The Batman Reboot Casting Thread - Part 5

[hafizbat]

If you're talking about Marvel, Iron Man 3 was not "safe" at all...it was directed by Shane Black, it took the character in very dark, deep places, had perhaps the biggest and most well-executed twist in recent comicbook movies, and took GREAT risks for the core character of Iron Man (don't want to put any spoilers).

And it made over a billion dollars.

Also, I'd be wary of calling Marvel studios "safe" when they are brining previously unthinkable properties like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-man to the big screen. Even Thor, with all the cosmic magic stuff, could very easily have been cheesy. WB only had the guts to try Batman and Superman (their endeavor with GL being a failure) and now they're turning to Batman AGAIN to save them.

 

[Gianakin_]

Dark and deep?

 

[hafizbat]

The whole PTSD stuff showed how Stark was messed up, the Pepper/Killian sexual tension, his home getting destroyed, Happy in the hospital....yeah I'd say it went pretty far compared to your average popcorn supehero movie (say, The Avengers)

Definitely can't be called "safe", at the very least.

 

[Gianakin_]

I'll disagree and leave it at that.

 

[royalopez06]

 

[regwec]

That's a really nasty picture of Batman.

 

[hafizbat]

That's a really nasty picture of Batman.

Lol, I agree.

 

[royalopez06]

See this, this is nice...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nCcdec8WdM

 

[conan69]

^ Some of that was really great. Loved the

Spoiler

Ventriloquest scene

 

[DACrowe]

I can't imagine which studio you're talking about.

They took a huge chance on Nolan. They took a huge chance on Snyder in 300 and Watchmen and again in MOS after Sucker Punch bombed. Beyond that, they took a huge gamble on Baz Luhrmann, after his Australia bomb, to make The Great Gatsby his own unique way. They took a huge gamble on investing in Ben Affleck as a director after Gone Baby Gone flopped and got an Oscar for it with Argo.

I would say they are gutsy to a large degree. Moreso than Marvel is. However, Marvel gets better results on average for the fans. On that, there is no disagreeing.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Gone Baby Gone had great reviews and The Town was a huge hit. Not exactly a huge gamble.

 

[regwec]

I'm not sure "taking a gamble" necessarily equates to "deliberately failing".

 

[MechaOrga]

let me add that an actor locked into multiple seasons of a TV show is not gonna be cast as batman (who will be in SvB, Justive League, and a reboot batman movie, and not to mention be involved in pre-production/training).

TV contract comes first.

Ones of the reasons Joe M couldn't even screen test for Man Of Steel even though he was on Zack's radar.


My money is on a Dump Truck of money + Bale's Front yard happening

OR

A Karl Urban Type (i think he's a tad old though. but i could be wrong.

and I'll say again, i don't THINK they will cast an out gay actor to play batman even though Luke Evans and Bomer are perfect.

Just my 2 cents

 

[Maximus]

If you're talking about Marvel, Iron Man 3 was not "safe" at all...it was directed by Shane Black, it took the character in very dark, deep places, had perhaps the biggest and most well-executed twist in recent comicbook movies, and took GREAT risks for the core character of Iron Man (don't want to put any spoilers).

And it made over a billion dollars.

Also, I'd be wary of calling Marvel studios "safe" when they are brining previously unthinkable properties like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-man to the big screen. Even Thor, with all the cosmic magic stuff, could very easily have been cheesy. WB only had the guts to try Batman and Superman (their endeavor with GL being a failure) and now they're turning to Batman AGAIN to save them.

Iron man 3 dark and deep? HA.

The twist? You mean the twist which was revealed by using a disgusting poop joke?

 

[shauner111]

If you're talking about Marvel, Iron Man 3 was not "safe" at all...it was directed by Shane Black, it took the character in very dark, deep places, had perhaps the biggest and most well-executed twist in recent comicbook movies, and took GREAT risks for the core character of Iron Man (don't want to put any spoilers).

And it made over a billion dollars.

Also, I'd be wary of calling Marvel studios "safe" when they are brining previously unthinkable properties like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-man to the big screen. Even Thor, with all the cosmic magic stuff, could very easily have been cheesy. WB only had the guts to try Batman and Superman (their endeavor with GL being a failure) and now they're turning to Batman AGAIN to save them.

What movie did you watch? hahah. That was one hell of a safe CMB action movie. Cliché in every sense of the word.

Very deep and dark places??
there was literally 1 scene where he rushes out of the restaurant because of an incident. It was literally like 10 seconds and there was nothing dark about it. It was made into a joke a second later by a line of dialogue.

The most well-executed twist? Dude, that twist was the worst twist in the history of CBM's. It was embarrassing to watch. Everybody ive seen online + the people I saw it with, plus general people leaving the theater thought it was so stupid. They made it into a comedy. Like Shane Black's movies. Action-comedy.

It's fine that theyre bringing Guardians or Ant-Man to the screen. It's bold because people never heard of that stuff. But the actual premise of them are probably going to be pretty cliché. But maybe Guardians can be different. We'll see.

 

[kpryde]

I am new to these forums, so I apologize if these photos have already been seen. I posted this in the Man of Steel 2 forum already:

I think that Garrett Hedlund has the acting chops, look (with dyed black hair), physicality (he's 6'2"), age, and voice (losing his "drawl" he has a surprisingly deep voice) to be Bruce Wayne/Batman. I know that it is irrelevant, but he even sort of reminds me of Christian Bale in these photos:

 

[The Shape]

Reposting my Batman casting rant because it was either missed at the bottom of a page or completely ignored by everyone. It was in response to people mentioning Bomer as their choice:


How are you measuring his talent? Based off his performance in White Collar? Maybe you're thinking of how much you like him in Magic Mike?

