The Cage Powered Ghost Rider: SoV Box Office poll!

[Snikt]

Wayyyyy out of proportion, they do the same thing to Iron Man 2 just not as extreme.

I think people tend to do this to A LOT of movies; especially comicbook/superhero films.

It takes a lot for me to hate a movie. I just have varying degrees of enjoyment with films.

I enjoyed Ghost Rider 2, Punisher: War Zone, X-Men 3 and Spider-Man 3. But of these four, I rank them in this order:

X3, Punisher: War Zone, Spider-Man 3 and Ghost Rider 2. I'm just a fan of movies in general.

I respect everyone's opinion. But I can enjoy movies such as Aliens, The Departed and The Descendents as well as brainless movies like Crank and Transformers.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Wayyyyy out of proportion, they do the same thing to Iron Man 2 just not as extreme.

I absolutely LOVED TIH...so much so that I bought it..twice. I have a DVD copy and now a Blu-Ray copy. Watching that movie with a surround sound system is just awesome.

 

[BigThor]

I absolutely LOVED TIH...so much so that I bought it..twice. I have a DVD copy and now a Blu-Ray copy. Watching that movie with a surround sound system is just awesome.

I love TIH as well, it's a pretty underrated film in my opinion.

 

[rayc1971]

Comic book films need to do better domestically than overseas. Spiderman 3 has made the most money of any comic film overseas yet it is seen as a failure.

true the domestic number is where the sequel will hppen or not! its funny when a movie is doing bad people ignore the domestic number nd throw the worldwide or overseas number at you!

 

[BigThor]

true the domestic number is where the sequel will hppen or not! its funny when a movie is doing bad people ignore the domestic number nd throw the worldwide or overseas number at you!

No

Studios recieve around 45% of the foreign grosses and 55% of the domestic grosses nowadays, several films have sequels that are made because of phenomenal foreign grosses.

 

[rayc1971]

No

Studios recieve around 45% of the foreign grosses and 55% of the domestic grosses nowadays, several films have sequels that are made because of phenomenal foreign grosses.

thats true for some films like terminator 3 and mi3. but look at the golden compass did well foriegn gross did bad domestic gross no sequels! green lantern bad domestic gross sequel not happening.i will give you tin tin because the foriegn gross is phenomenal but ghostrider is done until they reboot it down the line!

 

[BigThor]

thats true for some films like terminator 3 and mi3. but look at the golden compass did well foriegn gross did bad domestic gross no sequels! green lantern bad domestic gross sequel not happening.i will give you tin tin because the foriegn gross is phenomenal but ghostrider is done until they reboot it down the line!

That's fine by me, since I actually want to see a Ghost Rider film that is recieved postively by the critics & GA.

 

[rayc1971]

That's fine by me, since I actually want to see a Ghost Rider film that is recieved postively by the critics & GA.

agreed! we need a rated r version with a good script and director!

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

45 Million Domestic so far. 57 Million International.

Please god I hope there are no more sequels.

 

[rayc1971]

45 Million Domestic so far. 57 Million International.

Please god I hope there are no more sequels.

i think we are safe at this point! they might reboot down the road another 5 years!

 

[actionavenue]

Hear ye hear ye! With our movie debuting in theatres everywhere JUST NEXT WEEK, I think it's time we all officially weigh in on how much this bad boy will make!

Now, this is for the ENTIRE DOMESTIC THEATRICAL RUN, so we aren't factoring in DVD sales, or worldwide sales. We can follow the fun on sites like Box Office Mojo. Now vote!

I voted for the $31 to 50M. Look, I like Ghost Rider. In fact, I am one of the few people I know in my circle who didn't hate the first movie. That being said, GR does not have the broad appeal that other characters do, like say, Spiderman, Batman or Captain America.
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[CaptainCraig]

45 Million Domestic so far. 57 Million International.

Please god I hope there are no more sequels.

I wouldn't say that just yet.
It's worldwide total is now $103.4m with more to come on both domestic and international fronts.

There is probably another $5-8m domestic in the tank and twice that internationally.

Would Cage push for another film though if Sony is wavering on sequel, reboot or let the rights go?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Domestic is a lot more important than international still though. The influence of international numbers is growing but domestic is still prime when it comes to deciding sequels.

Cage would probably go for another one as he is a big fan of the character, but I personally dont want Sony to bother anymore.

 

[CaptainCraig]

Domestic does not still hold that power. I'd say it's a case by case basis but Domestic has long since stopped being "a lot more important". There wouldn't be a Narnia franchise if that were true, nor would Resident Evil have kept going. Underworld looks to be falling into that camp also now but we very, very likely will get another one there also.

Not saying International will turn the tide or keep it going at Sony in some form but domestic is no longer "a lot more important".

 

[Snikt]

Domestic does not still hold that power. I'd say it's a case by case basis but Domestic has long since stopped being "a lot more important". There wouldn't be a Narnia franchise if that were true, nor would Resident Evil have kept going. Underworld looks to be falling into that camp also now but we very, very likely will get another one there also.

