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[Weadazoid]

Because Galactus and Surtur are more poweful than Thor. They'd laugh off his attemps to time/dimension dump them. They also have those abilities, but on a much higher level than Thor.

The reason Thor doesn't always use the full capability of his powers is because the stories would be boring. Mjolnir is basically a plot device. That goes for pretty much all characters at some point.

exactly they would block that attempt, or simply reverse it in less then a minutes time.


And Thor knows this

 

[metaphysician]

Question:
Can Thor at full strength,(let's say his power when he defeated those who sit above) defeat Skyfather Hercules ?

If you mean Rune Thor, then sure. He was in a state beyond that of "just" a Skyfather. However, this was *not* Thor's normal state of being, not even close.

Under anything resembling normal circumstances, Thor can really do only one thing against a Skyfather: get his ass kicked.

 

[metaphysician]

Also, there's another reason Thor doesn't go for time-dumps: he doesn't have the ability anymore. Back during the 70s, I think it was, he was tricked into sacrificing Mjolnir's time travel capacity by the Space Phantom.

He still can drop an opponent in another dimension, mind. However, this is not something he can do by just waving his hand; he needs to spin up Mjolnir, create a rift/vortex, and then push the opponent through. Not the easiest thing when dealing with a guy such as Kurse. He has done it on Juggernaut a couple times, though.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

does anyone find it odd that with the exception of Cobie Smulders there were no real additions to the pre-existing cast in The Avengers?

 

[Silvermoon]

does anyone find it odd that with the exception of Cobie Smulders there were no real additions to the pre-existing cast in The Avengers?

I don't really find it odd....it's a large ensemble cast as it is. If even more people had been added, the greater the risk of having waste valuable time on exposition and/or introductions for something that might not be worth it in the long run for this particular story, if that makes sense. Just my opinion though

 

[Poni_Boy]

does anyone find it odd that with the exception of Cobie Smulders there were no real additions to the pre-existing cast in The Avengers?

I consider an Hawkeye an addition. He never got a proper introduction in Thor. He could have been random SHIELD agent and no one would have known the difference.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, I can guarantee that I can say to my fiance that he was in Thor and she'll just give me one of those blank looks.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I consider an Hawkeye an addition. He never got a proper introduction in Thor. He could have been random SHIELD agent and no one would have known the difference.

I disagree for a reason:
I went with a group of friends and/or people I randomly know to watch Thor. All in all we were about 40 persons. Not all of them are deep into Marvel lore. Most of them aren't. Knowing the Hawkeye scene before I went to the cinema I thought that not one of them would get that cameo. So I was surprised that after the movie was over I was asked by about 10 people which superhero the guy with the bow was. They clearly thought he was there for a reason and might have a bigger role in the comics. It wouldn't have been the same reaction if they thought it was just some random SHIELD agent.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I disagree for a reason:
I went with a group of friends and/or people I randomly know to watch Thor. All in all we were about 40 persons. Not all of them are deep into Marvel lore. Most of them aren't. Knowing the Hawkeye scene before I went to the cinema I thought that not one of them would get that cameo. So I was surprised that after the movie was over I was asked by about 10 people which superhero the guy with the bow was. They clearly thought he was there for a reason and might have a bigger role in the comics. It wouldn't have been the same reaction if they thought it was just some random SHIELD agent.

Yes, and that defines a cameo. That doesn't mean he was introduced to the audience. He wasn't a "character", just an Easter Egg. Coulson was a character in Iron Man. Samson was a character in TIH, Sif was a character in Thor. They were not integral to the story itself but were fleshed out characters that played in the plot. If you follow that logic that a cameo is an introduction to the audience then it's not a stretch to say when Rhodey looked at the Mark II armor it was introducing War Machine since he became War Machine in the sequel. If Rhodey had not become War Machine in IM2 that scene in IM would have been a throwaway, just like how if Hawkeye was not in Avengers his Thor cameo would have been one.

FYI only a handful of the people I saw Thor with at a press screening knew it was him. This was before the clip was released online that blatantly said it was.

EDIT: typo

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

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[MrGreen]

So... the 3D glasses of each Avenger ar real? That would be the only reason I would go to a 3D screening. I want the Hulk ones

 

[Poni_Boy]

So... the 3D glasses of each Avenger ar real? That would be the only reason I would go to a 3D screening. I want the Hulk ones

Scroll down:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=357909&page=14

 

[Spideyfan93]

Bought my ticket for midnight!

