels]

Exactly this. That would take away so much. That'd be like Thor getting his eye back.

He probably works the War Machine suit just fine without fully functioning legs anyways.

I get that WM isn't a big character, but they really dropped the ball on his characterization since the 2nd film.

His injury even if it lasts a scene or 2 could actually do more to humanize him. I sure felt sad watching CW and thinking he might have died. Though I did think that Marvel surely wouldn't have shown this in the trailer.

 

[KevTravels]

so gets 2nd billing for the film?

I'm guessing it's Evans but it could also be Pratt or perhaps Johanssen. They've had bigger films outside of the MCU whereas Evans is strictly been Cap the last few years.

Gonna be an eyesore reading like 25 A-list names above the title, but will be interesting to see how it's arranged.

 

[Mjölnir]

I kinda wish they would. He's just comedic material now and it's gotten so old.

I disagree there. He's pretty consistently tied to the best emotional moments of Thor, and he's a clear part of how they show Thor's character progress in Ragnarok.

 

[Marvolo]

I disagree there. He's pretty consistently tied to the best emotional moments of Thor, and he's a clear part of how they show Thor's character progress in Ragnarok.

Agreed. I love Thor and Loki's interactions. I won't be surprised of Loki does die, but I'd be upset. He's one of the highlights of the MCU.

 

[liveman789]

I wonder if we'll finally see Dinklage in the new trailer, or if they're gonna decide and keep him a surprise for the general audience.

 

[HammerDown]

I think if Marvel wants to do things right in relation to Loki, then the best way to go is to have him die in IW or A4. The dynamics between Thor and Loki are almost done, Thor knows Loki can't be trusted and even worse than that he started showing that he doesn't care so much... the death of the rest of the asgardian people, because of Loki's actions in taking the Tesseract, is the final "drop" in their relationship. Game over right there.

It's Loki's fault. Thor won't give a damn about him after this. So for Loki to have that final sign of attention and some sort of respect from his brother he needs to sacrifice himself for good. It's the only way he will become somewhat redeemable in Thor's eyes.

I really hope Loki dies. Enough is enough.
Thor has learned his lesson so many times and after what Loki did there's not coming back from that.

 

[shadowboxxx]

so gets 2nd billing for the film?

I'm guessing it's Evans but it could also be Pratt or perhaps Johanssen. They've had bigger films outside of the MCU whereas Evans is strictly been Cap the last few years.

Gonna be an eyesore reading like 25 A-list names above the title, but will be interesting to see how it's arranged.

Only downside to this movie... Lots of fans will be disapointed their favorite character didnt get enough screen time.

 

[Iceman]

As i said previously no wonder Thor, Hulk and their team get stomped when facing Thanos and his crew.


Talk about a one-sided battle. Just Thanos with the Power Stone would most likely wreck the other team out. Add to the trouble the Black Order and is almost a walk in the park for the bad guys.

Might be interesting without Thanos.

 

[samsnee]

I can’t imagine they’d kill the entire remaining race of Asgardians would they? That would negate the entire ending of Ragnarok.

 

[HammerDown]

Might be interesting without Thanos.

Still very one-sided i think.

Ebony Maw
Corvus Glaive
Cull Obsidian
Proxima Midnight

vs

Thor
Hulk
Heimdall
Valkyrie
Korg
Miek

 

[BigThor]

Still very one-sided i think.

Lol how? Thor, Hulk, Valkyrie, and Heimdall are some heavy hitters they should be more than enough to combat the Black Order alone.

Proxima is gonna struggle against Cap, Black Widow, and Falcon lmao Thor could easily kill those three without breaking a sweat.

 

[legendkillin]

I wonder if we'll finally see Dinklage in the new trailer, or if they're gonna decide and keep him a surprise for the general audience.

Would be nice to get a glimpse of him but who knows. I go in blind anyways.

 

[legendkillin]

Looks like Banner will interact with everyone where Stark wont event talk to Cap or Thor. Interesting

Civil War events should not be glossed over. I like that Cap and Stark likely won't interact until the end of the movie or into A4. It could take the ass whooping for both of them to come together.

 

[legendkillin]

All this talk about protecting Vision's stone...

But what about protecting Dr Strange's stone?

