BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 2

[STARMAN]

We've already bypassed the fake BvS rumors for the fake Justice League rumors.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I really hope we get some more unannounced cameos and Easter eggs in BvS and Suicide Squad. Those little things make comic book movies so much fun to watch

We have the perfect opportunity in Suicide Squad, when they show Arkham. Hopefully we get a few surprises there.

 

[jokesonm3]

Man of steel had an enormous amount of Easter eggs relating to the wider DC universe before the DCEU even existed, something tells me that Snyder is going to make BvS chock full of Easter eggs from the suicide squad to the justice league and beyond.

 

[Marz69]

While reading that, I'm thinking who the F is Dan Amboyer... Ah, the drone pilot, I get why he's loosely associated with GL.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Man of steel had an enormous amount of Easter eggs relating to the wider DC universe before the DCEU even existed, something tells me that Snyder is going to make BvS chock full of Easter eggs from the suicide squad to the justice league and beyond.

Can't wait for it. I'm hoping Bruce name drops a number of his villains and allies

 

[jokesonm3]

Can't wait for it. I'm hoping Bruce name drops a number of his villains and allies

Batman: "Joker, Cobblepot, Dent, Slade.......none of them even compare to the threat of this alien....... i need to take him down."

 

[McbrideMike]

lol the symbol was backwards cuz it was a reflection, its always backwards, i think its stretching

Yes, it is only simply a reflection. I totally get that and everyone could be wrong. However, why the very specific attention to that particular detail? With Snyder, that does not happen by accident. Not to account for the BvS trailer where batman almost gets obliterated by what seems to be a powerful blast of heat vision. Superman would not try to kill batman like that. As far as Bizarro being a clone of Superman and not Zod, you are right and I don't think they would change that. But, we do know that Lex has kryptonite and there is a scene with Superman kneeling, seemingly helpless, before Lex. So Lex could very well have gotten Superman DNA in that scene and mixed it with Zods. And yes, it would not seem that it would take three heroes to take down a Bizarro Superman clone when Superman was able to take on Zod on his own. But what if Superman was incapacitated by Kryptonite for a portion of the film and the beginning of the fight? That would make sense. Lex wouldnt just let Superman go after he had him succumbed to kryptonite. I think, and admit I could be very wrong, it is Bizarro, and that Wonder Woman and Batman have to step in at the beginning of the fight while Superman regains strength or escapes. Even with Superman in the fight, Bizarro would still be a challenge because... lets face it, he has all of Supermans powers, or at least a version of them, but with no thought process, no emotion, no control, and lets not forget the fact that he is insane. So I do not think it is as far as a stretch as you may think. I also do not believe they would use parasite for their first JL match-up since he is not as well known as the other two options and Snyder wants to get EVERYONES attention with this film.

Again, this is all just my opinion of course. Feel free to bash it away anyone!

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

I'm starting to wish I had never heard the Miller rumor now, because there's no way I won't be bummed if it doesn't happen (that's a lot of negatives, lol)

Miller can really get at that sense of cinematic wonder, though, and thinking about what he could bring to a Supes movie is just... Yeah. I will definitely be bummed if this doesn't happen at some point.

I'm exactly the same as you my friend! I've been trying to forget about it to avoid disappointment but it just keeps popping back into my head! Damn imagination.

 

[WBwins]

Once again here are Faraci rumours so far

Spoiler

Rumour 1
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Batman v Superman opens with Batman's origin and fast forwards to Bruce Wayne coming to Metropolis during the Superman/Zod fight, but that's just setting the stage for that character.

Rumour 2
From there the script turns its attention to Superman heavily, and it examines the implications of Superman in the real world. The main action takes place a couple of years after the end of Man of Steel, and Superman has been busy in the meantime, becoming the hero we know and love. Clark Kent and Lois Lane have moved their relationship forward to the point where they live together. Clark is still working at the Daily Planet, although it's unclear if he's loving his assignments - he's tasked with covering a Metropolis/Gotham football game when he would rather be writing about Batman.

Rumour 3
Very early in the film Lois is in the Middle East following a story when Superman shows up to help her out. This becomes something of an international incident as other nations view Superman as a tool of the United States. China, for instance, doesn't want him in their air space. It's an interesting look at how a being like Superman would be viewed on a global scale.

