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[captainrogers]

Perhaps Either tony or clint could jokingly refer to the creature as Fing Fang Foom

 

[SamuraiSon6]

If we believe all the "inside reports" to be true that the mocap guys are not skulls or any other specific marvel race and that they are a new enemy created to achieve a purpose similar to those races it would probably be safe to assume at the moment that the reptilian creature with horns is actually just a reptilian creature with horns( who happens to visually and functionally seem the same as fin fang foom or jorumangd-sp?). Also if it was listed as the Leviathan on set he probably is called that since it might not be an existing marvel creature

 

[cherokeesam]

Lol you said Kranken.

It's forgivable....

After all, half the people on these boards don't know how to say/spell "Fin Fang Foom" (so just imagine what kinda trouble the GA would have with it)

 

[misjuevos]

I'm still thinking it is just a conjured creature by Loki. It could resemble something we recognize but to the GA would just be a huge monster.

 

[steintym]

I agree, doesn't seem like the creature would be referred to as anything we're familiar with in the comics.

 

[Vartha]

Well they DID say leviathan, so Jormund would more be more fitting to THAT discription.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

If we believe all the "inside reports" to be true that the mocap guys are not skulls or any other specific marvel race and that they are a new enemy created to achieve a purpose similar to those races it would probably be safe to assume at the moment that the reptilian creature with horns is actually just a reptilian creature with horns( who happens to visually and functionally seem the same as fin fang foom or jorumangd-sp?). Also if it was listed as the Leviathan on set he probably is called that since it might not be an existing marvel creature

Except for the fact that "the fans would be pleased."

 

[Vartha]

It's forgivable....

After all, half the people on these boards don't know how to say/spell "Fin Fang Foom" (so just imagine what kinda trouble the GA would have with it)

hehehe I could never remember the order the words went but "Foom" being at the end. (I was subscribed to F.O.O.M.) LOL

 

[LokiDionysos]

Yeah it seems like they'll avoid giving it much characterization. I'm fully expecting it to be referred to simply as "the Leviathan", or maybe Loki will call it the Midgard serpent once or twice when he summons it since they're in Midgard at the time. First and foremost I think it's the Jormungand, but there's a definite potential it'll double as Fin Fang Foom for movie purposes, or at least be connected to him in some way. If only to get some mystical powers to Mandarin in Iron Man 3 somehow.

I think Marvel's got it all planned out many steps ahead, and that's y we won't see it referred to as either creature yet. I have a theory that the early reports about a sea creature were semi-correct because it does in fact get summoned from beneath the earth's ocean in the Midgard realm, and can surface, submerge again if it wants, or fly through the sky like a giant winged sea serpent. Think of the image of the Chinese new year's dragons(giving it Jormunganr's look), only slightly shorter with a bigger midsection, wings that fold in and metallic armor almost like the Fin Fang Foom easter egg. It might do something really subtle like shapeshift its skin to the metal armor giving us over-analyzers the clue that its intended to be FFF as well. The avengers could still call it whatever they've come to call it. I'm still thinking Marvel will find a way to connect this giant reptilian horned creature to the Mandarin somehow.

If they do go that route I'm thinking no one knows it's still alive and working with the Mandarin at first. Maybe it needs to restore its energy and temporarily hands over some of its power to the Mandarin and the ten rings.
Iron Man will be all like "where the hell did this guy learn to shoot fireballs from?" And he'll still think he can handle Mandarin and Ghost without the Avenger's help. Might need to call in War Machine to deal with Foom though.

That's why I think they're merging the characters and simply calling it Leviathan. They almost did something similar with Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo so I think they'll alter some things for the movies. The long body and thrashing tail would be more like Jormungandr, but it'll fly around with it's upper body like how Fin Fang Foom would, flapping and maneuvering with its wings. To many people it probably will be just a giant monster they face. At first. But I believe Marvel will still have a little more in store for us.

 

[Tony Stark]

I think it is Jormund, and here's why. At the beginning of Cap, Schmidt is looking at the mural of the World Tree. He looks down at the roots and there is the head of a serpent like creature that he presses the eye and thus gets the Tesseract. It has to be a representation of the midgard serpent.

