The Cape

[Dave McFly]

I am only watching it for Summer Glau .

 

[XBRoughneck]

Not looking to nitpick, was actually trying to like the show. but the flaws in this thing are pretty blatant.

Agreed. I'm trying to like the show. I think it's well cast and the IDEA of the show should stick. It "should" be the kinda show that people would go...."yeah, I'm going to watch the CAPE tonight"

Unfortunately of the 3 episodes that aired, the only good one was the second.

Last night's episode seem small. The ending was VERY anti climatic.

The antagonist was good, but the show made him very small. VERY easy to beat.

Everything about this show is starting to seem very rushed and not very well thought out.

Lead actor is physical and shows passion for the role.
Villians...have good personality
I think his wife is hot.
I believe he misses his family.

But...the circus stuff (tired, and doesn't make much sense)
Girl that helps him (why?)
The CAPE itself? Seriously...I don't need the CAPE he wears to be special. It could be nothing more than a regular black cape the could...say, stop bullets because of the material it's made of. I want the HERO to be the hero. Not what he's wearing.

 

[BlackLantern]

most kids today don't even know what the circus is

 

[XBRoughneck]

I am only watching it for Summer Glau .

I still don't get why anyone thinks she's special. I thought she was ok in Firefly ...average as a terminator.

 

[Doc Ock]

I still don't get why anyone thinks she's special. I thought she was ok in Firefly ...average as a terminator.

Because she is sci-fi awesomeness.

 

[BlackLantern]

who can't keep a job....she's been on 3 shows so far, counting the Cape

and none of them have lasted longer than 2 seasons

 

[Dugath]

I love a good super hero tv show. But this is not one of them.
There is just too much cheese in this show. The cape (outfit not the character) looks horrible, bad CGI. It is just way too unbelievable.

This show who have been better if they went for a more real type of cape.
Even if (as someone suggested) it was bullet proof or something, of course with the thinness of the cape even stopping bullets would probably lead so some impact injures from the bullets themselves like broken bones and such..

Sorry rambled..

They should have been more real with this show, have the hero be the hero because of the man not because of the cape.

I do not see this show going past another month.

 

[Firm18]

Summer Glau <3

I love how every villain so far isn't american....

 

[HELL N' SPIDERS]

I think it's interesting, but way too cheesy.
And I hate Orwell.

 

[Siby]

I still don't get why anyone thinks she's special. I thought she was ok in Firefly ...average as a terminator.

I don't understand this either. So many people rave about her acting or how hot she is and neither of them is really that great to me.

Summer Glau is more like scifi albatross. She is the doom of every show she is on. lol (I'm only half serious about this. I'm sure the shows she was on failed because of other problems and not solely because of her.)

The other actress I find unwatchable, on her own, is Eliza Dukshu, the second vampire slayer from Buffy.

 

[O_B_Juan]

Anbody think if the show lasts long enough, that the Cape will get a sidekick? Maybe his son?

 

[BlackLantern]

Anbody think if the show lasts long enough, that the Cape will get a sidekick? Maybe his son?

oh, that's a good one....you're a funny guy

 

[Sensi]

I still don't get why anyone thinks she's special. I thought she was ok in Firefly ...average as a terminator.

I agree and so far not the greatest in The Cape.

 

[mr. peasant]

Either I'm getting used to the writing/editting but I thought this episode was easily the best. There was actual tension and progression in the various subplots. Plus, Vinnie Jones was, as usual, awesome.

Spoiler

My only quibble is they didn't show/mention Fleming making a meal of his saving the day (which, the media almost certainly would); especially since the reason he's on the train in the first place was as a publicity to humanise his image in the public's eye. It would've also provided Faraday even more aggravation since he set things in motion to expose Fleming as Chess and instead wound up making him look like a hero. That said, very minor quibble.

 

[Dr Lee]

I have to say the Scales backstory could be intriguing....

 

[GhostPoet]

How are the ratings for this show?

 

[BlackLantern]

for NBC, meh in tv as a whole...crappy....and the reviews haven't been kind

so I wouldn't expect tonights show to break 7 million

 

[Lord Valumart]

Enjoyed that episode a lot. After a bit of a dud start it might be on to something. I look forward to learning more about Scales and seeing where his plot goes. It could keep getting better from here so here's hoping it does and we get more cause I'm willing to kill a lot of kittens if this keeps going (if no one gets that look at BlackLantern's sig)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I've decided as of "Kozmo" that I like this show. Still has a lot of problems, but I think it's got a lot of potential. I'm looking forward to whenever they reveal that Orwell is Chess' daughter--that's a storyline I can't wait to get into.

 

[Lord Valumart]

Damn you Corp... It's so obvious once someone actually says it...

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I know I'm a week late (and the fourth episode will be on tonight), but I just watched the third episode "Kozmo" on NBC.com. It wasn't brilliant, and the writing still had several flaws, but it was a BIG step up from the two-part premiere.

What I liked:
1. The pacing and general competence of the writing and directing. The premiere was RUSHED and everyone felt it. The way those first two episodes flowed was very poor. However, "Kozmo" slowed things down a bit, and built on what had been previously established. It felt like a real, decent show that belonged on TV.

2. More development on Fleming/Chess. By the end of the episode he's obviously Orwell's father. He didn't do much but now I see that they're going to do things with this character. Which is a good thing, because one thing that I thought the premiere should've done was explain why he still keeps dressing up as Chess despite killing off that identity on TV.

