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[eddy]

I'll say it again, having Loki hold Jane prisoner during the invasion woulda made for some great emotional drama. I don't understand why the studio didn't throw her into the mix, specially now that Portman is such a draw to the GA.

Cause she was pregnant and just had her baby when they were filming

 

[terry78]

So what does it look like they're fighting in the most recent trailer? Do those creatures resemble anything from the books other than skrull or kree?

 

[Rock Sexton]

I'll say it again, having Loki hold Jane prisoner during the invasion woulda made for some great emotional drama. I don't understand why the studio didn't throw her into the mix, specially now that Portman is such a draw to the GA.

Budget?

EDIT: Like the poster said above she was also pregnant dude.

 

[eddy]

GOOD GOD. Thats beautiful. Why couldn't the one-sheet/POSTER be this good?

 

[eddy]

I think its funny that Black Widow is facing in a different direction from everyone else just so we can get a cheesecake shot of her ass.

 

[Iceman]

Cmon guys ..... you're talking about not one .... not two .... but three or four "love interests"

This is not a rom-com like "Valentine's Day" or some other ensemble. The dynamic with this film is completely different and would borderline corny if you're forcing that many love stories into it. These films already have their own individual tent poles to explore that area.

We don't need 'stories' but references, acknowledgements & cameos leave room for what might be without wasting plot time & also give added validity to the stories within each of those tentpoles. One of the reasons the MU is so strong is because of all the secondary links between characters as long as this is showcased in a non-intrusive way.

 

[Dr Lee]

Where can i get that canvas????

 

[Kirmit]

I think its funny that Black Widow is facing in a different direction from everyone else just so we can get a cheesecake shot of her ass.

The Hulk is in the same pose.........incase you wanna check him out t:.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

They coulda shot Portman's coverage after the birth. All her scenes coulda been condensed to Loki's "Throne Room" plus the abduction site. Marlon Brando & Robert Duvall's characters in Apocalypse Now were basically extended cameos. They were on-set for a tiny period of time & look at what we got. For me, it comes down to the studio not wanting to pay Portman. But her presence in the film in a hostage capacity woulda made it a hell of alot more intense, plus would alleviate the unresolved storyline between Jane & Thor.

 

[craigdbfan]

That canvas is absolutely beautiful.

 

[mara]

GOOD GOD. Thats beautiful. Why couldn't the one-sheet/POSTER be this good?

Want!!! t:

 

[marvel_freshman]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)

Spoiler

 

[sabetoonth]

Do want

 

[Rock Sexton]

They coulda shot Portman's coverage after the birth. All her scenes coulda been condensed to Loki's "Throne Room" plus the abduction site. Marlon Brando & Robert Duvall's characters in Apocalypse Now were basically extended cameos. They were on-set for a tiny period of time & look at what we got. For me, it comes down to the studio not wanting to pay Portman. But her presence in the film in a hostage capacity woulda made it a hell of alot more intense, plus would alleviate the unresolved storyline between Jane & Thor.

How do you know you're not getting that situation in Thor 2? Which would then make doing it in Avengers stupid because you'd be recycling.

Again, they have individual tentpoles to explore these areas. It's crazy to think how hung up a lot are getting on it ..... but then again you like to pick at this movie so I'm not surprised you're among them.

 

[Rock Sexton]

We don't need 'stories' but references, acknowledgements & cameos leave room for what might be without wasting plot time & also give added validity to the stories within each of those tentpoles. One of the reasons the MU is so strong is because of all the secondary links between characters as long as this is showcased in a non-intrusive way.

References are fine ..... I'm not arguing against those.

 

[Iceman]

Great! I don't know why on a lot of Avengers artwork Cap doesn't look particularly like Evans while Thor, Black Widow & Hawkeye always do.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I agree having them there does create more tension and gives the hero a personal investment but it doesn't have to be a love interest, it could be family or friends, show how important those relationships are instead of 99% of the time taking the expected route of a love interested.

That's just not as powerful as a love interest but yes, you're right, it can work... and HAS worked... Bruce Waynes family is killed, Matt Murdochs father is killed, Peter Parker is motivated by his love for his Aunt May and his need to protect her, Tony Stark has Rhodey...

