Legends of Tomorrow The Caity Lotz IS White Canary/Sara Lance Thread

[kane9321]

 

[godisawesome]

She wasn't BC in role, title, m.o. or backstory. Have a very great day you and everyone!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

But she was in fighting ability, look, chemistry with the other characters, and was pretty definitively hyped up as Black Canary before we found out who she was.

And she wasn't any less Black Canary than her sister wound up being, considering how they refused to call her by her traditional name, never made her a meta human, botched her for two and a half seasons, than killed her off just when they had her going good. And spending some of that time trying to bury Sara's initial push as a Black Canary by repeatedly insisting she was only ever the Canary is like trying to convince Tim Drake fans that he's always been Red Robin and never Robin in the New 52; if it looks, fights, and acts as a classic superhero, than its that classic superhero.

Though if you want to argue that Laurel was the damsel in distress Canary that kept on popping up in badly written Green Arrow arcs while Sara was the ubër badass from Birds of Prey and JLA, that'd be accurate.

 

[Batsfan1]

But she was in fighting ability, look, chemistry with the other characters, and was pretty definitively hyped up as Black Canary before we found out who she was.

Fighting ability, look, chemistry and hype aren't relevant to the character. Partially because the character has had many looks, fighting ability is done in steps and isn't characterization and chemistry is subjective, it has no meaning to anything.

And she wasn't any less Black Canary than her sister wound up being, considering how they refused to call her by her traditional name, never made her a meta human, botched her for two and a half seasons, than killed her off just when they had her going good. And spending some of that time trying to bury Sara's initial push as a Black Canary by repeatedly insisting she was only ever the Canary is like trying to convince Tim Drake fans that he's always been Red Robin and never Robin in the New 52; if it looks, fights, and acts as a classic superhero, than its that classic superhero.

She had the backstory, basic m.o., full name and codename, despite her full name being rarely used. BC should have been a meta, but that define anything against her as a character. She hasn't always had one in the comics. If a Catwoman tv series introduced Bruce Wayne and then introduced his brother Victor Wayne, who had a vigilante identity the Bat, never saw his parents murdered in front of him and murders people themself, but does dress up like Batman and fights better than Bruce, would he be Batman? He wouldn't.

Though if you want to argue that Laurel was the damsel in distress Canary that kept on popping up in badly written Green Arrow arcs while Sara was the ubër badass from Birds of Prey and JLA, that'd be accurate.

I don't see murder as being bad that word. There's nothing shameful about being in distress. That's macho nonsense. Fighting back and not winning and fighting even when you can't win is something I will never find shameful or lesser than serial murder, like you seem to be implying. Have a very great day you and everyone!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

 

[Sara Lance]

To me Sara Lance will always be the real Black Cannary. I don't really give a **** about comic book names or whatever. For me Laurel was a failure as a character. And this both on the writers who for years jerked Laurel around and on Katie Cassidy who had virtually no chemistry with any of the cast and seemed be bored most of the time in this

I honestly believe that the only reason they kept her on for so long was because Katie Cassidy had signed some iron clad contract at the stat of the show that guaranteed her at least four season and playing a hero. Because the decision to kill Sara Lance and not just kill her but do it in such a goddamn stupid humiliating way made utterly no sense and was obviously just an incredibly incompetent way to raise Laurel by having her step on Sara's corpse

So yeah. For me Sara will always remain the real Black Cannary. She was dripping with charisma. She had wonderful chemistry with every single member. Hell she had more chemistry with the team in five minutes then Laurel or *eye roll* Roy did in years. I really wished they simply had Sara disappear, maybe have her sucked in some of those exotic events that constantly happen in Flash only to return later on with powers. if they wanted to make place for Laure's attempt at shining

Hell they could have sent her to the Supergirl universe. Kara and Sara being best friends would have been amazing

And again instead of killing Laurel they could have simply sent her away like they did Roy. To me the big problem was her utter lack with the cast. If they let her have her own adventures in another city with another crew one that actually has chemistry with Katie Cassidy this could have worked much better

 

[Syncos]

So yeah. For me Sara will always remain the real Black Cannary. She was dripping with charisma. She had wonderful chemistry with every single member. Hell she had more chemistry with the team in five minutes then Laurel or *eye roll* Roy did in years. I really wished they simply had Sara disappear, maybe have her sucked in some of those exotic events that constantly happen in Flash only to return later on with powers. if they wanted to make place for Laure's attempt at shining

I don't at all feel that Sara is a better character than Laurel. I also don't believe she had more chemistry.