3. The family drama and angst. This was the best thing about this episode. That scene where he's hiding in the shadows, waiting to protect his wife only to see her perfectly safe and being hit on by another man was terrific. I also liked that last scene with his son. Where he tries to inspire the boy with some line straight out of the comic, but his fanboy son even thinks he's being cheesy. Nice bit of humor there, with some heart.

4. The wife was HOT. I thought she looked good in the premiere, but in this episode, wow. She held her own against Summer Glau.

5. The villain, Gregor/Kozmo, was an improvement over what we saw before. He was by no means perfect, but at least he didn't come across as a complete chump who could get beat up by midgets and girls.

6. They hinted at the cape being more than just some strong, well-sewn cloth, mentioning legends about it being used by priests and alchemists. It wasn't much, and all of it thankfully stayed offscreen, but it went a long way toward making the cape's feats seem more believable. Because the way it just stretches out twenty feet or more is way too much for a mundane explanation like "spider silk."

What I didn't like:
1. Vince really should've been more supportive of Orwell. The poor girl comes to him after almost murdered, with her own house burned down. All he does is act like a jerk to her and complain about how she's not completely open about her past with him. Isn't he supposed to be an upstanding, old school superhero? That wasn't very heroic of him.

2. So Max and the carnies are real carnies now, and put on shows for the public? It looks to me like the show is trying not to acknowledge that bank robber stuff from the premiere. Because it makes no sense whatsoever for a gang of bank robbers to advertise themselves to the public like that. Or Fleming, for that matter. Remember how Chess had Max captured, beaten, and almost killed? Why aren't they on the run?

This apparent new direction of them being a real circus is an improvement, but that bank robber stuff should have never happened. They could've done the whole mentor thing with Max without that unnecessary criminal element. At most he should be a former, reformed criminal, as he seemed like in this episode.

3. Orwell was adamant about not being seen by the carnival just in the last episode, but here she reveals herself to them just to hang out? What?

4. Gregor's ability to read people came out of nowhere, and wasn't explained. He read things too well, without any indication of how he could know all of these things. At least mention the clues he noticed to show that he's just really deductive, not just knowing all of those things because the writers let him.

5. The fight could've been better. Gregor is supposed to be as skilled, if not more so than Vince. Vince can barely do anything...then all of a sudden he just chokes the guy out? Anticlimatic. They need to invest more into fight choreography.


So while the show still isn't GREAT, it did show a huge step up from the premiere. After the first two episodes, I put The Cape on notice. If the third episode had sucked as much, I would've been done with it. Well, the show has survived, and I guess I'll watch it for however long it lasts...which may not be that long since I hear the ratings for "Kozmo" weren't very good either. It's a shame since "Kozmo," a normal episode, is probably more representative of the show's quality than the premiere.

Just goes to show how important first impressions are. They really needed a premiere that was better than the one they put out.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn you Corp... It's so obvious once someone actually says it...

Well, in fairness, it was really obvious when they casually had Chess throw out the fact that he has a daughter and then spent the whole rest of the episode harping on this subplot that Orwell's mysterious and has daddy issues.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

Not to mention that shot near the end when they had Fleming watching that spinning figurine, then cutting immediately to Orwell spinning on those ribbons at the circus.

They made it very blatant. It's supposed to be a mystery for the characters, not for the viewers.

 

[mr. peasant]

6. They hinted at the cape being more than just some strong, well-sewn cloth, mentioning legends about it being used by priests and alchemists. It wasn't much, and all of it thankfully stayed offscreen, but it went a long way toward making the cape's feats seem more believable. Because the way it just stretches out twenty feet or more is way too much for a mundane explanation like "spider silk."

I completely agree. It was a well placed 'cop-out' (in an entirely good way). The official in-universe explanation for the cape's fantastical properties is because of its unique design and material. Yet, for those unsatisfied and are looking for some more mystical, they associate the cape with a string of legends; thereby giving it a slight magical air for those who want it. And for those who don't magic, they then brush it off as being stories and exaggerations. Everyone's satisfied.

1. Vince really should've been more supportive of Orwell. The poor girl comes to him after almost murdered, with her own house burned down. All he does is act like a jerk to her and complain about how she's not completely open about her past with him. Isn't he supposed to be an upstanding, old school superhero? That wasn't very heroic of him.

Despite his name, I don't think he's supposed to be purely a Cape. Rather, due to his angst and inner turmoil, he is/will be straddling between that and being an Anti-Hero.

Not to mention that shot near the end when they had Fleming watching that spinning figurine, then cutting immediately to Orwell spinning on those ribbons at the circus.

They made it very blatant. It's supposed to be a mystery for the characters, not for the viewers.

More like lead viewers to highly suspect it but only confirm it later on. Or perhaps, they might throw in a surprise twist? Maybe Orwell's father is actually Scales!!

 

[wiegeabo]

What I didn't like:

2. So Max and the carnies are real carnies now, and put on shows for the public? It looks to me like the show is trying not to acknowledge that bank robber stuff from the premiere. Because it makes no sense whatsoever for a gang of bank robbers to advertise themselves to the public like that. Or Fleming, for that matter. Remember how Chess had Max captured, beaten, and almost killed? Why aren't they on the run?

This apparent new direction of them being a real circus is an improvement, but that bank robber stuff should have never happened. They could've done the whole mentor thing with Max without that unnecessary criminal element. At most he should be a former, reformed criminal, as he seemed like in this episode.

I thought they were an actual circus. They were a circus that went around robbing banks. But I might have missed something in the pilot.