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[Sharkboy]

I can't remember a single score from any of the individual avengers' movies. Except the main tune from the 2003 Hulk. I'm not expecting a memorable theme for the avengers either, I just don't think that it's one of their priorities tbh.

 

[kedrell]

Well, honestly, I think it coulda been miles better, specifically given the canvas he had to work on.

When people say it had an Indy or Star Wars trilogy vibe, I ask myself "Have they ever heard John Williams???"

Silvestri's music always brings one word to mind for me: generic.

There's no depth to his composing. Hell, there are better composers than Silvestri out there that do strictly trailer work instead of full-length features.

Out of all the MCU films, Thor & TIH had the best scores & still didn't leave much of an impact on me.

John Powell I think has been the best in the genre since it resurfaced through X-Men in 2000 (prior to that, Elfman takes the cake).

The score for X3 was simply marvelous. Larger than life, epic & dazzling. But that's John Powell for ya', and that's who Marvel Studios shoulda gone after for The Avengers.

Then again, he's gotten pretty pricey now coming off the Oscar nod.

Naturally, I love what Zimmer's done for the Nolan Batman films, but I wouldn't want him for Avengers. I love the man's music though.

Aside from Powell (which was ideal), I woulda gone after Eric Serra or Marc Streitenfeld.

With Silvestri, I'm expecting yet another forgettable score with truck-loads of generic themes.

Well to each his own, but with the exception of a couple of bits(opening 20 seconds from X2 & music that plays while Magneto lifts the sub in XM:FC) I've never found anything remotely memorable in any of the X-Men film scores. They're the definition of forgettable to me. Pretty much the same thing goes for Zimmer's Batman scores. They all just run together and resemble white noise in the backround as far as I'm concerned.

 

[kedrell]

As much as I enjoy and appreciate both scores. I can't wait when the day comes when people stop saying that.

I don't think those two will ever get downgraded if that's what you're hoping for. They've stood the test of time. I DO however hope some can come out that are at that level but I'd rather have a good movie with a score that might be slightly less iconic(like CA:TFA) than a bad movie that happens to have a really good score(my opinion of Batman'89). To me the score isn't the end all-be all of a film.

 

[Mjölnir]

This is true, however, his scores for The Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, Batman Begins and a few tracks from The Dark Knight have been awe-inspiring.

And supposedly, his TDKR score will be his greatest masterpiece (ex. The chant/theme for Bane is f**king epic, thus far).

I have to admit that the only recent scores of his that I can remember off the top of my head are the Pirates movies. As far as I can remember the Batman scores worked well but I don't remember any of the themes by heart. I don't remember much of The Da Vinci Code at all, and I read the book before I saw Angels & Demons and since they have removed most of the aspects that made the story good in my view I had trouble getting past that annoyance to enjoy anything.

But he's still competent and I'm sure the TDKR score will be fine.

 

[kedrell]

Any appreciation I have for the Cap score is immediately diluted when I listen to 'The Mummy Returns' and am reminded about how incredible Silvestri can be. And it's not like TMR was this amazing film which would have spurred Silvestri to write such an epic score. I think he's seriously lost his way in recent years.

I just went and checked out TMR ost on youtube. I don't get it. It sounds like a lot of music with middle eastern intrumental stuff thrown in but hardly anything exceptional as far as I could tell.

I think CA:TFA's score is way better.

 

[ddddeeee]

'My First Bus Ride' alone destroys the Cap score IMO.

 

[Shadowlord X]

As a fan of X-MEN and X2 I can say that the scores aren't anything memorable. However a mediocre score cannot bring down a movie that I like in any way. In contrast a great score can truly enhance such a film. Such is the case for me with CA:TFA. I truly feel that the score for CA:TFA is really great! The theme at the opening credits sequence is particularly memorable and been known to jump to that scene on the Blu-ray just to hear it. IMHO the score for CA:TFA is the best for a superhero movie since the original Superman and Batman; it's just a tad below them for me.

 

[Godzilla2000]

So moaning about the scores for other movies is what we do when deprived of Avengers info? ?

 

[shigsy2003]

I don't think Zimmer has gotten lazy....I think he found a good thing in Gladiator, perfected it in The Da Vinci Code and now likes to use it a lot.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I have to admit that the only recent scores of his that I can remember off the top of my head are the Pirates movies. As far as I can remember the Batman scores worked well but I don't remember any of the themes by heart. I don't remember much of The Da Vinci Code at all, and I read the book before I saw Angels & Demons and since they have removed most of the aspects that made the story good in my view I had trouble getting past that annoyance to enjoy anything.

But he's still competent and I'm sure the TDKR score will be fine.

Oh man, you have to go back and review The Da Vinci Code's and Angels & Demons' soundtracks. They've been stellar.