She was fun, because she had no depth. She showed up to be a badass and everything was super effortless for her. She and Oliver were basically the same person. Except Oliver was torn apart by his past. Sara didn't really seem to care.
She never really seemed to bond much with the rest of the cast.

Legends made her a great character, that had some depth. Possibly the best character on that show.

I will agree with you that killing her off the way they did was a travesty. Especially to just bring her back. What a waste of potential.

 

[Sara Lance]

I don't at all feel that Sara is a better character than Laurel. I also don't believe she had more chemistry.

She was fun, because she had no depth. She showed up to be a badass and everything was super effortless for her. She and Oliver were basically the same person. Except Oliver was torn apart by his past. Sara didn't really seem to care.
She never really seemed to bond much with the rest of the cast.

Legends made her a great character, that had some depth. Possibly the best character on that show.

I will agree with you that killing her off the way they did was a travesty. Especially to just bring her back. What a waste of potential.

We will have to agree to disagree on this. To me the only person Laurel had some chemistry with, that actually didn't seem to be uncomfortable with was Nyssa. With everybody else she just seemed out of place
Sara on the other clicked with everybody from Felicity to Diggle. And although I agree that making her overdramatic like Oliver and pushing her to have sex with him was annoying but she managed to shine despite this. Laurel to me never managed to outshine her bad writing

I guess it's down to individual perception

 

[Batsfan1]

To me Sara Lance will always be the real Black Cannary. I don't really give a **** about comic book names or whatever. For me Laurel was a failure as a character. And this both on the writers who for years jerked Laurel around and on Katie Cassidy who had virtually no chemistry with any of the cast and seemed be bored most of the time in this

I honestly believe that the only reason they kept her on for so long was because Katie Cassidy had signed some iron clad contract at the stat of the show that guaranteed her at least four season and playing a hero. Because the decision to kill Sara Lance and not just kill her but do it in such a goddamn stupid humiliating way made utterly no sense and was obviously just an incredibly incompetent way to raise Laurel by having her step on Sara's corpse

So yeah. For me Sara will always remain the real Black Cannary. She was dripping with charisma. She had wonderful chemistry with every single member. Hell she had more chemistry with the team in five minutes then Laurel or *eye roll* Roy did in years. I really wished they simply had Sara disappear, maybe have her sucked in some of those exotic events that constantly happen in Flash only to return later on with powers. if they wanted to make place for Laure's attempt at shining

Hell they could have sent her to the Supergirl universe. Kara and Sara being best friends would have been amazing

And again instead of killing Laurel they could have simply sent her away like they did Roy. To me the big problem was her utter lack with the cast. If they let her have her own adventures in another city with another crew one that actually has chemistry with Katie Cassidy this could have worked much better

If you don't care about the comics, then you have no reason to think of Sara as Black Canary in any way. Because BC is a comic title, one that Sara never went by, so she can't be the real Black Canary, because she wasn't the Black Canary ever, so, you don't want BC. You want a character that isn't BC in title, name, m.o. or backstory. And you can't blame an actor or actress for chemistry that you perceive to not be there, because chemistry is an opinion. Have a very great day you and everyone!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

 

[Sara Lance]

If you don't care about the comics, then you have no reason to think of Sara as Black Canary in any way. Because BC is a comic title, one that Sara never went by, so she can't be the real Black Canary, because she wasn't the Black Canary ever, so, you don't want BC. You want a character that isn't BC in title, name, m.o. or backstory. And you can't blame an actor or actress for chemistry that you perceive to not be there, because chemistry is an opinion. Have a very great day you and everyone!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

My reason is because the way the show went about it. The crappy writers made Laurel essentially rip off her sister's identify under the guise of a tribute. To me it was incredibly poorly handled. If they wanted Laurel to be her own hero they shouldn't given the look to Sara first

That doesn't make sense. Apart from some objective scientific facts everything is an opinion. By this logic we can't blame anyone for anything

 

[Paradox1]

My reason is because the way the show went about it. The crappy writers made Laurel essentially rip off her sister's identify under the guise of a tribute. To me it was incredibly poorly handled. If they wanted Laurel to be her own hero they shouldn't given the look to Sara first