Wonder if you have to wait on line to get the glasses or if they give them out in a bin inside the theater.

Because that'd be wrong to wait on line again just to get the glasses. And it'd be even more scum if people won't let you through to the front even though it will literally take no more than 5 seconds to show ticket, get the glasses, and proceed.

Which one do you hope on receiving? Personally hoping for HULK's or Iron Man's.

 

[MrGreen]

Scroll down:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=357909&page=14

Thanks!

 

[Poni_Boy]

Bought my ticket for midnight!

Wonder if you have to wait on line to get the glasses or if they give them out in a bin inside the theater.

Because that'd be wrong to wait on line again just to get the glasses. And it'd be even more scum if people won't let you through to the front even though it will literally take no more than 5 seconds to show ticket, get the glasses, and proceed.

Which one do you hope on receiving? Personally hoping for HULK's or Iron Man's.

You have to purchase the glasses when you purchase/pick up your ticket. Then you can pick which one you want

 

[Raiden]

does anyone find it odd that with the exception of Cobie Smulders there were no real additions to the pre-existing cast in The Avengers?

Like Poni Boy said, Hawkeye can be considered as one due to the 2-minute cameo in Thor. But the reason why it is crucial to have all these characters introduced in their own respective movies is so we won't have too many new characters in TA that need backstory and development, and the movie can move forward with its story and plots. Although First Class did it without previous movies setting it up, they cope by focusing on only two characters, Xavier and Erik/Magneto, with Mystique gotten some from her relationship with Xavier. In TA, it is truly an ensemble movie where just about everyone gets some spotlight, so it is more important to do it like this.

 

[Spideyfan93]

Ah thanks man, well we paid 16 bucks by the way. So we paid for the full "experience."

They pushed the price up a dollar, used to be 15 here. Could be worse though, ya'll who live in NYC got to shell out 20 bucks.

 

[Incredible Hans]

Also, there's another reason Thor doesn't go for time-dumps: he doesn't have the ability anymore. Back during the 70s, I think it was, he was tricked into sacrificing Mjolnir's time travel capacity by the Space Phantom.

He still can drop an opponent in another dimension, mind. However, this is not something he can do by just waving his hand; he needs to spin up Mjolnir, create a rift/vortex, and then push the opponent through. Not the easiest thing when dealing with a guy such as Kurse. He has done it on Juggernaut a couple times, though.

He also did it on the Absorbing Man once.

If it worked with Juggernaut and Absorbing Man, it should work for Kurse. And a lot of other tough people who nearly defeated Thor - but Thor nevertheless used this power on them.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Ah thanks man, well we paid 16 bucks by the way. So we paid for the full "experience."

They pushed the price up a dollar, used to be 15 here. Could be worse though, ya'll who live in NYC got to shell out 20 bucks.

Nice! If that's at an AMC theater it may even include the fee for the glasses.

 

[Nova2113]

I'm downloading the "complete collection" right now, and its 1.5 gb, so i'm assuming i'll have my hands full for awhile.

Hey where did you find that collection and how much did you pay for it... PM me if you can't disclose such info lol

 

[Nova2113]

Actually its not a argument against ridiculous powers. When you give a character extreme powers you give there counter part (Villian/Rival) counter powers or at least powers to rival the main character ability.

It's kind of like in DBZ when the characters got to the point where there low level normal attacks were powerful enough to blow up planets. You would think that the villain characters that could survive in space with out food or water would just blow up the planet from the get go but story wise doing extreme things like that were more of a last restore when they couldn't win the battles. Plus the Heroes could all ways counter the attacks with there own attack which were equality as powerful.

Vegeta being the only exception. He doesn't care if he dies because he'd Rather die blowing up the planet than out right loose the fight.

Love Vegata! That's my dude right there btw just watched all the DBZ seasons the last few weekends.... Great stuff

 

[MrGreen]

Any news on the army?

 

[Raiden]

Any news on the army?

The identity of Loki's army will be kept secret until the movie is out, which for some countries it will be late April (we get it on May 4th).

 

[Quasimod0]

None, and it probably doesnt even matter

 

[Donut]

Unless people who see the Premiers spoil it