However, friends and Family only covers the sentimental attachment, love interests can very strongly represent a future. A paradise or safe haven for a hero trapped in an endless battle or cycle of destructive behaviour, ala Rachel Dawes, Mary Jane, Pepper Potts.

It can be done badly, like in Green Lantern or something, but as I said, that depends on the writing, not the idea of the love interest as a narrative tool.

For the most part, the Marvel love interest have been done pretty well. Each one feels unique to each character and serves a different narrative purpose. Pepper represents growing up and taking responsibility for Tony, Betty represents Bruce's human side that he fears he has lost with the Hulk, as well as his guilt for hurting him, Jane represents Thor's humble nature, giving him a strong bond to Midgard as well as teaching him to appreciate non-Asgardian life forms and Peggy helps Cap feel like the great leader he becomes as well as adding to the tragedy of him being frozen in ice.

I don't see any problems with those love interests and they don't feel cliched to me at all.

 

[Dr Lee]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)

Spoiler

 

[Silvermoon]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)

Spoiler

Woohoo!!! And once again, I change my desktop background! *lol* Actually, I think I'm going to have it cycle through the UHQ textless poster + banner t:

Thank you muchly freshman for tracking these down

 

[rashad]

Better than the official poster art.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Completely and utterly disagree. That sounds forced as hell.

Well yes, if they implemented it in the basic and rudimentary way I just described it, all in one sentence, but it doesn't have to be that way.

The best and easiest way I could see that working is the way they developed Pyro's arc in X-Men 2. It was basically just one shot of him looking at Bobby Drakes family photos and we got SO much character information. Tie that together with his 'attack the cops' scene by using the same musical theme and bang, you've got yourself some easy, non-screen time chewing character development. It didn't take away from the film at all but instead made a basic, supporting character, someone real and interesting.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Robert Downey Jr is the most popular star in the movie. Iron Man is the most established and marketable character. RDJ has been a bigger star in Asia than in the US for decades. The marketing team is charge of getting asses in seats, NOT the plot and characterization of the film itself. It's been confirmed ad nauseum that Iron Man is not the central character in the film. Can we let this rest now? It's getting uber repetitive and unnecessary.

Save your breath, it's like talking to a wall. That guy's sole purpose around here is to get a rise out of people.

 

[mara]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)

Spoiler

Niiiice! Thank you much!

 

[Gamma Goliath]

that poster makes me want the art of Avengers book really badly now.

 

[Kirmit]

That's just not as powerful as a love interest but yes, you're right, it can work... and HAS worked... Bruce Waynes family is killed, Matt Murdochs father is killed, Peter Parker is motivated by his love for his Aunt May and his need to protect her, Tony Stark has Rhodey...

However, friends and Family only covers the sentimental attachment, love interests can very strongly represent a future. A paradise or safe haven for a hero trapped in an endless battle or cycle of destructive behaviour, ala Rachel Dawes, Mary Jane, Pepper Potts.

It can be done badly, like in Green Lantern or something, but as I said, that depends on the writing, not the idea of the love interest as a narrative tool.

For the most part, the Marvel love interest have been done pretty well. Each one feels unique to each character and serves a different narrative purpose. Pepper represents growing up and taking responsibility for Tony, Betty represents Bruce's human side that he fears he has lost with the Hulk, as well as his guilt for hurting him, Jane represents Thor's humble nature, giving him a strong bond to Midgard as well as teaching him to appreciate non-Asgardian life forms and Peggy helps Cap feel like the great leader he becomes as well as adding to the tragedy of him being frozen in ice.

I don't see any problems with those love interests and they don't feel cliched to me at all.

I agree that Marvel have for the most part done well with the love interests, I'm just hoping they don't turn into the Raimi Spiderman films, all three films MJ is kidnapped and Spidey's focal point for the final battle. Basically I'm just hoping sequels to the Marvel films don't have as much focus on the love interests, they're understandable in the hero's first film but after that different areas of their character should be explored IMO with love interests taking a sideline.