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[Quasimod0]

Faceplate looks gold to me. Its the lighting

 

[craigdbfan]

But none of the red??

More likely that the FX aren't finished there.

Could be but there is actually damage in the red. Check out his shoulder in both pictures.

 

[Herolee10]

So far, we've seen Loki's army having:

1. Advanced Weaponry
2. Foot Soldiers
3. Aerial Vehicles
4. Large Monsters/Creatures


I wonder if we'll see his army also having large Spaceships as well (the kind that you'd imagine seeing in Star Wars or Star Trek).

 

[BigThor]

I remember RIM saying that. And it's fine by me.

An Avengers movie where Iron Man, Captain America and Thor are the three leads is not an Avengers movie we should be complaining about

So RIM said Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor are the three leads in this film?

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

i just think its a different suit..there's really no hint of gold on the faceplate. Battle couldnt have scratched the gold completely off

But picture 2 and 3 are the same scene. Why would he wear two different suits in one scene?

 

[Quasimod0]

So far, we've seen Loki's army having:

1. Advanced Weaponry
2. Foot Soldiers
3. Aerial Vehicles
4. Large Monsters/Creatures


I wonder if we'll see his army also having large Spaceships as well (the kind that you'd imagine seeing in Star Wars or Star Trek).

Hope so. Lke giant carrier ships

 

[BigThor]

Believe it or not, I've heard those types of coments a lot.
I just tell them to wait 'till they see the movie.
Or just compare Thor to Superman in terms of power. ('cause I figure that's the best and SIMPLEST comparison to a non comics aficionado)
Then I get the "Oh..."

Yeah that's why I said I would've like for them to show Thor hitting IM back so it could look like an actual "fight" to the GA and not someone getting beat up.

 

[Iceman]

On that topic from a couple of pages ago, I think any references to important characters from the solo films they can get in naturally with zero derailment to this film is a positive that will lend a richness to the universe and the background of the Avengers. They don't necessarily have to appear in the flesh (although I would much prefer it) but it's an unnecessary miss if any of Jane, Peggy, Betty or Pepper are completely ignored. I will also be looking out for mentions of Odin (plus any of Thor's others Asgardian buddies as relevant) Rhodey/WM, Dr Pym & Jan & Black Panther. t:

 

[T"Challa]

But picture 2 and 3 are the same scene. Why would he wear two different suits in one scene?

I'm not so sure, remember that interview with Joss some months ago when he described that very scene where Hulk catches IM, he said Cap & Thor had to rip off his facemask to prevent him from suffocating or something along those lines. Obviously whatever hit Stark compromised the suit and i'm not sure it remains functional after that. he might have had to get another one somehow

 

[BigThor]

I don't see why people would have a problem with Thor being the one the finally defeat Loki and close his portal, the guy is going to get less screen time than Iron Man and Cap plus Loki is HIS brother after all.

He has to do something important to make up for him showing up 30-40 minutes into the film, I don't think that would make the film seem like "Thor 2" at all.

 

[darthmagic]

I don't see why people would have a problem with Thor being the one the finally defeat Loki and close his portal, the guy is going to get less screen time than Iron Man and Cap plus Loki is HIS brother after all.

He has to do something important to make up for him showing up 30-40 minutes into the film, I don't think that would make the film seem like "Thor 2" at all.

Loki said that there was a point where he was 'looking up' at the Avengers assembled. I hope that they all have to take him down. A combined effort as in Earth's mightiest Heroes season finale.

 

[Dark Raven]

But picture 2 and 3 are the same scene. Why would he wear two different suits in one scene?

And when would he have had time to change in the midst of a battle?

 

[BigThor]

Loki said that there was a point where he was 'looking up' at the Avengers assembled. I hope that they all have to take him down. A combined effort as in Earth's mightiest Heroes season finale.

Just because he's looking up at The Avengers doesn't mean that's he's been defeated by the whole team, it also doesn't mean he's even been defeated just yet.

Loki had the Odin Force in the A:EMH finale, he doesn't have it here and it doesn't seem like his new staff makes him all that powerful.

 

[darthmagic]

Just because he's looking up at The Avengers doesn't mean that's he's been defeated by the whole team, it also doesn't mean he's even been defeated just yet.

Loki had the Odin Force in the A:EMH finale, he doesn't have it here and it doesn't seem like his new staff makes him all that powerful.

I could see the Cosmic cube giving him that kind of power.As i said, i would LOVE for it to be a group effort taking him down. We can leave the solo battle between Thor and Loki for Thor 2.

 

[BigThor]

I could see the Cosmic cube giving him that kind of power.As i said, i would LOVE for it to be a group effort taking him down. We can leave the solo battle between Thor and Loki for Thor 2.

I just don't see it, if the cosmic cube staff is more powerful than Odin's staff then why doesn't Odin use the cosmic cube to power his staff?

Thor shouldn't fight Loki in THOR II, fighting Loki in two previous films is enough and Thor's rogues gallery is way too impressive for him to keep fighting Loki.

 

[Rock Sexton]

All I want is a movie that doesn't feel like IRON MAN 2.5.

I want the other Avengers to have actual story arcs. I don't want the presence of them to be reduced to plot devices.

Examples of things they should do to prevent the above from happening:

-A scene with Steve walking through his old neighborhood, shocked at how much its changed (Puerto Rico).

-A scene with Thor visiting Jane, even if all we see is her door being opened by an unseen Portman.

