BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread!

[rockandrollsoul]

Film extras are routinely lied to when provided direction. "The President" is a very common stand-in for directing extras when you want gravity, solemnity, and awe in a scene. "Act like The President just walked in and you're meeting him."

All it means is that the parade is a memorial for a very important person.Combined with the smallville funeral scene it pionts to Superman

Very good point! Personally, I have no feeling towards the DoS one way or another, at the moment, because:

A. Right now, it's just speculation.
B. We don't know the context.
C. I want to go into the movie without any preconceived notions.

Out of context, the DoS might seem too early, but who's to say it wouldn't make for an amazing film? Again, that's if it is happening, which is pure speculation.

 

[DeadPresident]

I still say a DoS storyline is a hugely stupid idea this early in the franchise. You don't need him to die to inspire the birth of the League. To have Supes die, then form the league as a result just to have him resurface again is exrtremely cheap and cheesy. And what people are citing as evidence is specious at best. Saying that it being the POTUS' funeral is less beliveable that it being for Supes is reaching.

I feel the same way, him dying now would serve no purpose. Especially in light of JL 1 and 2 already being announced. Pretty much everybody will walk into the theatre knowing there's going to be some explanation for him coming back, so why go down the death route in the first place?

Hopefully it's just faking his death at worst.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I thought Cap's death in The First Avenger was a great scene even though we know he doesn't die.

Same with Kirk in STID

Seeing a character make the decision to sacrifice themselves, seeing what they choose to do or say in their final moments, and the reactions from other characters can make for an effective scene even if you know that they'll come back later on somehow.

I do get if someone wants to see the storyline as it was in the comics when he's already loved by the public, etc, but I'm fine with them drawing from DOS to make something new.

 

[Jekecy]

I feel the same way, him dying now would serve no purpose. Especially in light of JL 1 and 2 already being announced. Pretty much everybody will walk into the theatre knowing there's going to be some explanation for him coming back, so why go down the death route in the first place?

Hopefully it's just faking his death at worst.

The problem is you wouldn't hold a fake funeral around people who are already in on it. No reason to put a show for the ones colluding with you in the first place.

 

[Herolee10]

I thought Cap's death in The First Avenger was a great scene even though we know he doesn't die.

Same with Kirk in STID

Seeing a character make the decision to sacrifice themselves, seeing what they choose to do or say in their final moments, and the reactions from other characters can make for an effective scene even if you know that they'll come back later on somehow.

I do get if someone wants to see the storyline as it was in the comics when he's already loved by the public, etc, but I'm fine with them drawing from DOS to make something new.

True, though in those cases, the characters that were "killed off" were resurrected by the closing of the film. If superman is going to be killed off, I rather he come back by the end of the film than having to wait till jl to see him again. Plus him being resurrected in jl would imply the possibility of hi m not being one of the founding members of the jl

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

True, though in those cases, the characters that were "killed off" were resurrected by the closing of the film.

Yes, and I assume that's what would happen in BvS too if Supes dies.

 

[Bathead]

I bet it's not the president's funeral. I bet it's Superman's funeral. The extras saw a huge elaborate funeral procession, but they don't know the details of the script, so to keep it a secret they were told it was the president, because honestly if Superman had a funeral it would look the same as the president's.

You don't know that. You're totally guessing that's what's going on here.

 

[Bathead]

Film extras are routinely lied to when provided direction. "The President" is a very common stand-in for directing extras when you want gravity, solemnity, and awe in a scene. "Act like The President just walked in and you're meeting him."

All it means is that the parade is a memorial for a very important person.Combined with the smallville funeral scene it pionts to Superman

Really? You know for a fact this is a regular occurrence? Screw that, how do you know for a fact that is what's going on in this particular instance?
Answer: You don't.
It's just as likely that it is indeed a funeral for the President as it is for Superman, we don't know either way at this point. As far as any kind of services being held in Smallville, if the only two people in the world who knows Superman and Clark are the same person are Lois and Ma Kent, why the hell would there be a public funeral in Smallville for Superman? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

[fake]

Nvm

 

[Charlatan]

The problem is you wouldn't hold a fake funeral around people who are already in on it. No reason to put a show for the ones colluding with you in the first place.

not everyone there has to be "in on it"
also others could be watching.
you have to make it look real. not having one would tip them off.

