BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 1

[Rorschach2012]

Why do people think of Doomsday when we hear about--Kryptonian DNA--Lex--Modification--Villain-- rather than Bizzaro?

because Bizarro as the physical villain is a rehash of Superman vs Zod

Doomsday may just be a brute, but he provides something new with his appearance.

 

[GreenKToo]

Just a thought/what if, but what if russia nukes one of its own towns to destroy the threat, and it has no effect on it.
Superman couldnt stop the first nuke but we're seeing him stop the next one(s).

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Why do people think of Doomsday when we hear about--Kryptonian DNA--Lex--Modification--Villain-- rather than Bizzaro?

Hmm. What about both?

Maybe Zod's body is experimented on (to learn about Superman's physiology and weaknesses) and is eventually reanimated like Frankenstein's monster and breaks free. But it continually devolves into something resembling Doomsday.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

No offense to Michael Shannon but he already looks like doomsday.He got a big ass head and let's face facts, not an attractive man.

 

[Caped Crusader]

http://batman-news.com/2015/06/25/jeffrey-dean-morgan-confirms-batman-v-superman-role/

 

[NosfeRomas]

Thomas Wayne !!!!!!!

 

[GreenKToo]

But hasnt that been pretty much known for months now?

 

[Gee]

If THR or Variety doesn't confirm it, I don't believe it.

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

I forget which order these were released and I really don't know the whole story behind JJ Abrams vs Zack Snyder, but.....

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and of course...

 

[shauner111]

because Bizarro as the physical villain is a rehash of Superman vs Zod

Doomsday may just be a brute, but he provides something new with his appearance.

His appearance is new but it could be a total rehash of Zod and the destruction from MOS with buildings collapsing forever. Im pretty stoked for the first two acts of this movie but im NOT looking forward to the final act because i have a feeling Snyder's going to repeat everything.

 

[GreenKToo]

I wouldnt mind a little city destroying action but i'd prefer the final battle be out in the middle of nowhere, and we get to see some dbz style of fighting, ie, mountains crumbling, and huge craters formed from the impacts of the bodies.

 

[shauner111]

I wouldnt mind a little city destroying action but i'd prefer the final battle be out in the middle of nowhere, and we get to see some dbz style of fighting, ie, mountains crumbling, and huge craters formed from the impacts of the bodies.

If i had a choice between buildings crumbling in the middle of a city or Doomsday fighting the Trinity in the middle of nowhere...ill take middle of nowhere. I really dont need to see cities destroyed in a superhero movie ever again.

But i think im just sick of Snyder and directors like him who constantly use CG for everything. It's really not my thing, im an old school action guy. That's why these Justice League movies aren't interesting to me anymore besides the Batman portion and maybe seeing how the new cast pull it off. I feel like every superhero movie follows the same formula now, even the gritty ones, where the ending gets overdone with the visual effects, destruction, alien invasions. Until the heroes save the day and band together before the final shot. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

But sure, ill take the battle in a secluded area for this one. At least it's a little different.

 

[Verick808]

I'd doomsday is fighting the trinity and it doesn't end on a one on one betweenn Superman and Doomsday I will be disappointed. Superman has been losing his rogues gallery to the league for long enough.

 

[JOE]

Supes and Wonderwoman are going to get destroyed by Doomsday, then Batman will come... And this will be the result.

 

[shauner111]

Supes and Wonderwoman are going to get destroyed by Doomsday, then Batman will come... And this will be the result.

That wouldn't surprise me. I can map this movie out in my head and it will probably come true. Disappointing but i'll be happy if they surprise me.

 

[GreenKToo]

If i had a choice between buildings crumbling in the middle of a city or Doomsday fighting the Trinity in the middle of nowhere...ill take middle of nowhere. I really dont need to see cities destroyed in a superhero movie ever again.

But i think im just sick of Snyder and directors like him who constantly use CG for everything. It's really not my thing, im an old school action guy. That's why these Justice League movies aren't interesting to me anymore besides the Batman portion and maybe seeing how the new cast pull it off. I feel like every superhero movie follows the same formula now, even the gritty ones, where the ending gets overdone with the visual effects, destruction, alien invasions. Until the heroes save the day and band together before the final shot. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

But sure, ill take the battle in a secluded area for this one. At least it's a little different.

I know what you mean. I got my wish with mos in seeing a huge battle in a city with lots of destruction. AV did the same. Lets take it to a desert, ocean, or a forest this time. Got to have a few buildings destroyed tho, i get that.
I agree about to much CG being used in film, its lazy. It's used to much, when pratical effects would be much better, especially in close up shots.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I know what you mean. I got my wish with mos in seeing a huge battle in a city with lots of destruction. AV did the same. Lets take it to a desert, ocean, or a forest this time. Got to have a few buildings destroyed tho, i get that.
I agree about to much CG being used in film, its lazy. It's used to much, when pratical effects would be much better, especially in close up shots.

