The Clinton Thread

[Arkady Rossovich]

You don't honestly believe that, do you Arkady? Chelsea is very much a force to be reckoned with. I suggest you rethink your own suggestion of her only being there to make her mother "look nice."

You may be right,because I have heard she is going around to colleges trying to get young people to vote for her mother,since normally the young people go for Obama. But I still think she might slip up,because even with long time Politicians..they sometimes say something they should not.

 

[Handsome Rob]

To answer the question, no she is not off limits, but she doesn't have to answer anything she doesn't want to.

Was it a rude question, yes, but there is no law that people can't ask rude questions. It was a dumb question in that Hillary's credability is subjective. Some people admire that she stuck with her husband after he cheated, others feel she's dumb for not leaving him.

It's interesting because questions about Monica are going to start happening more frequently. How should Hillary or Bill respond to these questions if asked to them? Be more open and honest about it, or go with no comment?

Also, to Memphis or anyone else, will there be a double standard in the right? Remember when Bush was campaigning, his past drug and alcohol abuse was off limits because "it was in the past". And the **** really hit the fan when Kerry brought up Chaney's lesbian daughter. The right was outraged that he would bring up something so personal. Do you guys think that the right will unfairly harp on the Monica thing?

There shouldn't be a double standard, but you know there will be. An unfortunate but integral part of politics today is the exercising of the double-standard. When you're talking about being a leader, your personal life does matter. Now, to what extent someone's past should influence today's decision about them is a question of judgment and practicality--you may let an ex-burglar be a manager, but I doubt anyone will let an ex-con pedophile be an elementary school teacher.

A politician needs to have the guts to face questions about his/her past, but the public also needs to recognize that 1) people screw up--sometimes pretty badly, and 2) people can change.

 

[Marx]

These are really bad examples because both sets of daughters weren't/aren't actively campaigning for their parents. Chelsea is, that's the difference. I don't see what's wrong with the question, it sheds a light Hillary's private life, if she's willing to overlook her husband's many infidelities, what else is she willing to overlook? How is it any different than bringing up Obama's pastor? These are things in his personal life that people seem to think will have/had an impact on his professional life.

You're kidding right? You have absolutely no clue as to what went on behind the scenes between Hillary and Bill. I don't know what happened either, but COMMON SENSE says that she didn't just overlook everything. I fail to see how throwing that woman into this somehow creates an issue for Hillary and her credbility. It's a pathetic attempt to sabotage her. She decided to stand by her husband, for reasons only she knows. People should be commending them for staying together, not condemning them. Given the divorce rate in this country, maybe people should take another look at them and take some notes. Is their marriage perfect? Probably not, but it was their decision and I applaud them for it.

Monica Lewinsky has no place in this campaign.

 

[terry78]

http://thetimesonline.com/articles/2008/03/28/updates/breaking_news/doc47eced2b10c7c550666171.txt


I want to go over there, not to stir up trouble, but to see what she says. I'll bring a report later.

 

[Malice]

oh boy...lets all be excited!

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Stir up trouble so we can see your face on the news.

 

[The Senator]

No, she shouldn't drop out, because she can still win at the convention even if she loses the remaining of the states.

Not that it matters, since the Democratic Party will be defeated by McCain in November anyway.

Besides, Hillary will be in a better position to be the nominee, considering 1/4 of her supporters are willing to vote for McCain over Obama, whereas 20% of Obama's supporters would vote for McCain. I mean, we're only talking a difference of five percent... so it's just a question of whether McCain will win with 55% or 57% of the vote.

 

[Excel]

her approval ratings at 37%, I doubt if she steals the nominee from the popular vote winner due to technicality, she'll be looked at any better.

 

[The Senator]

her approval ratings at 37%, I doubt if she steals the nominee from the popular vote winner due to technicality, she'll be looked at any better.

And Obama's favorable rating isn't all that good, either, sitting at 49%. Which isn't a good thing, since I think Kerry's hovered around 53% throughout his campaign, and he still lost.

Besides, isn't John McCain's in the high fifties? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Excel]

Except Obama would be getting the nomination the voters gave him, not stealing it, which is how the media portray it.

 

[Matt]

So what? That is not how the rules of the Democratic Party work. And no matter what Richardson, Pelosi, or whoever say, that is not the way it works. If she is statistically in it, she owes it to the 50 % of the Democratic Party who voted for her to stay in.

 

[redfirebird2008]

And Obama's favorable rating isn't all that good, either, sitting at 49%. Which isn't a good thing, since I think Kerry's hovered around 53% throughout his campaign, and he still lost.

Besides, isn't John McCain's in the high fifties? Correct me if I'm wrong.

He's somewhere around there I think. The Dems are screwed either way at the moment.

 

[J. J. Jameson]

I can't believe people like John McCain so much. I mean, crap...what's the man's appeal? He's stiffer than a board when he speaks to crowds and he's worse than Bush when it comes to the war...

What the heck, America?

 

[terry78]

I can't believe people like John McCain so much. I mean, crap...what's the man's appeal? He's stiffer than a board when he speaks to crowds and he's worse than Bush when it comes to the war...

What the heck, America?

He's an old white man. That's our comfort zone.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Yes. I think it's clear that Obama has won. Clinton won't catch up.

 

[The Senator]

Yes. I think it's clear that Obama has won. Clinton won't catch up.

It's not clear that Obama has won. Once he receives 2025 delegates, he will have won. He doesn't have that yet.

 

[Marx]

So what? That is not how the rules of the Democratic Party work. And no matter what Richardson, Pelosi, or whoever say, that is not the way it works. If she is statistically in it, she owes it to the 50 % of the Democratic Party who voted for her to stay in.

Exactly. There is no way that she should drop out. Whether some people want to admit it or not, both of these campaigns are equal in strength and support. Any suggestion that she should drop out is ridiculous.

 

[Tron5000]

I can't believe people like John McCain so much. I mean, crap...what's the man's appeal? He's stiffer than a board when he speaks to crowds and he's worse than Bush when it comes to the war...

What the heck, America?

What the heck does that have to do with being president? Would Carrot Top be a better alternative for you?

 

[SuBe]

Well, some people actually like voting for someone with experience. Others like to vote for someone with more "appeal", whatever that means.

 

[The Senator]

Charisma should have little to do with whether one is Presidential material. Kerry had the charisma of a drunken horse, and I would have gladly given him my vote if I was able to do so during that election. Experience, and the ability to lead, should be the two qualifications one seeks in a President.

People shouldn't hold McCain's "lack of charisma" (he has more charisma than Bob Dole or Kerry did, though) against him.

 

[Excel]

It's not clear that Obama has won. Once he receives 2025 delegates, he will have won. He doesn't have that yet.

Thanks Huckabee

 

[Marx]

Thanks Huckabee

Huckabee had never had a chance Ex. They were 800 points apart! That's quite a big difference from 140.

 

[Excel]

That was also in January. We're approaching April. If She loses NC, she needs to drop out for the sake of the party.

 

[SuBe]

Thanks Huckabee

What does Huckabee have anything to do with the Obama/Clinton Race?

Why are you thanking him? That makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Marx]

That was also in January. We're approaching April. If She loses NC, she needs to drop out for the sake of the party.

In a recent interview, Howard Dean said that he is convinced that Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated at the convention. Hillary is not going to drop out.