Seems like people are naming Bomer purely because he looks the part, and yeah, I guess he does. If you want to cast Batman based on physical characteristics, maybe he's your guy. Chiseled face? Check. Nice head of hair? Check. Looks good in designer suits? Check. Ability to gain lean muscle mass? Probably. Even with all that, I'm far from sold on him. Casting Batman is not about checking things off a list like that. (Plus, am I the only one who thinks he looks exactly like Cavill in some pictures?)

My desire is that they go "out of the box" with the casting of Bruce/Batman, because sometimes, that's how you strike gold. To this day, some people would say Michael Keaton is their favorite Batman and he fits none of the physical characteristics I mentioned above. Fans literally boycotted his casting at first. How about Heath Ledger? Was there a single person who suggested him or hoped he was chosen to play The Joker in TDK? Not a chance, and his casting was a total shock to us all...but he ****ing nailed it. Chris Nolan saw something in him that others did not, and it paid off in spades. Imagine if we had gotten Crispin Glover (a fan favorite for TDK's Joker casting) simply because he pretty much looked the part and reflected a certain level of creepiness. We would have missed out on the total transformation we got from Heath.

IMO, the obvious choice is not always the best choice. By NOT playing it safe and NOT going with an obvious Hollywood hunk (or any of the popular choices from this thread), Snyder might have the best chance at pure magic.

*Side-note: What really sold Christian Bale for me was his performance in American Psycho. Not only was his body ripped, and not only did he LOOK the way Bruce Wayne should look, but he showed that he could play a tortured, somewhat demented soul...someone with multiple personalities. As Patrick Bateman, Bale was playing an outsider trying to blend in, a man filled with rage who was displaying a pure facade to those around him, someone who was unwillingly consumed by his own darkness. THAT's what we need from our Batman. We need an actor with the distinct ability to go back and forth between acting suave/charismatic...then unhinged/dangerous...emotionally vulnerable...powerful/sure of himself...etc

Sorry, but seeing Karl Urban scowling with only his mouth exposed, growling with a deep voice, striking cool poses in slow motion, while shooting dozens of bad guys...does not equate to a qualification to play Batman. It shouldn't be as cut and dry as that. *end rant*

 

[shauner111]

Great post Shape. With that in mind, from performances ive seen (there's many) I can say that Fassbender gives me that vibe you and the rest got from Bale in American Psycho. I also see this in Gosling even though he seems to be the "Keaton" choice. Outside the box. But their availability may prevent this casting from happening. Id like to see Snyder surprise us though.

 

[EliteF50]

Looks like Jensen Ackles wants the role!

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2013/07/jensen-ackles-campaigns-for-batman-a-dream-role/

 

[Zeus]

I am new to these forums, so I apologize if these photos have already been seen. I posted this in the Man of Steel 2 forum already:

I think that Garrett Hedlund has the acting chops, look (with dyed black hair), physicality (he's 6'2"), age, and voice (losing his "drawl" he has a surprisingly deep voice) to be Bruce Wayne/Batman. I know that it is irrelevant, but he even sort of reminds me of Christian Bale in these photos:

This is pretty good choice

 

[bane]

I know that Michael Pitt is not a popular choice, but I just see something psychopathic(dunno if that's written correctly) in his eyes.

 

[georgec]

I've also been down with Garret Hedlund. I think he could pull it off.

 

[hafizbat]

What movie did you watch? hahah. That was one hell of a safe CMB action movie. Cliché in every sense of the word.

Very deep and dark places??
there was literally 1 scene where he rushes out of the restaurant because of an incident. It was literally like 10 seconds and there was nothing dark about it. It was made into a joke a second later by a line of dialogue.

The most well-executed twist? Dude, that twist was the worst twist in the history of CBM's. It was embarrassing to watch. Everybody ive seen online + the people I saw it with, plus general people leaving the theater thought it was so stupid. They made it into a comedy. Like Shane Black's movies. Action-comedy.

It's fine that theyre bringing Guardians or Ant-Man to the screen. It's bold because people never heard of that stuff. But the actual premise of them are probably going to be pretty cliché. But maybe Guardians can be different. We'll see.

Sigh once again, your DC fanboyism clouds your judgement. Whether you liked the twist or not is another story, but NO ONE saw it coming. Thats what I meant by well-executed. And to use Iron Man's most iconic villain in such a way took guts, which was the original point of my post.

 

[shauner111]

Im sure the people who are campaigning to play batman wont get the role. Most of the time, this is the case.

 

[shauner111]

Sigh once again, your DC fanboyism clouds your judgement. Whether you liked the twist or not is another story, but NO ONE saw it coming. Thats what I meant by well-executed. And to use Iron Man's most iconic villain in such a way took guts, which was the original point of my post.

Without internet sure, it was out of nowhere. But was the execution good? No. It was pure comedy and only done because A) they wanted to shock people and B) they hired an actor like Guy Pearce and needed a reason for his character to be the physical villain at the end of the movie. Poorly executed.

And it has nothing to do with being a DC fanboy. I don't care about Iron Man at all, but I don't walk in to a movie I payed for to think about DC and how I think they have better characters than Marvel Studios lol. I pay to see a good movie.

You didn't answer the rest of what I said. Only that my judgement is cloudy, not at all. There was nothing deep or dark or "not cliché" about Iron Man 3. It was nothing but a typical lighthearted action movie made to sell popcorn. I can watch 90 percent of other action or comic book movies and get the exact same plot or cheesiness.