The Clinton Thread II - Part 2

[Iceman]

The brains are to be found somewhere in the middle.

 

[Victarion]

The brains are dead from lack of tissue perfusion. The sides have spent so much oxygen shouting at one another that the brain's tissues didn't get enough to survive.

 

[chaseter]

I don't think the people using terms like "alt-right" or "ctrl-left" know what they're supposed to mean.

They just don't sound intelligent.

Why can't we just say right-wing and left-wing or regressive left or whatever you want to call them instead of making up cutesy "alt-right vs ctrl-left" BS?

It's like Tumblr where a new sexual orientation/gender identity gets invented every 30 seconds and you can self- identity as a cloud, or a lollipop, or a fragile glistening drop of morning dew, or whatever you want.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

I'm not conforming to your skewed social construct built against candy themed personal identities.

 

[Kelly]

I don't think the people using terms like "alt-right" or "ctrl-left" know what they're supposed to mean.

They just don't sound intelligent.

Why can't we just say right-wing and left-wing or regressive left or whatever you want to call them instead of making up cutesy "alt-right vs ctrl-left" BS?

It's like Tumblr where a new sexual orientation/gender identity gets invented every 30 seconds and you can self- identity as a cloud, or a lollipop, or a fragile glistening drop of morning dew, or whatever you want.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

I'm not conforming to your skewed social construct built against candy themed personal identities.

No one should ever just pop into the conversation and read this.....I was like....."what the hell are you two talking about...." LMAO.....

 

[Legendver2]

Not sure if srs....

I was under the assumption alt-right means alternate-right, and ctrl-left is just an attempt at mocking both sides via keyboard keys...

 

[DeadPresident]

This is correct.

 

[2kt09]

Reporter forgets to ask Hillary of the same thing.
The editing room strikes again (all stations apparently ran with that video edit)

 

[Victarion]

https://***********/regated/status/777638188580036608

That's not the actual audio, is it? I don't see how that gets out.

 

[summerteeth]

I think Clinton is making a mistake trying to recreate the Obama coalition in this election. They just aren't going to show up for her. She needs to create her own coalition right now one that looks more like her husbands. She needs to run more to the right than she is now and I know that's going to make a lot of people on the left angry, but that's what needs to happen to win this election. She needs to come up with a plan to deal with terrorism at home and abroad. We are seeing these terror attempts and attacks far too frequently here at home and it isn't going to be good enough to stay the course. She needs to split from Obama on the way to handle terror. If she doesn't she won't win the independents. She has an opportunity to bring moderate Republicans into the Democratic fold and she's blowing it.

She's placing a bad bet here:

http://time.com/4498760/hillary-clinton-millennial-student-voters/

 

[marvelrobbins]

clinton is already showing she is no supporter of the left.this election is between 2 republicans mostly.

for first time since i was elable to vote i won't be voting for the democrat.and i sure hell won't be voting for trump.

bush family for clinton proves my point on her.

 

[Victarion]

She's not a Bush - no one's that dumb.

Did anyone else get a call last night or this morning, early, from someone claiming to be phonebanking for Hillary? It started out normal, but then they called me stuff I'm not going to repeat here. Has there been another leak?

 

[Sithborg]

clinton is already showing she is no supporter of the left.this election is between 2 republicans mostly.

for first time since i was elable to vote i won't be voting for the democrat.and i sure hell won't be voting for trump.

bush family for clinton proves my point on her.

Or maybe, just maybe, it says something about her opponent.

 

[summerteeth]

clinton is already showing she is no supporter of the left.this election is between 2 republicans mostly.

for first time since i was elable to vote i won't be voting for the democrat.and i sure hell won't be voting for trump.

bush family for clinton proves my point on her.

You are proving my point. The young progressives won't turn out to vote for her so a better bet would be the independents and the moderate Republicans who aren't voting for Trump.

Also, give me a freaking break about her being a Republican.

No Republican would propose a Public Option for healthcare.

Opposition to TPP (Republicans are pro free trade)

She wants to increase tax rates on labor and capital gains which is going to reduce GDP long term by 1% that's something no Republican would propose.

Proposal to offer free college tuition

etc.

To say that there are two Republicans in this race is down right laughable.

 

[Lighthouse]

I hope young liberals remember their ideological purity by supporting 3rd party candidates on a local level and actually have a shot at higher offices. Or they can fall into their usual patterns of only paying attention every four years, *****ing about the two party system and supporting unelectable candidates for the highest office.

 

[Marvolo]

I hope young liberals remember their ideological purity by supporting 3rd party candidates on a local level and actually have a shot at higher offices. Or they can fall into their usual patterns of only paying attention every four years, *****ing about the two party system and supporting unelectable candidates for the highest office.

Maybe if this country had some worthwhile 3rd parties...

 

[Thundercrack85]

You have two choices in this election, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar or an idiot.

 

[Marvolo]

You have two choices in this election, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar or an idiot.