That doesn't make sense. Apart from some objective scientific facts everything is an opinion. By this logic we can't blame anyone for anything

When they first started the show they had no idea the world would get so big and the mythology would dig so deep. If they had known I think they would of handled things different. Sara being the inspiration for Laurel to dawn the mask is a paying homage to the first Black Canary, Laurel's mother in the comics

I have to agree with the other posters above Sara can never be the BC. Having the name, the black costume , and having a sonic device does not make you the Black Canary. Many folks have had the name Batman just like many have been Captain America but there is only one Steve Rogers and one Bruce Wayne like there is one Dinah Laurel Lance. Everyone else is the flavor of the month trying to fit into their shoes.

 

[Sara Lance]

When they first started the show they had no idea the world would get so big and the mythology would dig so deep. If they had known I think they would of handled things different. Sara being the inspiration for Laurel to dawn the mask is a paying homage to the first Black Canary, Laurel's mother in the comics

I have to agree with the other posters above Sara can never be the BC. Having the name, the black costume , and having a sonic device does not make you the Black Canary. Many folks have had the name Batman just like many have been Captain America but there is only one Steve Rogers and one Bruce Wayne like there is one Dinah Laurel Lance. Everyone else is the flavor of the month trying to fit into their shoes.

I don't think Black Cannary was ever that big to deserve this comparison. To me she seems as interchangeable as James Bond. The "title" remains but anybody can play it. In fact I am like 90% sure that if it wasn't for some contractual obligation with Katie Cassidy the writers would have suddenly remembred that oh wait no Sara's is her middle name , her first name is Dinah and made her the Black Cannary permanently

 

[Paradox1]

I don't think Black Cannary was ever that big to deserve this comparison. To me she seems as interchangeable as James Bond. The "title" remains but anybody can play it. In fact I am like 90% sure that if it wasn't for some contractual obligation with Katie Cassidy the writers would have suddenly remembred that oh wait no Sara's is her middle name , her first name is Dinah and made her the Black Cannary permanently

She deserves that comparison because wherever the Black Camary has showed up in comics, video games, tv shows, cartoons and soon movies. They will all be or have been Dinah Laurel Lance. Arrow is outlier, nowhere else will another Camary ever exist.

 

[Sara Lance]

She deserves that comparison because wherever the Black Camary has showed up in comics, video games, tv shows, cartoons and soon movies. They will all be or have been Dinah Laurel Lance. Arrow is outlier, nowhere else will another Camary ever exist.

The only place I have seen her(and I am guessing the vast majority of people) is the cartoons. And I have not heard them ever call her Laurel. It has always been Dinah. And anybody can easily switch a middle name.

Black Cannary simply isn't big enough for any significant amount of people to care about her alter ego. She can be exchanged at any time and the general audience wouldn't care at all

In fact I am pretty sure that the vast majority(and if we take my obvious biase aside we can lower this simply to the majority) of the general audience would prefer it if Sara was the official Black Cannary and Laurel had been cut off so early.

 

[Sara Lance]

I just saw this gif and I had to post it. Jesus she is stunning

 

[Primal Slayer]

Roomies

 

[Syncos]

The only place I have seen her(and I am guessing the vast majority of people) is the cartoons. And I have not heard them ever call her Laurel. It has always been Dinah. And anybody can easily switch a middle name.

Black Cannary simply isn't big enough for any significant amount of people to care about her alter ego. She can be exchanged at any time and the general audience wouldn't care at all

In fact I am pretty sure that the vast majority(and if we take my obvious biase aside we can lower this simply to the majority) of the general audience would prefer it if Sara was the official Black Cannary and Laurel had been cut off so early.

If you don't think the character is important enough for names to matter, then why do you want Sara to be Black Canary so bad? It's not her name, She never went by it, She doesn't fit the characterization. Let her be her own character. She's better this way.

Read a Black Canary book, before you decide what's best for the character.

 

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[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Dayum she fine!

 

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[ohiostate124]

I just saw this gif and I had to post it. Jesus she is stunning

Apparently she is a white walker

 

[Bastila]

It's a shame she won't have anymore screen time with Katie. The canary sisters was awesome.
Hope Katrina comes back into LOT. Them two so cute.

 

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