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Infinity War The Avengers: Infinity War The Official News and Speculation - - - - - - - - Part 23

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I wish, but so far the MCU has portrayed Spidey as overeager and awkward fanboy rather than witty & clever smartass, I don't see it changing any time soon

Well I'm not too mad. Tbh, I can see they're setting up Peter as the awkward fanboy and are probably gonna have him transfer to more of the motor mouth Spidey we know post his high school phase.
 
My favorite Spidey line so far is "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!", which was such a Deadpool-like thing to say because we were all internally thinking it since the First Avenger.

Yeah, I've noticed that Marvel likes to poke fun at the more outlandish, improbable or simply outdated aspects of the source material they've chosen to adapt, as opposed to radically changing or omitting it altogether. This way they're able to have their cake and eat it too.
 
My favorite Spidey line so far is "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!", which was such a Deadpool-like thing to say because we were all internally thinking it since the First Avenger.

Mine is the crack about Stark telling him to take out Cap's legs. It's pretty obvious Steve skips legs day. LOL

Nothing beats the banter between Falcon and Winter Soldier though. "Everyone's got a gimmick these days."
 
Do we know why the world's militaries aren't fighting in Wakanda alongside the Avengers and wakandians? It made sense in Avengers 1 because the National Guard wasn't called until the attack was under way and the Security Council decided to nuke New York instead of sending the military. But the Avengers know Thanos is coming ahead of time, and Stark is bound by the Accords meaning the UN will know about Thanos before he arrives. So do we have to just suspend disbelief the the world's militaries would just shrug and not even try to mobilize some troops and weapons to help in Wakanda? I find that hard to accept even in the MCU universe.

It doesn't really matter that the world's militaries aren't on the same technological level as Wakanda and Thanos's army. The US military wouldn't just stand by and do nothing at all no matter how I'll equipped it is. Same for NATO.
 
I would not want the U.S. military anywhere near my country if I were Wakanda. Having a small team like the Avengers in (some of whom T'Challa already knows and trusts) is more reasonable.
 
Do we know why the world's militaries aren't fighting in Wakanda alongside the Avengers and wakandians? It made sense in Avengers 1 because the National Guard wasn't called until the attack was under way and the Security Council decided to nuke New York instead of sending the military. But the Avengers know Thanos is coming ahead of time, and Stark is bound by the Accords meaning the UN will know about Thanos before he arrives. So do we have to just suspend disbelief the the world's militaries would just shrug and not even try to mobilize some troops and weapons to help in Wakanda? I find that hard to accept even in the MCU universe.

It doesn't really matter that the world's militaries aren't on the same technological level as Wakanda and Thanos's army. The US military wouldn't just stand by and do nothing at all no matter how I'll equipped it is. Same for NATO.
Wakanda probably does not trust them so they won't be allowed in. They likely won't do much in the fight anyways.

Even though Tony signed the accords I didn't get the feeling he would follow them. He thought it would help the team but it fractured them and the military has a different motive than Stark. He left to find Cap without telling Ross in CW and the last scene he hung up/ignored on Ross.
 
Do we know why the world's militaries aren't fighting in Wakanda alongside the Avengers and wakandians? It made sense in Avengers 1 because the National Guard wasn't called until the attack was under way and the Security Council decided to nuke New York instead of sending the military. But the Avengers know Thanos is coming ahead of time, and Stark is bound by the Accords meaning the UN will know about Thanos before he arrives. So do we have to just suspend disbelief the the world's militaries would just shrug and not even try to mobilize some troops and weapons to help in Wakanda? I find that hard to accept even in the MCU universe.

It doesn't really matter that the world's militaries aren't on the same technological level as Wakanda and Thanos's army. The US military wouldn't just stand by and do nothing at all no matter how I'll equipped it is. Same for NATO.

I don't remember, was this shot in the actual movie? This is from the first trailer. But I don't remember the military showing up. Maybe it's been a while.

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I don't remember, was this shot in the actual movie? This is from the first trailer. But I don't remember the military showing up. Maybe it's been a while.

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Not sure about that specific shot but the military do show up, albeit for about a three second shot or two and then I'm pretty sure they aren't seen again.
 
Well I'm not too mad. Tbh, I can see they're setting up Peter as the awkward fanboy and are probably gonna have him transfer to more of the motor mouth Spidey we know post his high school phase.
He's already the motor mouth Spidey.
 
Do we know why the world's militaries aren't fighting in Wakanda alongside the Avengers and wakandians? It made sense in Avengers 1 because the National Guard wasn't called until the attack was under way and the Security Council decided to nuke New York instead of sending the military. But the Avengers know Thanos is coming ahead of time, and Stark is bound by the Accords meaning the UN will know about Thanos before he arrives. So do we have to just suspend disbelief the the world's militaries would just shrug and not even try to mobilize some troops and weapons to help in Wakanda? I find that hard to accept even in the MCU universe.