As strong as Vision is suppose to be he comes off weak. I think Strange is more capable of defending himself and the stone. He could hop into other dimensions too.

 

[legendkillin]

I can’t imagine they’d kill the entire remaining race of Asgardians would they? That would negate the entire ending of Ragnarok.

I don't think they will, Heimdall will try to get as many to safety as possible. They also have the "Birthday Orgy" ship on top of the big ship so they can have some leave in that.

 

[legendkillin]

Only downside to this movie... Lots of fans will be disapointed their favorite character didnt get enough screen time.

We have two movies though so I think it will balance out.

 

[HammerDown]

Lol how? Thor, Hulk, Valkyrie, and Heimdall are some heavy hitters they should be more than enough to combat the Black Order alone.

Proxima is gonna struggle against Cap, Black Widow, and Falcon lmao Thor could easily kills those three without breaking a sweat.

How? Do you even know how powerful each and every element of the Black Order is? Only Thor and Hulk are heavy hitters. Valkyrie and Heimdall are nowhere near their level.

Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight are able to take on both Vision and SW. 2 of the biggest hitters in the Avengers roster. And by the looks of it they are able to get the upper hand and pin Vision down without that much of a problem.

The we have Black Dwarf that i'm guessing will be around the same level as Hulk. Not to even mention Ebony Maw that can mess with Doctor Strange himself. Scarlet Witch easily messed with the Hulk's making him go nuts. Ebony Maw is most likely even more skilled than she is... He would probably get into Hulk's head and turn him against everyone else.

 

[HammerDown]

All this talk about protecting Vision's stone...

But what about protecting Dr Strange's stone?

Vision has the backing of Scarlet Witch, Cap, Black Widow and Falcon.
Doctor Strange is together with Wong, Iron Man, Hulk and maybe Spider - Man.

So 2 strong enough groups capable of fending Corvus Glaive & Proxima Midnight and Ebony Maw & Cull Obsidian.

 

[BigThor]

How? Do you even know how powerful each and every element of the Black Order is? Only Thor and Hulk are heavy hitters. Valkyrie and Heimdall are nowhere near their level.

Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight are able to take on both Vision and SW. 2 of the biggest hitters in the Avengers roster. And by the looks of it they are able to get the upper hand and pin Vision down without that much of a problem.

The we have Black Dwarf that i'm guessing will be around the same level as Hulk. Not to even mention Ebony Maw that can mess with Doctor Strange himself. Scarlet Witch easily messed with the Hulk's making him go nuts. Ebony Maw is most likely even more skilled than she is... He would probably get into Hulk's head and turn him against everyone else.

Valkyrie and Heimdall are far above the likes of Cap, Black Widow, and Falcon is what I mean by heavy hitters. I don't consider taking down Scarlett Witch to be anything special because she's a glass cannon and can't even fully control her powers.

 

[liveman789]

How? Do you even know how powerful each and every element of the Black Order is? Only Thor and Hulk are heavy hitters. Valkyrie and Heimdall are nowhere near their level.

Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight are able to take on both Vision and SW. 2 of the biggest hitters in the Avengers roster. And by the looks of it they are able to get the upper hand and pin Vision down without that much of a problem.

The we have Black Dwarf that i'm guessing will be around the same level as Hulk. Not to even mention Ebony Maw that can mess with Doctor Strange himself. Scarlet Witch easily messed with the Hulk's making him go nuts. Ebony Maw is most likely even more skilled than she is... He would probably get into Hulk's head and turn him against everyone else.

I'm guessing Cap and all them are going top be very lucky in their escape from those 2. It's not like they're gonna win that fight IMO.

 

[HammerDown]

Valkyrie and Heimdall are far above the likes of Cap, Black Widow, and Falcon is what I mean by heavy hitters. i don't consider taking down Scarlett Witch to be anything special because she's a glass cannon and can't even fully control her powers.

Movies progress and so do characters. Thor has become more powerful and so can Scarlet Witch. SW is different now than when she was introduced in AoU and she has improved. She has the most potential of all Avengers. In CA: Civil War she easily took Vision out of the picture... it was scary to see her just manipulate him like that. Sure she isn't the most stable and all but if she can control and focus her magic then she is a massive threat.