It all fits with the mythology. The Tesseract is connected with the serpent somehow, in North mythology Jormund is Loki's son, so there's a connection to Loki and of course the battle with Thor and the Ragnarok.

The Fin Fang Foom thing is just speculation of CBM, it makes much more sense that it's Jormund.

 

[samsnee]

I remember Kevin Feige saying he wanted a Transformers 3 feel, so I can definitely see the leviathan just being a mindless destroyer like Soundwave's pet that tore the building in half. Sounds like they are just going for the wow factor, which if is the case, I'd rather them not use a "name" villain like Foom.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think the Midgard Serpeant would make more sense.

 

[C. Lee]

hehehe I could never remember the order the words went but "Foom" being at the end. (I was subscribed to F.O.O.M.) LOL

I was too....I still have some of the old material stored somewhere...t:

 

[HUMANIMAL]

the leviathan, it's here!!!!!!

Spoiler

someone knows some updates about the rumor from jeffrey wright being on the set?
will there be a cameo from namor as well?

 

[Vartha]

I was too....I still have some of the old material stored somewhere...t:

I have one somewhere, I THINK it's the Kirby's back issue

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Perhaps Either tony or clint could jokingly refer to the creature as Fing Fang Foom

Lol, I could see that.

 

[steintym]

hehehe I could never remember the order the words went but "Foom" being at the end. (I was subscribed to F.O.O.M.) LOL

I always want to say (and type) Fing Fang Foom.

 

[Vartha]

I always want to say (and type) Fing Fang Foom.

I used to say "fing" too Stien, must be a chicago area thing lol

 

[LokiDionysos]

In all likelihood it's the Midgard Serpent. CBM just gets worked up too fast. It's most fitting and would be easy to work in, and I think the Cap stuff shows they've planned it that way. I'm just thinking ahead and looking at the big picture. They'll probably even call it the Midgard serpent as well as Leviathan. However I wouldn't discount that it could potentially become involved with the Mandarin plot in some way. With Iron Man 3 gearing up I can't help but think they've got something up their sleeve to give us a really faithful and awesome Mandarin story that involves a shape-shifting dragon. And because he's a damn shapeshifter I think something funny could be going on here after the serpent's defeated in Avengers.

If they've got a reveal planned where it's shown to be barely alive, and suddenly starts to speak to someone telepathically(getting around how funny it would be to see the mouth move) that would show us that this is more than the mindless creature we thought we watched the Avengers take down. It retreats to a remote cave system where it's found by that ten rings guy from the first Iron Man. In the post-credits scene or the beginning of Iron Man 3.

If they wanna acquaint Mandarin with an alien dragon then this could be how it all starts since everything is interconnected in this movie universe.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I'm not sure if 'giant, shape shifting dragon' will necessarily fit the tone of 'Industrial espionage spy movie' that Shane Black has said is the plan for Iron Man 3.

 

[Raiden]

I think the Midgard Serpeant would make more sense.

I agree, and I think it can also be connected to Thor 2 (which arrives in 2013) and the events leading up to Ragnorok. If it's just a nameless serpent, it will be a dead end and lead to nowhere. But if it's the Midgard Serpent, it will open up much more storylines in the future.

 

[Neo_3]

But wouldn't the Midgard Serpent be tied more into the Thor Universe. I think The Avengers films can have villains from Hulk, CAP, IM and Thor Universes, but the individual movies should stick with there villains.

 

[Vartha]

to be honest some people over there CBM do get SOME info right. I do trust Marvel Freshman over others there

 

[Neo_3]

But I hope if it is the Midgard Serpent the only ones that can take him are Thor or The Hulk. I hope Hawkeye doesn't use a poisoned arrow to take him down. Hawkeye, Widow and CAP should work on the army, IM, Hulk and Thor should take Loki and this creature.

 

[Vartha]

I agree, and I think it can also be connected to Thor 2 (which arrives in 2013) and the events leading up to Ragnorok. If it's just a nameless serpent, it will be a dead end and lead to nowhere. But if it's the Midgard Serpent, it will open up much more storylines in the future.

let's not forget the Midgard Serpent is Loki's kid.