BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - Part 19

[roach]

Why are you doing this? Let's just take him to the police, then go home together. Don't you see, we're the same... split down the middle... please...

 

[Reiter]

I think the cape glide is more likely to be missing than the grapple.

No, no, nooooo! That was the coolest thing Nolan ever added to his arsenal! They even brought it to the comics.

Arkham Origins has a better design of Batman in terms of the cowl and emblem.

I'm with you! Preach it.

What do you find better about the emblem?

The bat isnt overweight.

Look, we all appreciate Miller's drawing style and how it worked for that particular story. Batman himself was a Hulk like monster in a batsuit, so the emblem fit him. A normal batman doesnt need that thing. You can barely tell it's a bat.

 

[roach]

Then it will happen this way: You make the kill, but your pain doesn't die with Harvey, it grows. So you run out into the night to find another face, and another, and another, until one terrible morning you wake up and realize that revenge has become your whole life. And you won't know why.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Those aren't raindrops...those are Bat-tears

The empty swing set represents his tattered childhood.

 

[KalMart]

Where's the bomb?

JR: **** you man....I ain't saying sh-...

: They call you the Jackrabbit, don't they...?

JR: Yeah, so?

Why would that be?

JR: Maybe because I'm so quick, and I **** everything in sight...just like your mom, bro....booyah!

Or is it because of your hearing.....?

JR: ........that's a load of b-.....

...your sensitive, delicate hearing.....

JR: .....right, you go on believing that crap...

....especially certain frequencies....

JR: Hey...I want a lawyer...!

....certain, very peculiar frequencies....

JR: Now you stop right there, you crazy son of a....!

...like, say....rope rubbing on wood.....

JR: ...no don't.....DON'T...NO....!!!

JR: ...NOOOOOOAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH....!!!!...it's in the library! It's in the LIBRARY...!!! Oh sweet Jessus STOP...!!

 

[roach]

Last one

This is why Superman works alone.

 

[Marvin]

The bat isnt overweight.

Look, we all appreciate Miller's drawing style and how it worked for that particular story. Batman himself was a Hulk like monster in a batsuit, so the emblem fit him. A normal batman doesnt need that thing. You can barely tell it's a bat.

You mean like the emblem on Superman right?

"Look" I was just asking. I personally have no preference. Always interesting to get different people's insight. I heard the emblem in this case might be a slab of armor in which case, size might come in handy. I also was hoping for ideas outside of 'tradition'. Either way, I'm glad to hear it.

 

[TheBat812]

The huge bat on this suit looks awesome. Perfect, imo.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[KalMart]

I like it.

 

[KalMart]

 

[Par Avion]

Problem here is that you just make this statement and don't at all attempt to support it. It's not just that I argued how such things don't actually present an obvious disadvantage(see army helmets comparison), but it's that I argued for the various advantages they present: He can jump off of buildings and fly around a city thanks to the cape, he can protect others..etc(for example). That's a tactical advantage Point Black Period. If you want to argue why those idea are false, then you we'll get somewhere new but if you simply say it's all aesthetics in comics..I suppose we'll just have to leave it at that.

One can invent/justify/rationalize any design element, no matter how absurd (eg. The utility belt is a lighter color so that Bruce is able to see it more clearly in the dark). These sorts of rationalizations are clearly absurd justifications for visually dynamic design choices (static mask covering face w/ exposed, clearly human mouth when one wants to appear as a creature? bat emblem on chest neither bright nor attention drawing? And on and on).

In they end, they are not all simply design choices, some serve the premise in particular ways beyond aesthetics the other doesn't. The yellow belt vs the black(very dark) one..

And some don't (bat emblem). In what way does a black belt "serve the premise" over a yellow one?

Your first point- Why he fights crime in a costume and not in various other ways is an attempt to rationalize the absurd. The fact that there is an attempt that can be made is entirely the point. Again, gold/yellow belt? I'm still waiting.

Your second- I'm not sure why you are asking me what advantage the gold/yellow belt provides. I've consistently asserted the answer is zero imo.

I know you have, but I asked "what disadvantage a gold belt presents". Similar to what is the actual advantage a bat emblem (neither bright nor attention drawing) on his chest is.