-A scene with Banner looking at a photo of Betty as was done in TIH & picking up the phone to call her only to hang up once she picks up.

I really don't care if Tony has any character development in the film because he really doesn't need any.

Hulk, Cap & Thor need a continuation of their respective storylines.

Nobody really gives a rats ass what you want out of this movie.

Guys, seriously give it a rest for a day. How much more can we possibly analyze this movie???

 

[Xeno]

I just don't see it, if the cosmic cube staff is more powerful than Odin's staff then why doesn't Odin use the cosmic cube to power his staff?

Thor shouldn't fight Loki in THOR II, fighting Loki in two previous films is enough and Thor's rogues gallery is way too impressive for him to keep fighting Loki.

For one thing, Odin hasn't had the Cube in his possession for over a thousand years. It first sat in that tomb in Tønsberg, Norway from 965 AD until the Red Skull found it. After that, SHIELD took possession of it. Ever since I first saw CA:TFA, I've wondered why Odin didn't recover the Cube because it is one of the most powerful artifacts in the Marvel Universe. Hopefully the movie will explain Odin's disinterest.


One possible reason could be that the Cube is so immensely powerful that Odin preferred to leave it in an obscure Midgardian town, where few knew of its existence. So long as humanity had only primitive technology, the Cube would have been relatively safe from exploitation. Once technology advanced, however, the danger would become greater. A thousand years isn't long for an Asgardian, so perhaps Odin took his eye off Midgard and wasn't aware of the potential harm that could come from leaving the Cube here.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I remember RIM saying that. And it's fine by me.

An Avengers movie where Iron Man, Captain America and Thor are the three leads is not an Avengers movie we should be complaining about

It is. It really is. An Avengers film, or any group superhero film should not put its focus on just few or just a singular character. Every character/member of the main team should be a lead. Otherwise, what's the point of having them in the movie? If they aren't going to play as big/equal part as the other heroes, than don't bother having them in the film. A character shouldn't be in a film if they are just there for fanboys who know **** about comics to get there jollies off of.

The film should build up every hero's stock and not just the stock of the heroes who are the most popular.

Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Hulk are just as important as important as the "Big 3".

 

[lixdexia]

It is. It really is. An Avengers film, or any group superhero film should not put its focus on just few or just a singular character. Every character/member of the main team should be a lead. Otherwise, what's the point of having them in the movie? If they aren't going to play as big/equal part as the other heroes, than don't bother having them in the film. A character shouldn't be in a film if they are just there for fanboys who know **** about comics to get there jollies off of.

The film should build up every hero's stock and not just the stock of the heroes who are the most popular.

Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Hulk are just as important as important as the "Big 3".

YEAH! just like in every football movie where the left guard gets as much focus as the quarter back, or war movies where every private is given just as much screen time as their sergeants...

that's a terrible idea and would bog down any movie. every team movie, every movie even, has a few characters they focus on. that's why some roles are called leads and others are supporting roles. thor, cap, and ironman should be the leads in an avengers movie.

 

[darthmagic]

YEAH! just like in every football movie where the left guard gets as much focus as the quarter back, or war movies where every private is given just as much screen time as their sergeants...

that's a terrible idea and would bog down any movie. every team movie, every movie even, has a few characters they focus on. that's why some roles are called leads and others are supporting roles. thor, cap, and ironman should be the leads in an avengers movie.

So a movie called "The AVENGERS" should not put equal emphasis on the characters that the title is about?

 

[Aesop Rocks]

The Avengers rox! :3

 

[lixdexia]

So a movie called "The AVENGERS" should not put equal emphasis on the characters that the title is about?

no? how do you not understand that? if you give every character equal focus you get something like the recent rash of holiday romcoms. you have a story, and you choose your leads based on which focus best serves the story. hawkeye is my #4 favorite avenger, but an avengers formation story told from his POV isn't nearly as interesting as one told from cap's, or thor's, or ironman's.

and being a supporting player isn't a bad thing, it's a situation in which hawkeye, black widow, and the hulk thrive. they are unburdened with having to carry the story and are allowed to show up, be badass, and then disappear until needed again.

 

[Nova2113]

But picture 2 and 3 are the same scene. Why would he wear two different suits in one scene?

Hold up! didn't after this scene, Thor and Cap rip the helmet to the suit off of Iron Man. If that's the case does that make this suit different for the suit in the last pic.... Is that the same fight or battle? So thinking the suits in 2 and 3 could be valid.

Also, how did Iron Man not burn Cap's shoulder when he sets up between Cap and Hulk in the bad ass Avengers Circle Shot? Sorry had to say something

 

[Nova2113]

I'm not so sure, remember that interview with Joss some months ago when he described that very scene where Hulk catches IM, he said Cap & Thor had to rip off his facemask to prevent him from suffocating or something along those lines. Obviously whatever hit Stark compromised the suit and i'm not sure it remains functional after that. he might have had to get another one somehow

Thinking the same thing... great post

 

[captainrogers]

Hold up! didn't after this scene, Thor and Cap rip the helmet to the suit off of Iron Man. If that's the case does that make this suit different for the suit in the last pic.... Is that the same fight or battle? So thinking the suits in 2 and 3 could be valid.

Also, how did Iron Man not burn Cap's shoulder when he sets up between Cap and Hulk in the bad ass Avengers Circle Shot? Sorry had to say something

Flame ******ant suit?
Also, I thought it was concentrated repulsors that provided his flight?