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[HUMANIMAL]

too much spare time infront of the computer is what really went wrong lol

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

"where's Jane?"......"She's missing." That would add tension, and Portman wouldn't even have to appear. Honorable mention and leads into the next film. *shrug* There has to be a mention of some kind....Doesn't there?

Honestly? That might not be a terrible way to set up Thor 2.

We know from set photos that Loki and Thor go back to Asgard together. Maybe when they get back and Loki is about to suffer punishment he reveals his contingency plan of abducting Jane and withholding her location from Thor. I wouldn't hate that at all.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

"where's Jane?"......"She's missing." That would add tension, and Portman wouldn't even have to appear. Honorable mention and leads into the next film. *shrug* There has to be a mention of some kind....Doesn't there?

There must be.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Honestly? That might not be a terrible way to set up Thor 2.

We know from set photos that Loki and Thor go back to Asgard together. Maybe when they get back and Loki is about to suffer punishment he reveals his contingency plan of abducting Jane and withholding her location from Thor. I wouldn't hate that at all.

Me neither.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

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[Poni_Boy]

"where's Jane?"......"She's missing." That would add tension, and Portman wouldn't even have to appear. Honorable mention and leads into the next film. *shrug* There has to be a mention of some kind....Doesn't there?

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

 

[mara]

Honestly? That might not be a terrible way to set up Thor 2.

We know from set photos that Loki and Thor go back to Asgard together. Maybe when they get back and Loki is about to suffer punishment he reveals his contingency plan of abducting Jane and withholding her location from Thor. I wouldn't hate that at all.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.

I mean, I couldn't agree more, but to make her relevant again I think setting up an abduction near the end of the film would be kind of nice. It might give us an opportunity to hear form Thor WHY exactly he cares for her so much. But yeah, it wouldn't be appropriate during the course of the film. It would have to be near the end or after the credits.

 

[mara]

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.

A nod is fine with me too.

 

[PowerPacked]

Alexei, have you considered that maybe, just maybe, Natalie might be busy with something else?

Like, oh, I don't know, raising her newborn child? You know, that thing that parents do?

And that maybe that she doesn't necessarily need to be in this story because, god forbid, it might NOT have something to do with her?

 

[PowerPacked]

And don't start with that 'Marvel pissed off Natalie Portman' or 'They can't afford her.' One, they have a budget of 220+ million. They could afford it, and those rumors were never confirmed by any source at all.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I mean, I couldn't agree more, but to make her relevant again I think setting up an abduction near the end of the film would be kind of nice. It might give us an opportunity to hear form Thor WHY exactly he cares for her so much. But yeah, it wouldn't be appropriate during the course of the film. It would have to be near the end or after the credits.

Like I've said before, hoping for a random abduction to lead into another movie when we don't even know A) how Tho/Loki's relationship will be at the end of this film and B) if Portman even plans to return, makes no sense. There isn't enough information to even begin to guess what would benefit Thor 2's plot, much less how Jane Foster would fit into it. Not only is Jane the weakest link of the bunch when it comes to Marvel's significant others, but she's also the only one with a pinch hitter

 

[AndrewGilkison]

You're starting an argument you will never be able to fully support.

In the cinematic medium, everything has already been done. In fact, it was done before films even came to be (through literature).

To call the rescue of a hero's love a "cliche" in an action/adventure picture is like saying heroes shouldn't be heroic

Its an ancient archetype that will NEVER get old, hence the reason why movies like Refn's DRIVE - despite a story that we've heard a billion times before, are still able to be labeled the very best of modern cinema.

I just finished watching Agniezska Holland's IN DARKNESS. The whole movie takes place during Nazi-occupied Poland & is basically an art-house answer to Schindler's List.

Do I think its cliche for another film to be made about a man who saves Jews and endangers his life in the process? Absolutely not. In Darkness is a brilliant film and while the story is just another hero's journey deep down, its the presentation, style and heart of the piece that make it so much more than just "Another Schindler's List".

So yeah, be careful what you label "cliche" because THAT might be a cliche.

Jane being held captive during a global invasion would ADD to the drama of this film, not subtract.

Dude, honestly... if getting kidnapped by Loki is the best idea you can come up with for a Jane Foster role in the Avengers, then maybe she doesn't really belong in the movie in the first place, ya know?

Maybe she isn't NEEDED! Did that ever cross your mind? I mean, why is it absolutely vital that she be in it? Why is she absolutely necessary?

I mean, I love Natalie Portman, but whatever she could possibly do in The Avengers, she could do just as good or better in Thor 2 because she will likely have more screen time there than she would in an Avengers movie, because we won't have other superheroes sharing screen time with Thor and her.