 

[Charlatan]

Really? You know for a fact this is a regular occurrence? Screw that, how do you know for a fact that is what's going on in this particular instance?
Answer: You don't.
It's just as likely that it is indeed a funeral for the President as it is for Superman, we don't know either way at this point. As far as any kind of services being held in Smallville, if the only two people in the world who knows Superman and Clark are the same person are Lois and Ma Kent, why the hell would there be a public funeral in Smallville for Superman? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Because if Supes is dead so is Clark. Therefore you'd need 2 funerals. One for Supes (the big one in Metropolis with the green screens and parades) and the one for Clark in Smallville.

 

[SpideyFan866]

The problem is you wouldn't hold a fake funeral around people who are already in on it. No reason to put a show for the ones colluding with you in the first place.

That's assuming that anyone outside of Bruce would know he's alive.

And odds are, they wouldn't.

 

[Bathead]

Because if Supes is dead so is Clark. Therefore you'd need 2 funerals. One for Supes (the big one in Metropolis with the green screens and parades) and the one for Clark in Smallville.

How about this scenario? The one funeral for the President reminds Clark of his father's funeral, the funeral in Smallville could be a flashback to that. Again, my point being we don't know positively that all of this means Superman is dead (faked or otherwise), it's too early to call .

 

[Mandon Knight]

Speculation from other sites that Jim Gordon to appear in DoJ....

 

[Fallen Angel]

Speculation from other sites that Jim Gordon to appear in DoJ....

Considering they're filming Daily Planet scene's now ...so nope. Its' from CBM and they're speculating because one of the card says' "JiM".

From Batman News.

http://batman-news.com/2014/11/06/e...-justice-set-photos-reveal-daily-planet-prep/

Also some other random signs for characters like “Sage”, “Card”, and “Jim”

 

[Mandon Knight]

I know, but would make perfect sense to have Gordon in the film... fingers crossed.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Considering they're filming Daily Planet scene's now ...so nope. Its' from CBM and they're speculating because one of the card says' "JiM".

From Batman News.

http://batman-news.com/2014/11/06/e...-justice-set-photos-reveal-daily-planet-prep/

Also some other random signs for characters like “Sage”, “Card”, and “Jim”

someone saying the joker due to appear due to the 'card', we are really are desperate people.... t:

 

[Rorschach2012]

Sage and Milo was the BVS working title...


making some huge leaps here but it's possible
Sage I'd assume would be for Batman
Jim=Gordon
Card=Joker

huge leap and incredibly unlikely

 

[fake]

Jim could just be Jimmy Olsen. No idea who would be Card, but Sage would be Superman or Batman (Sage and Milo is the working title)

 

[Mandon Knight]

Sage and Milo was the BVS working title...


making some huge leaps here but it's possible
Sage I'd assume would be for Batman
Jim=Gordon
Card=Joker

huge leap and incredibly unlikely

Milo and Stitched Up would be more appropiate...

 

[batmanao23]

Some people are hoping that Sage refers to the Question.

 

[Herolee10]

Hell, I'm still curious as to whether there was any truth to the rumor of Diana and Bruce being an item/semi-love interests to each other in this film.lol

 

[Charlatan]

How about this scenario? The one funeral for the President reminds Clark of his father's funeral, the funeral in Smallville could be a flashback to that. Again, my point being we don't know positively that all of this means Superman is dead (faked or otherwise), it's too early to call .

why would Bruce,Lois and Perry be at Pa Kent's funeral?
He was ten years from working at the Planet. It's either Ma Kent or Clark or some dream sequence.

 

[Herolee10]

I mentioned this before, but if Clark was really dead....then why wouldn't Diana and Alfred be present at any of his funerals? Doesn't make sense for them to be absent as well.

 

[BravoNolanILuvU]

What if [BLACKOUT]Alfred[/BLACKOUT] killed him?

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