Rumour 4
What are the lessons that Superman learned from Man of Steel? Some slight spoilers follow.

When Superman confronts a big bad guy and unravels his plot, he tells the villain, "I won't snap your neck, I'm going to take you to prison," an on-the-nose response to criticisms of the first movie. Of course Superman later loses his cool and threatens to break the bad guy's back, so he hasn't quite internalized everything yet.

As for being a protector of the people - when the Doomsday fight starts General Swanwick tells the military that Superman will move the battle away from populated areas because he's a hero, and that's what heroes do. Again, this is a direct response to complaints about the first film. It's also interesting to see that Swanwick, who was tracking Superman with drones at the end of Man of Steel, is such a supporter in this film. It seems that most people - except Lex Luthor and a cautious Batman, who is prepping anti-Superman weapons - believe Superman is a hero.



Rumour 5
James Gordon is dead

Rumour 6
In Batman v Superman Superman is no lackey of the government; if anything many of the world's governments distrust the guy. But it is Superman who goes to Gotham and starts the confrontation... at the behest of Lex Luthor. And unlike The Dark Knight Returns, Superman comes out swinging, pulverizing the Batmobile with one punch. Why would Superman do Lex Luthor's bidding? What is Lex hoping to accomplish? That would be spoiling. But know that when the fight is over, Batman will be able to point to Superman and say, "He started it!"

Rumour 7
Doomsday is in the movie.

Rumour 8
Aquaman is barelypresent, showing up only in a survey of metahumans by Lex Luthor and then again at the very ending, when Batman recruits him for the Justice League (see: Dawn of Justice as the title).Flash,Cyborg are also just small roles.

Rumour 1 and 2 are confirmed to be true now. Rumour 5 seems to be true and the trailer makes it seem Rumour 6 is true as well.

 

[Vaibow]

Yes, it is only simply a reflection. I totally get that and everyone could be wrong. However, why the very specific attention to that particular detail? With Snyder, that does not happen by accident. Not to account for the BvS trailer where batman almost gets obliterated by what seems to be a powerful blast of heat vision. Superman would not try to kill batman like that. As far as Bizarro being a clone of Superman and not Zod, you are right and I don't think they would change that. But, we do know that Lex has kryptonite and there is a scene with Superman kneeling, seemingly helpless, before Lex. So Lex could very well have gotten Superman DNA in that scene and mixed it with Zods. And yes, it would not seem that it would take three heroes to take down a Bizarro Superman clone when Superman was able to take on Zod on his own. But what if Superman was incapacitated by Kryptonite for a portion of the film and the beginning of the fight? That would make sense. Lex wouldnt just let Superman go after he had him succumbed to kryptonite. I think, and admit I could be very wrong, it is Bizarro, and that Wonder Woman and Batman have to step in at the beginning of the fight while Superman regains strength or escapes. Even with Superman in the fight, Bizarro would still be a challenge because... lets face it, he has all of Supermans powers, or at least a version of them, but with no thought process, no emotion, no control, and lets not forget the fact that he is insane. So I do not think it is as far as a stretch as you may think. I also do not believe they would use parasite for their first JL match-up since he is not as well known as the other two options and Snyder wants to get EVERYONES attention with this film.

Again, this is all just my opinion of course. Feel free to bash it away anyone!

what we chatting about here? what's backwards

 

[dhandler01]

I am not sure you know what confirmed means...

 

[dnno1]

Instead of saying "confirmed" it is better to say that we can infer that rumors 1 and 2 are probably true based on the circumstantial evidence revealed from set photos and news reports about the film.

 

[WitchTrialz]

I really hope we get some more unannounced cameos and Easter eggs in BvS and Suicide Squad. Those little things make comic book movies so much fun to watch

We have the perfect opportunity in Suicide Squad, when they show Arkham. Hopefully we get a few surprises there.

I know fans like to bash nolans Rises, but that stinger at the end with Joseph Gordon levitts character really gave me chills. That's probably one of my favorite superhero movie twists.