That's why I like the Smallville battle more. More in camera destruction. Though superspeed would be hard to portray without heavy cgi.

 

[ernesth100]

I always thought the Doomsday created from Zod's dna would be a great idea.

 

[Rowsdower!]

If i had a choice between buildings crumbling in the middle of a city or Doomsday fighting the Trinity in the middle of nowhere...ill take middle of nowhere. I really dont need to see cities destroyed in a superhero movie ever again.

But i think im just sick of Snyder and directors like him who constantly use CG for everything. It's really not my thing, im an old school action guy. That's why these Justice League movies aren't interesting to me anymore besides the Batman portion and maybe seeing how the new cast pull it off. I feel like every superhero movie follows the same formula now, even the gritty ones, where the ending gets overdone with the visual effects, destruction, alien invasions. Until the heroes save the day and band together before the final shot. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

But sure, ill take the battle in a secluded area for this one. At least it's a little different.

Shauner, if you want to avoid CGI in battle scenes, then I think you should give up on the superhero genre and even the sci-fi genre. I mean, even though that new Star Wars movie is being hailed as the greatest film ever made already for using PRACTICAL effects, there's still going to be ton of CGI.

Personally, I think CGI is fine because it's improved to the point where it can bring these larger-than-life characters and situations to the big screen and it looks cool.

Unless you've got some guy like Alan Taylor at the helm who clearly doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

 

[Mach2Infinity]

Do you think this Batman will have the ability to glide with his regular suit? The cape looks to be made out of some leathery material rather than the cloth used previously.

 

[dario2739]

If i had a choice between buildings crumbling in the middle of a city or Doomsday fighting the Trinity in the middle of nowhere...ill take middle of nowhere. I really dont need to see cities destroyed in a superhero movie ever again.

But i think im just sick of Snyder and directors like him who constantly use CG for everything. It's really not my thing, im an old school action guy. That's why these Justice League movies aren't interesting to me anymore besides the Batman portion and maybe seeing how the new cast pull it off. I feel like every superhero movie follows the same formula now, even the gritty ones, where the ending gets overdone with the visual effects, destruction, alien invasions. Until the heroes save the day and band together before the final shot. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

But sure, ill take the battle in a secluded area for this one. At least it's a little different.

CGI is an integral part of movies and TV nowadays - it's not a bad thing if done correctly, it's the natural progression in most cases from matte paintings. Recently watched a period TV series where the London skyline of the early 1800s was CGI'd to the shot - it looked amazing.
Whilst I agree that CGI can be overdone (and it's unfair to single DC out as Marvel are just as guilty) the Superhero genre practically demands it! These are people/beings of fantastic power - it needs effects to show that, practical effects just don't cut-it anymore.
Sure a JL film will be CGI heavy - but let's face it, it's going to be a team of super-powered heroes against a big villain, and possibly his army - practical effects just won't be good enough!

Also addressing your concerns that superhero films are formulaic... well of course they are, but it's the same formula for all action films – Bond, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, the Wild Bunch... they all end with big climactic action set pieces... it's been that way since the dawn of the moving picture. It's not the formulaic ending that's the problem, but how you get to it. If the story's good, you'll buy into it and go with it.

 

[BobJM]

Just a thought/what if, but what if russia nukes one of its own towns to destroy the threat, and it has no effect on it.
Superman couldnt stop the first nuke but we're seeing him stop the next one(s).

This sounds similar to how Wonder Woman was introduced to Batman & Superman in Trinity .

Bizarro causes a missile to detonate in the middle of the ocean (nearby Themiscyra). WW is sent to confront Superman, thinking it was him, about the recklessness of his actions.

 

[Herolee10]

Well if those shots of Henry (dressed in Sith Robes), Wonder Woman (Gal's One and Only Official picture as the character), and Batman being present in some type of area surrounded by huge amounts of rubble, fiery breeze, and dark skies is of any indication, then it seems like Snyder at least created some type of set where everything isn't Green Screen like he had done with Zod and Superman's fight.

 

[antoineflemming]

Well if those shots of Henry (dressed in Sith Robes), Wonder Woman (Gal's One and Only Official picture as the character), and Batman being present in some type of area surrounded by huge amounts of rubble, fiery breeze, and dark skies is of any indication, then it seems like Snyder at least created some type of set where everything isn't Green Screen like he had done with Zod and Superman's fight.

Yep. That's what I think.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Well if those shots of Henry (dressed in Sith Robes), Wonder Woman (Gal's One and Only Official picture as the character), and Batman being present in some type of area surrounded by huge amounts of rubble, fiery breeze, and dark skies is of any indication, then it seems like Snyder at least created some type of set where everything isn't Green Screen like he had done with Zod and Superman's fight.

Zack does have sets made from time to time. Watchmen is a shining example.