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[Spider-Fan]

I remember going back and forth with Ace on Whedon. Of course, we have so much more to go on now, but I am glad to have been proven right at this point

 

[Rock Sexton]

My point is I feel like if you want everyone has access to the knowledge of who Steve Rogers is. Maybe not specifics but some general info. Also yeah Banner is a scientist working in the same general field. I dont think its a stretch to think that he would of researched it

Banner was strictly a gamma specialist. The army isn't going to bring an outsider in and give him access to all the top secret stuff they've done. They'd want him to be working on what they hired him for. Why is it you think they kept the original experiment top secret for only those who needed to know? It's entirely compartmentalized.

 

[captainrogers]

Either way. I'm sure Banner gets Briefed or spun up on who this "Steve Rogers" person is before shaking hands with him on what I'm assuming is the Hellicarrier.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Either way. I'm sure Banner gets Briefed or spun up on who this "Steve Rogers" person is before shaking hands with him on what I'm assuming is the Hellicarrier.

Yeah, I'm guessing that as well .... perhaps as a way of wow'ing him as to the kind of company he's about to find himself in. After all, they're trying to get Banner to cooperate and aid their initiative, gotta sell him with sizzle LOL.

 

[EternalMaster]

Hahaha, Steve "Sizzle" Rogers. Good times.

 

[craigdbfan]

I remember hearing about a subplot with Banner being amazed with Rogers because he views him as a solution to get rid of Hulk. Seeing as he used a variation of the super soldier serum that went terribly wrong maybe by testing Rogers blood he might get closer to finally ridding himself of the Hulk.

Don't know if this was just postulating from someone or something that might actually be touched upon during the movie.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Now I would love to see the Wrecking Crew in a movie, but I wonder if they would be percieved as too cheesy or 'comicbooky' by todays audience.

I don't see them supporting their own movie, but if they're a bigger villains lackeys I can see them working.

 

[jaqua99]

Just because he didnt know he was working on something similar doesnt mean he wasnt aware that the program existed. The conversation between Ross and Blonsky implies that at the very least the existence of the program is kind of common knowledge. "You are aware that back in WW2 the military experimented....." And "Yeah Super Soldier" He talks to him like he should already kind of know about it.

Exactly. He said banner didnt whow what he was working on, not he didn't know what it was.

 

[jonathancrane]

I remember hearing about a subplot with Banner being amazed with Rogers because he views him as a solution to get rid of Hulk. Seeing as he used a variation of the super soldier serum that went terribly wrong maybe by testing Rogers blood he might get closer to finally ridding himself of the Hulk.

Ipod is acting up and will not alliw me to edit what I need...grr
That was the subplot in Ultimate Avengers...


It has precedent: it was the plot of Ultimate Avengers...
Don't know if this was just postulating from someone or something that might actually be touched upon during the movie.[/QUOTE]

 

[jaqua99]

Either way. I'm sure Banner gets Briefed or spun up on who this "Steve Rogers" person is before shaking hands with him on what I'm assuming is the Hellicarrier.

Wait, I was assuming Banner would know who Steve Rogers is. Just like we all know who, say, George Washington is. I thought Cap was an American hero, and that Steve Rogers was a house hold name?

 

[quara33]

I would assume that Banner, if he didn't know the origins of the serum before getting Hulkified, certainly did some research afterwards that would have led to finding out at least a little about Steve Rogers/Captain America.

What would interest me is Steve's reaction--at some level I'd imagine he'd be horrified that the serum Erskine developed had resulted in such dire effects for Banner--that the program Erskine started had become so twisted. I'd also imagine that Steve is more appreciative of Banner's innate 'goodness'--he's seen what an imperfect formula can do, so Banner's attempts to control Hulk and undo the formula would be rather noble in Steve's eyes.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Wait, I was assuming Banner would know who Steve Rogers is. Just like we all know who, say, George Washington is. I thought Cap was an American hero, and that Steve Rogers was a house hold name?

I think he's more of an icon than a hero to the general public. Very few people ever witnessed the battles he fought in, all they have to go by is the USO shows and comics.