Not saying International will turn the tide or keep it going at Sony in some form but domestic is no longer "a lot more important".

Agreed. Look at Real steel. People liked it, but it took in $85 million domestic. But when you add international, it took in close to $300 million.

International has become very important.

 

[BigThor]

Domestic does not still hold that power. I'd say it's a case by case basis but Domestic has long since stopped being "a lot more important". There wouldn't be a Narnia franchise if that were true, nor would Resident Evil have kept going. Underworld looks to be falling into that camp also now but we very, very likely will get another one there also.

Not saying International will turn the tide or keep it going at Sony in some form but domestic is no longer "a lot more important".

Yeah studios get around 45% of internation grosses and 55% from domestic grosses, so they're both very important especially if the international gross is much higher than the domestic gross.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Domestic does not still hold that power. I'd say it's a case by case basis but Domestic has long since stopped being "a lot more important". There wouldn't be a Narnia franchise if that were true, nor would Resident Evil have kept going. Underworld looks to be falling into that camp also now but we very, very likely will get another one there also.

Not saying International will turn the tide or keep it going at Sony in some form but domestic is no longer "a lot more important".

I think you are uner-valueing DVD/BD sales with those franchises though. No sequels for those movies were confirmed until the DVD/BD had been out for a few weeks.

Agreed. Look at Real steel. People liked it, but it took in $85 million domestic. But when you add international, it took in close to $300 million.

International has become very important.

But do you hear any news of a Real Steel sequel? Nope, DVD/BD sales have been excellent and still there is no news of one. I loved RS and would love to see another one but there hasnt been anything.

 

[Snikt]

They're already writing a script. But it depends on Hugh Jackman, cuz apparently he's got a busy schedule

 

[CaptainCraig]

I think you are uner-valueing DVD/BD sales with those franchises though. No sequels for those movies were confirmed until the DVD/BD had been out for a few weeks.

You are moving the goal posts, trying salvage your 'point'.
You are adding a new qualifer to our discussion.

For Narnia you are right, DVD sales had been out for awhile before Fox agreed to pick up the franchise from Disney.

For Resident Evil though that wasn't the case. A fifth film was announced, and script underway before it went to DVD. Milla's twitter feed was all about it.

Ghost Rider doing well internationally is going to give SONY options. They may wait for DVD sales as further support BUT international numbers will be what allows a sequel or reboot to even be on the table for discussion in the first place.
A) Do a third, the decide to keep/reboot after a trilogy wrap
B) Reboot now in the 5yr window
C) Let it fall back to Marvel seems unlikely at this point

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

They're already writing a script. But it depends on Hugh Jackman, cuz apparently he's got a busy schedule

Really? Well thats awesome, love that movie, I have been looking for sequel news and couldnt find any.

You are moving the goal posts, trying salvage your 'point'.
You are adding a new qualifer to our discussion.

For Narnia you are right, DVD sales had been out for awhile before Fox agreed to pick up the franchise from Disney.

For Resident Evil though that wasn't the case. A fifth film was announced, and script underway before it went to DVD. Milla's twitter feed was all about it.

Ghost Rider doing well internationally is going to give SONY options. They may wait for DVD sales as further support BUT international numbers will be what allows a sequel or reboot to even be on the table for discussion in the first place.
A) Do a third, the decide to keep/reboot after a trilogy wrap
B) Reboot now in the 5yr window
C) Let it fall back to Marvel seems unlikely at this point

The Resident Evil movies are extremely low budget, lower than even GR:SOV as far as I believe so that may also be a factor. DVD/BD ARE a big factor for studio's regarding sequels, they have been for a while and plenty of movies have gotten sequels solely based on them. But rather than keep arguing on this, we'll see what happens. Personally unless the current international numbers more than double I dont see us getting another movie. Which considering Sony's attitude towards the franchise isnt the saddest news.

 

[Snikt]

Really? Well thats awesome, love that movie, I have been looking for sequel news and couldnt find any.

Here's the link for you t:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...teel_sequel_fantastic_voyage_and_frankenstein

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Thanks for the link, but you do realise that this article is from BEFORE the movie was released dont you?

Lots of movies start writing sequels before the release of the first movie but plenty get scrapped because of the BO. Green Lantern being a very recent one.

 

[Snikt]

^Thanks for the link, but you do realise that this article is from BEFORE the movie was released dont you?

Lots of movies start writing sequels before the release of the first movie but plenty get scrapped because of the BO. Green Lantern being a very recent one.

I do. But the movie did very well. Plus, that time of year was pretty slow for films in general. I remember reading September, October and November had record lows as far as attendance goes.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Well the fact we have heard nothing about a sequel since doesnt fill me with confidence. I hope we get an RS2 as I loved the movie, but no announcement by now isnt a good thing.

 

[CaptainCraig]

Well in it's 4th weekend GR:SOV finally fell out of the top 10 but it did raise it's domestic total to $48m and WorldWide total up to $105m. International updates on Tuesday should be interesting to see.