It doesn't really matter that the world's militaries aren't on the same technological level as Wakanda and Thanos's army. The US military wouldn't just stand by and do nothing at all no matter how I'll equipped it is. Same for NATO.

I trust this will be addressed to your satisfaction within the film
 
Wakanda probably does not trust them so they won't be allowed in. They likely won't do much in the fight anyways.

Even though Tony signed the accords I didn't get the feeling he would follow them. He thought it would help the team but it fractured them and the military has a different motive than Stark. He left to find Cap without telling Ross in CW and the last scene he hung up/ignored on Ross.

Wakanda wouldn't be able to unilaterally make that decision. This is an invasion that will effect the entire human species regardless of region or country. The world's militaries wouldn't just say, "Well, Wakanda said no so let's just sit on our hands and do nothing." Im fairly certain at the very least Russia or the US would target the region with a bunch of nukes and would mobilize fighter jets around Wakanda if Wakanda tried to stop foreign militaries from sending their own troops.

And Wakanda is a part of the multicountry Accords which is a huge treaty dealing with the defense of the world and not just when and if superheroes can go to a country and fight. Wakanda stopping foreign militaries from fighting would be like Germany telling other NATO countries that they can't fight in Germany during a third world war. Itd be absurd.

As for what the world's militaries could do, well, missiles and A-10s and F22s and other heavy ordinances should tear through those outsider beasts effectively. Even if it was hopeless militaries would still try to fight because militaries don't just fight when victory is certain. They wouldn't just take Wakanda's word on it that the rest of the world's militaries are completely useless and unequipped for this fight.
 
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I would like at least a nod to what the world militaries are planning/thinking.
 
What they usually do in most comic book stories. **** themselves and watch.
 
As advanced as Wakanda is, its ability to defend itself even from nuclear attack shouldn't be questioned. The US and Russia have missile defense programs in the real world, and one assumes that Wakanda's (fictional) capabilities would be far greater.

The US military isn't even capable of dealing with alien invaders in Manhattan, which has happened twice. It's pretty clear that authorities in the UK and perhaps other countries won't be able to repulse the Black Order, either. World militaries aren't mobile enough to get troops, weapons and supplies to East Africa within hours to take part in the battle there. It's obvious that they wouldn't be much help, anyway.

Beyond all of that, it's not clear at this point that anyone other than the Avengers themselves will even know what is going on. They go to Wakanda because of its ability to defend against Thanos' forces, but they may not even inform world leaders about their whereabouts, or even what the battle is about. The Accords give the Avengers a very good reason why they wouldn't want to involve the UN or other military forces of their actions. No one will be trying to nuke Wakanda or join the fight if they don't have a clue about what's happening.
 
What they usually do in most comic book stories. **** themselves and watch.
Most likely this they will be hiding in bunkers letting the heroes do things.

I am not going to try to inject too much real life thinking into the movie. The military outside of Ross are non factors in this. Hammer tech tried to have some military influence.

The president guy in the Iron Man movies seemed clueless in everything.
 
There is evidence that
William Hurt does make an appearance
, so it's safe to assume that the accords/national security responses are referenced, at least minimally.
 
I agree, it will be in the back of my mind unless they come up with an explanation, like an extraterrestrial emp-type thing that would take out traditional tech or something.
 
There is evidence that
William Hurt does make an appearance
, so it's safe to assume that the accords/national security responses are referenced, at least minimally.

That sounds like it would be enough for me.
 
what's with more and more of the posters showing some of the Avengers with actual firing guns? I can understand a spear or a blaster firing off, but actual guns? Looking at you Falcon and Bucky.

Also, what's with the same photo-shopped image of Don Cheadle. Can someone fix that?

I guess it's good we at least see his face. I recall on several posters he kept his mask on.
 
Not only will the US military not protect Wakanda, they would be jealous they didn't get to invade Wakanda first, or as well as Thanos.
 
what's with more and more of the posters showing some of the Avengers with actual firing guns? I can understand a spear or a blaster firing off, but actual guns? Looking at you Falcon and Bucky.

Also, what's with the same photo-shopped image of Don Cheadle. Can someone fix that?

I guess it's good we at least see his face. I recall on several posters he kept his mask on.

If you take away Bucky's gun, he's basically just some dude. :funny:
 
If you take away Bucky's gun, he's basically just some dude. :funny:
He has enhanced strength he needs to tap into the Winter Soldier killer instinct without becoming brainwashed.
 
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