But...but what about young liberal's "ideological purity"? Won't anyone think of the young liberals?!

 

[summerteeth]

You have two choices in this election, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar or an idiot.

If you live in a deeply Red or deeply Blue state your vote for a third party does send a signal you are unhappy, but if not...

 

[Lighthouse]

If you live in a deeply Red or deeply Blue state your vote for a third party does send a signal you are unhappy, but if not...

Does it? Does it really send a signal?

 

[summerteeth]

Does it? Does it really send a signal?

Yes...it does, that's why historically the major parties have taken up platforms by relatively successful third party bids. They generally bring issues to the forefront that are being ignored. Both parties collect data especially on their registered voters and then attempt to shape platforms based on the data.

 

[Kelly]

Yes...it does, that's why historically the major parties have taken up platforms by relatively successful third party bids. They generally bring issues to the forefront that are being ignored. Both parties collect data especially on their registered voters and then attempt to shape platforms based on the data.

Probably the biggest shake up like that was this year's DNC and Sanders (Sanders was kind of a 3rd party, sort of, kind of.... )...other than that, there is talk....but usually little if any action.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Clinton Campaign Manager Robby Mook Repeatedly Fails To Answer Basic Questions About Clinton's Syria Policy

Couldn't even handle basic policy questions from the likes of Willie Geist and Joe Scarborough. Not sure what the point of him being on there was if he couldn't do his main job of advocating for his candidate.

 

[mclay18]

Clinton Campaign Manager Robby Mook Repeatedly Fails To Answer Basic Questions About Clinton's Syria Policy

It's on her website, for Pete's sake.

 

[summerteeth]

Probably the biggest shake up like that was this year's DNC and Sanders (Sanders was kind of a 3rd party, sort of, kind of.... )...other than that, there is talk....but usually little if any action.

I disagree, Republicans have been even more anti tax increases after Ross Perot and the George HW Bush's defeat. History has shown that their ideas are often adopted by the two major parties if they are successful.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

NY Times - Hillary Clinton: My Plan for Helping America’s Poor

The true measure of any society is how we take care of our children. With all of our country’s resources, no child should ever have to grow up in poverty. Yet every single night, all across America, kids go to sleep hungry or without a place to call home.

We have to do better. Advocating for children and families has been the cause of my life, starting with my first job as a young attorney at the Children’s Defense Fund, and if I have the honor of serving as president, it will be the driving mission of my administration.

The good news is that we’re making progress, thanks to the hard work of the American people and President Obama. The global poverty rate has been cut in half in recent decades. In the United States, a new report from the Census Bureau found that there were 3.5 million fewer people living in poverty in 2015 than just a year before.

Median incomes rose by 5.2 percent, the fastest growth on record. Households at all income levels saw gains, with the largest going to those struggling the most. The census report makes clear that when hard-working Americans get a small boost — like food stamps and health insurance thanks to the Affordable Care Act — they can climb out of poverty.

But make no mistake: We still have work to do. Families across the country were devastated by the Great Recession.

Nearly 40 percent of Americans between the ages of 25 and 60 will experience a year in poverty at some point. The best way to help families lift themselves out of poverty is to make it easier to find good-paying jobs. As president, one of my top priorities will be increasing economic growth that’s strong, fair and lasting. I will work with Democrats and Republicans to make a historic investment in good-paying jobs — jobs in infrastructure and manufacturing, technology and innovation, small businesses and clean energy. And we need to make sure that hard work is rewarded by raising the minimum wage and finally guaranteeing equal pay for women.

If we want to get serious about poverty, we also need a national commitment to create more affordable housing. This issue doesn’t get much election-year coverage, but it’s a big deal to the 11.4 million American households that spend more than half their incomes on rent. Too many people are putting off saving for their children or retirement just to keep a roof over their families’ heads.

...

My plan would expand Low Income Housing Tax Credits in high-cost areas to increase our affordable housing supply, and fuel broader community development. So if you are a family living in an expensive city, you would be able to find an affordable place to call home and have access to the transportation you need to get to good jobs and quality schools.

We also need to ensure that our investments are reaching the communities suffering the most from decades of neglect. We have got to acknowledge that even though poverty overall has fallen, extreme poverty has increased. Tim Kaine and I will model our anti-poverty strategy on Congressman Jim Clyburn’s 10-20-30 plan, directing 10 percent of federal investments to communities where 20 percent of the population has been living below the poverty line for 30 years. And we’ll put special emphasis on minority communities that have been held back for too long by barriers of systemic racism.

As president, I will continue my life’s work focused on creating opportunities for children and fairness for families. We need to expand access to high-quality child care and guarantee paid leave so parents at all income levels can balance their jobs and lives. And we will work to double investments in Early Head Start and make preschool available to every 4-year-old because our children deserve the best possible start in life.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/opinion/hillary-clinton-my-plan-for-helping-americas-poor.html