Lastly- You said the poster(and his ilk) was trashing the old to boost the new, however I think he has an appreciation for both, only that he likes one more for said particular reason and likes the other less for said particular reason(can't speak for him though). I see what you are trying to argue here but imo, you aren't quite doing it. One approach presents the Tac-advantage, the other doesn't and in various cases works against it. I think the premise works best when all things work towards the former.

I'm going by what he said/presented- Not what I think he might have meant. Whether that was his actual intention is unknown, but I see this exact behaviour on these boards a lot. An observation.

Unfortunately you haven't presented any argument as to why a gold/yellow/bronze belt present a tactical disadvantage yet.

 

[Bathead]

Possibly...or a knife...or something else. The point, IMO, was to show he's been around the block a few times.

I'm curious.
A few people here are acting like this suit has been damaged after a long time in service. I have to ask those folks, do you really think he has just the one suit?
I doubt it.
Either way, the damage on there is minimal, (all I can see is the few scratches on the emblem) he could have gotten that in just one fight.

 

[lujho]

Seriously.. would ANYONE have thought of using the texture of the suit like that? It looks like there are cuts in the suit stitched up to make raised lines, like Batman has been attacked by knives and Alfred has stitched it up. How great is that?

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

Seriously.. would ANYONE have thought of using the texture of the suit like that? It looks like there are cuts in the suit stitched up to make raised lines, like Batman has been attacked by knives and Alfred has stitched it up. How great is that?

It also looks veins, making him look superhuman. They did a great job.

 

[Par Avion]

Adding textures/patterns to super suits has been old hat since 2002.

 

[Bathead]

it was actually a gadget that was introduced in the Burton movies. If they want a Batman that is it's own entity they may not go with it. I don't recall Nolan's Batman using it but I could be wrong.

Burton may have "invented" the grapnel gun, but it is certainly a major part of Batman's arsenal these days since, as much as the batarangs or the Batmobile. Since B '89, he's used it in every incarnation around, the comics, the subsequent movies, all the animated series and video games. I'm sure it will show up here too, if there's an opportunity to do so.

 

[knowsbleed]

I think I see a loose thread in the cape...


... WORST SUIT EVAR!!!

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Still can't believe this suit is real.

 

[BatFan1979]

Very close to the photo! Love this image...hope the belt is yellow (even a muted yellow) in the film.

 

[Rorschach2012]

i really like the black utility belt

I hope the symbol is darker than the rest of his torso , but other than that the suit is perfcect

 

[Mr. Finger]

I think the shape on the right is a little off to what have been shown.. The lower outside tips looked picked in to me..
Spread those wings out a little? And we'll have it.. IMO...

As far as the belt, and the muscles?
I think that the suit will be a charcoal grey.. With a cooler blue hint to it..
I think that the belt will be a warmer grey, with some gold highlights dry brushed on them..
The cowl, cape, gauntlets, and the boots will be the darkest.. If not black..
The emblem will be darker than the suit, but perhaps, not as dark as the cowl and the other pieces.

I just worry about Snyder de saturating it too much on film as he did with MOS..
That MOS suit had a lot more color going on than it looked in the finished product, and I would like that to change.

And as far as the Supersuit? I think that it would look a little better if the "S" was NOT textured.. Wrong thread I know..

 

[Krumm]

That new batsuit is going to make one BAD ASS statue. Can't wait to see that.

 

[Saint]

I was initially hoping to see the oval make a return (same reason I wanted long ears; variety is a good thing and Batman designs have stagnant for years, even in the comics) but on this design, I'm glad they stuck with the black bat.

The oval would look pretty out of place on that beastly, organic design. It would require a sleeker, cleaner suit.

Incidentally, the image really looks like Eduardo Risso's Batman.

 

[Marvin]

I just worry about Snyder de saturating it too much on film as he did with MOS..
That MOS suit had a lot more color going on than it looked in the finished product, and I would like that to change.

Snyders films tend to be more colourful than not(watchmen/300). It actually, tends to depend on the setting and time of day. As I often refer, superman in the afternoon desert wasn't not desaturated.