 

[jaqua99]

I think he's more of an icon than a hero to the general public. Very few people ever witnessed the battles he fought in, all they have to go by is the USO shows and comics.

I meant in the MU, I thought he was kind of a house hold name, and that a lot of heroes looked up to captain rogers

 

[Capt.America518]

every marvel hero knows of captain america as an icon and hero.... he saved the world on multiple occasions during world war 2... he was the first super hero and worked along side jack fury and howard stark

 

[captainrogers]

every marvel hero knows of captain america as an icon and hero.... he saved the world on multiple occasions during world war 2... he was the first super hero and worked along side jack fury and howard stark

That's the Earth's Mightiest Heroes version of the character.
Movie Steve MIGHT be universally known as a WW2 icon. But there is no indication he ever met or worked with Nick (or any) Fury, prior to being defrosted.
Comic Steve on the other hand worked with Nick quite a bit in WW2.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

The comics universe and movie universe are different. Probably only a select few people knew of Captain America as an actual soldier, like people in the military and politicians. The general public probably only knew him as the propaganda figure he was in the USO shows and comic books.

 

[jaqua99]

every marvel hero knows of captain america as an icon and hero.... he saved the world on multiple occasions during world war 2... he was the first super hero and worked along side jack fury and howard stark

Exactly, which is why I find it a little difficult to believe that Banner didn't know who Rogers is, even in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Ross said Banner didn't know what he was working on, he didn't say anything about Banner not knowing about the super soldier project, Ross' version of it, or Capt. Rogers for that matter.

 

[jaqua99]

The comics universe and movie universe are different. Probably only a select few people knew of Captain America as an actual soldier, like people in the military and politicians. The general public probably only knew him as the propaganda figure he was in the USO shows and comic books.

True, but we don't know how known Cap is, even in the film universe, because we haven't seen enough of him yet, and there hasn't been anything said about banner not knowing who cap is, so we will have to see.

 

[WildcatNC]

Wait, I was assuming Banner would know who Steve Rogers is. Just like we all know who, say, George Washington is. I thought Cap was an American hero, and that Steve Rogers was a house hold name?

I meant in the MU, I thought he was kind of a house hold name, and that a lot of heroes looked up to captain rogers

I agree with you. All these guys are gonna know who Cap is, except Thor. Banner may have run around with a painted garbage can lid when he was little.


As a personal story, when I was in grade school my friend and I would go into the coat room/supply closet and crush up colored chalk, mix it with water in test tubes and make Super Soldier Serum.

Good times, good times.....

 

[jaqua99]

I agree with you. All these guys are gonna know who Cap is, except Thor. Banner may have run around with a painted garbage can lid when he was little.


As a personal story, when I was in grade school my friend and I would go into the coat room/supply closet and crush up colored chalk, mix it with water in test tubes and make Super Soldier Serum.

Good times, good times.....

Hahah thats too funny lmao

 

[jaqua99]

So guys, this hasn't been talked about much, with Ferrigno taking part in basically every Hulk movie, do you think he can pull of the Hulk speaking voice well?? I personally love his screams in TIH

 

[Rock Sexton]

every marvel hero knows of captain america as an icon and hero.... he saved the world on multiple occasions during world war 2... he was the first super hero and worked along side jack fury and howard stark

That's in the comics.

This is the movie-verse.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Plus, even if they know who Cap is, they may not know how he became Captain America.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I would assume that Banner, if he didn't know the origins of the serum before getting Hulkified, certainly did some research afterwards that would have led to finding out at least a little about Steve Rogers/Captain America.

Where would he go to "research"? You really think the fact that a soldier by the name of Steve Rogers was injected with a top secret serum would be declassified? Again logic please.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I remember hearing about a subplot with Banner being amazed with Rogers because he views him as a solution to get rid of Hulk. Seeing as he used a variation of the super soldier serum that went terribly wrong maybe by testing Rogers blood he might get closer to finally ridding himself of the Hulk.

Don't know if this was just postulating from someone or something that might actually be touched upon during the movie.

Whoever postulated that literally makes no sense.