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[R_Hythlodeus]

Anything new on your end?
Did you ever hear back from your source?

Yes. I got quite a few things that might be real (and huge) news, but I still have to verify them. The last thing I want is to look like a complete idiot.

 

[kedrell]

'My First Bus Ride' alone destroys the Cap score IMO.

Hmm, I just went and checked it out. No descernable melody I could tell. It's just real busy, like it's trying to throw everything at the listener in hopes of having something stick. I prefer melodies that stick with me.

The Cap & Thor end credits music both accomplish this wonderfully:

 

[TheVileOne]

Thing is, the official confirmation as Silvestri as composer is probably the biggest news we've gotten in the last couple of weeks regarding the movie.

 

[kedrell]

Not to mention it's just comforting how far in advance we've gotten this confirmation compared to all the other MCU films.

 

[Mjölnir]

Oh man, you have to go back and review The Da Vinci Code's and Angels & Demons' soundtracks. They've been stellar.

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Those were pretty good and now that I hear it I do remember the Da Vinci Code track, which is really fitting to the scene. Zimmer is good but at times gets a bit repetitive imo. Still I guess it's not too bad when what's repeated is good.

 

[TheDragonator]

To me, Cap's score was perfect, and the feel of it was solidified by one thing:

It sounded like something you'd hear in a Fourth of July Fireworks show.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

As of right now, my favorite comic book film score is Danny Elfman's score for the Spider-Man films. I have many favorites, but that's my #1.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Well to each his own, but with the exception of a couple of bits (opening 20 seconds from X2 & music that plays while Magneto lifts the sub in XM:FC) I've never found anything remotely memorable in any of the X-Men film scores. They're the definition of forgettable to me. Pretty much the same thing goes for Zimmer's Batman scores. They all just run together and resemble white noise in the backround as far as I'm concerned.

No offense, but are you serious? Zimmer's Batman scores sound like "white noise in the background" to you? Really? And have you even heard John Powell's score to X-Men: The Last Stand? Youtube "Dark Phoenix". That track alone defeats anything composed for any of the MCU films. I know people who hate X3, but still can't deny how glorious & astounding the film's score is (as are Powell's other works). John Ottman & Michael Kamen's works on the first two X-Men films were forgettable. Powell just blew it outta the water.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

As of right now, my favorite comic book film score is Danny Elfman's score for the Spider-Man films. I have many favorites, but that's my #1.

Definitely! It really is a great score. I haven't been blown away by a score for a CBM since SM2. The Last Stand's music was awesome as well.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

This is just an example of one of the amazing tracks from S-M2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkEWzpJX-Q

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Carlo Siliotto did a fantastic job on The Punisher's music. I think he could've done Cap justice, not that I don't like what Silvestri's done.
It really kicks in at 1:35, has a strong Cap vibe in my opinion.
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[Spider-ManHero12]

I also love the X-Men score by Michael Kamen as well as X2's by John Ottman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S5bH4ona2s

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I hated the movies, but the Fantastic Four movie scores were pretty good too. Definitely memorable , I think. Especially the Silver Surfer's theme.

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[kedrell]

No offense, but are you serious? Zimmer's Batman scores sound like "white noise in the background" to you? Really?

Pretty much, yeah. Zimmer's stuff all sounds the same & tends to run together till it's just a big blur of sound. There's just not enough that's distinctive there.

And have you even heard John Powell's score to X-Men: The Last Stand? Youtube "Dark Phoenix". That track alone defeats anything composed for any of the MCU films. I know people who hate X3, but still can't deny how glorious & astounding the film's score is (as are Powell's other works). John Ottman & Michael Kamen's works on the first two X-Men films were forgettable. Powell just blew it outta the water.

Yes, I've listened to X3's soundtrack. At least X2 & XM:FC had SOME small parts that were memorable. X3 is much like what I said above about TMR's score. It just feels like Powell's throwing a whole lotta crap at the wall and hoping something sticks. It's just too damn busy because of that. No significant melody. I looked up his filmography and I gotta say that of the movies of his I have seen only the Bourne movies had anything memorable in the soundtrack for me.....and that was Moby's song which I don't think you can give Powell credit for. Granted, I've only seen maybe 30-40% of the movies he's worked on but I'd stack every one of the MCU scores up against ANYTHING I've heard from the guy.

 

[kedrell]

Definitely! It really is a great score. I haven't been blown away by a score for a CBM since SM2. The Last Stand's music was awesome as well.

I've always found Elfman's Spidey scores to be rather ho-hum, to tell the truth. They occassionally pull out a significant melody but frankly the whole thing seemed too slap-dash & bubblegum for my taste. It's telling that I remember the added outside band's songs from those films more than the score(and I don't even like Nickleback, Dashboard Confessional or Train).