I mean, I wouldn’t mind if she was in The Avengers, but not having her there isn’t Marvel Studios’ and Kevin Feige’s latest crime against humanity that you want to get on your soap box and rant about, like every other decision they make that you don’t agree with and act melodramatic about.

So please stop being so melodramatic about a MOVIE because at the end of the day, that is all it is. A movie based on a comic book. It’s not a heinous act of cruelty because the top star in the movie gets top billing on the poster (which is standard practice in Hollywood) or because Jane Foster is not in The Avengers just so she can get kidnapped by the villain, because that is one plot development we don’t really need in The Avengers movie because I am sure there will be a ton of them in there already.

 

[mara]

I mean, I couldn't agree more, but to make her relevant again I think setting up an abduction near the end of the film would be kind of nice. It might give us an opportunity to hear form Thor WHY exactly he cares for her so much. But yeah, it wouldn't be appropriate during the course of the film. It would have to be near the end or after the credits.

It just feels like there has to be something, be it setting up the next film with an "honorable mention" or just a simple "nod".....something.....

 

[BigThor]

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.

I agree, but alot of people seem to be obsessed with her for some reason.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Jane needs to find a nice human guy... She's hogging Sif's man.

 

[BigThor]

Jane needs to find a nice human guy... She's hogging Sif's man.

Like I've said before, hoping for a random abduction to lead into another movie when we don't even know A) how Tho/Loki's relationship will be at the end of this film and B) if Portman even plans to return, makes no sense. There isn't enough information to even begin to guess what would benefit Thor 2's plot, much less how Jane Foster would fit into it. Not only is Jane the weakest link of the bunch when it comes to Marvel's significant others, but she's also the only one with a pinch hitter

Agreed, but hopefully this doesn't turn into another "Jane vs Sif" debate because those can get quite annoying.

 

[wobbly]

Assuming Thor meets with Selvig it should be taken for granted they will talk about Jane.

 

[mara]

I agree, but alot of people seem to be obsessed with her for some reason.

To me it just feels unfinished? Not sure how to explain....... Honestly it's really not that important, I was just throwing my 2 cents in. To me this movie is a dream come true, my fav hero's on the big screen! Lots of action and a good plot! That's really all I want!

 

[mara]

With lot's of Thor of course, being he's my absolute favorite! hehe

 

[protocida]

Loki views humans as insects, and believes in his advantage due to the Tesseract and his army. He wouldn't miss time capturing Jane in order to taunt his brother when invading Earth and threatning innocents lives already gets the necessary rise out of Thor.

Basically, she's insignificant to Loki.

At best, I expect a ''Where's Jane?'' from Thor, and a ''she's safe'' from Fury.

At best.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

Like I've said before, hoping for a random abduction to lead into another movie when we don't even know A) how Tho/Loki's relationship will be at the end of this film and B) if Portman even plans to return, makes no sense. There isn't enough information to even begin to guess what would benefit Thor 2's plot, much less how Jane Foster would fit into it. Not only is Jane the weakest link of the bunch when it comes to Marvel's significant others, but she's also the only one with a pinch hitter

Well we do have some information. Portman is contractually obligated to continue with the franchise and we know that Hiddleston is too. So if Loki is in another Thor film (which they really should be giving him a break) then I can only assume he's there to be menacing.

I'm going off the fact that during their fight in the Thor movie, Loki threatens to go after Jane right in Thor's face. Who's to say he won't make good on that threat? He certainly seems scorned. I personally think Portman's talent was completely wasted in Thor and her character was dumbed down to nothing. I get the whole "star-crossed lovers" thing, but boy was it pulled off bad. If she's still on for this franchise, then she definitely needs to be reinvigorated. Her being under threat from Loki (not necessarily kidnapped) would be a good way for me to want to care about her and also care about Thor saving her. I can already see a scenario where Loki could make Thor choose between Sif and Jane through some big scheme he hatches. That would actually be pretty cool.

It just feels like there has to be something, be it setting up the next film with an "honorable mention" or just a simple "nod".....something.....

That's why I'm happy I'm not a writer!

 

[BigThor]

To me it just feels unfinished? Not sure how to explain....... Honestly it's really not that important, I was just throwing my 2 cents in. To me this movie is a dream come true, my fav hero's on the big screen! Lots of action and a good plot! That's really all I want!

With lot's of Thor of course, being he's my absolute favorite! hehe

I felt it succeeded at what it was mean to be, but it could definately be expanded upon in THOR II if Marvel really wants to go that route.

Yeah it's no secret that Thor's my favorite either and I can't wait to see each hero get a chance to show what makes them awesome in this film.

 

[mara]

I felt it succeeded at what it was mean to be, but it could definately be expanded upon in THOR II if Marvel really wants to that route.

Yeah it's no secret that Thor's my favorite either and I can't wait to see each one of the heroes get a chance to show what makes them awesome.

Right on!