 

[damian99uk]

Saw a rumour on another site that says the villain won't be a superman or batman villain but one of wonder woman's. If it's true love the idea rather using a braniac or doomsday. Possibly Ares as he has the power that would need the 3 of them to unite together. What do you guys think

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

^... No.

 

[Marz69]

Saw a rumour on another site that says the villain won't be a superman or batman villain but one of wonder woman's. If it's true love the idea rather using a braniac or doomsday. Possibly Ares as he has the power that would need the 3 of them to unite together. What do you guys think

Not feeling that. I want a cohesive story. Not some random 3rd act villain thrown in that comes from nowhere. WW is going to have a small role. Not big enough to tell her story. Not big enough to have her villain fit into the plot. The story will feel disjointed.

Lex luthor is the main villain. BvS is also his story. He must be connected to the 3rd act villain. This way it's more organic and we can see where the creature came from & the how of it.

 

[superboy13]

I know fans like to bash nolans Rises, but that stinger at the end with Joseph Gordon levitts character really gave me chills. That's probably one of my favorite superhero movie twists.

How was that a twist? They were beating you over the head with foreshadowing since the first frame.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Whoever the 2nd villain is I hope they don't reveal him. Just like McNairy, Mulvey and Jena Malone, I want him to stay a secret. We know the main heroes and villain, the rest should be a surprise.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1058940/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t16

 

[matt47]

Agreed.

 

[Dr doomsday]

There is no need to reveal the second villain so far assuming there is one the second trailer gave us so much the next one just needs to focus more on superman then the third and final equally with more wonder woman but that's all we really need. The rumors seem true everything I've heard seems to match what we've seen in the trailer.

 

[Vaibow]

How was that a twist? They were beating you over the head with foreshadowing since the first frame.

i had no idea, although in hindsight, it was obvious, why i didn't get it - will never know.

 

[Dr.]

i had no idea, although in hindsight, it was obvious, why i didn't get it - will never know.

Not that obvious. There’s precedent that a cinematic Robin is “problematic” - or at least optional. He didn’t appear (wasn’t even hinted at) in Batman or Batman Returns. And likewise for Batman Begins and TDK. So the notion that a version of “Robin” would be revealed in (literally) the last 5 minutes of TDKR wasn’t, IMO, a foregone conclusion.

 

[Val_Zod]

Whoever the 2nd villain is I hope they don't reveal him. Just like McNairy, Mulvey and Jena Malone, I want him to stay a secret. We know the main heroes and villain, the rest should be a surprise.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1058940/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t16

Yeah, no need to reveal too much. People are already sold by the title alone. I'd like for much of the 3rd act to be left to our imagination until the release.

 

[Vaibow]

Not that obvious. There’s precedent that a cinematic Robin is “problematic” - or at least optional. He didn’t appear (wasn’t even hinted at) in Batman or Batman Returns. And likewise for Batman Begins and TDK. So the notion that a version of “Robin” would be revealed in (literally) the last 5 minutes of TDKR wasn’t, IMO, a foregone conclusion.

When Batman said the line about, next time, wear a mask, i thought it was a subtle nod to Robin.

Although JGL has a young looking face, i didn't have him in the 'teenage' age group that i would have expected Robin to fall under.

When it was revealed, it all clicked. How he was his 'partner' and link to gotham whilst he was away. It was a clever way of doing it, without, doing it.

By that i mean, if he was called Tim Drake/Dick Grayson etc and was just a cop that helped batman, i wouldn't have liked that, just because it felt unfinished.

This way, i appreciated the character, his morality and then boom, it's 'robin' was just neat. Anyways. We shall see what comes nedt

 

[hurley711]

So I am confused with the regard of Clark living with Lois. Pretty much everyone knows but most importantly the government and Perry White and her coworkers that Louis knows who Superman is so the solution is in the second movie to have them living together?? This is where I have an issue of Goyers MOS story painting them into a corner. It's safe to say the government will be tracking Lois and her actions so having them live together is a big issue for me.

Who is that male living with Lois? His name is Clark Kent he's from Kansas in fact he's from the same town that General Zod attacked, come to think of it he is from the same farm where General Zod ship landed. Odd. Nothing to see here though!