The Clinton Thread

[jaymes_e06]

^^^You got that right all politician do that.

But Hillary doesn't just exaggerate she straight out lies! It seems as if she will go at any lengths to win. I was a firm Hillary sopporter in the begining even after Oprah indorsed Obama I was still for Hill because I new she would fight for this country; yet if she is going to fight this way if just makes her less and less atractive to the American public.

 

[Kelly]

^^^You got that right all politician do that.

But Hillary doesn't just exaggerate she straight out lies! It seems as if she will go at any lengths to win. I was a firm Hillary sopporter in the begining even after Oprah indorsed Obama I was still for Hill because I new she would fight for this country; yet if she is going to fight this way if just makes her less and less atractive to the American public.

Hmmmm.....seems they just want their stories to be more than they truly are...


Just like when The Washington Post caught Obama in a "whatever ya want to call it" about the Kennedy family role in getting his father to America. It turns out the Kennedys were not involved in any Kenyan airlifts until after Obama's father was safely in Hawaii.

Just seems like that want their life stories to be more than they are......I guess they are scared they are not going to be able to "one up" McCain being a POW in Vietnam for 5 and half years......that is kinda a hard one to beat......

 

[Gilpesh]

I guess they are scared they are not going to be able to "one up" McCain being a POW in Vietnam for 5 and half years......that is kinda a hard one to beat......

But it turns out that McCain could have actually left at any time. The Vietnamese were just messing with him as a joke.

You can't say that isn't below Clinton's tactics at this point if she gets the nom.

 

[Kelly]

lol....

 

[Zen]

Hmmmm.....seems they just want their stories to be more than they truly are...


Just like when The Washington Post caught Obama in a "whatever ya want to call it" about the Kennedy family role in getting his father to America. It turns out the Kennedys were not involved in any Kenyan airlifts until after Obama's father was safely in Hawaii.

Just seems like that want their life stories to be more than they are......I guess they are scared they are not going to be able to "one up" McCain being a POW in Vietnam for 5 and half years......that is kinda a hard one to beat......

well i think thats the wrong route for Obama to go... his life story to me regardless of how storied it is, isnt going to get him elected. he better focus on the issues, and debate on the situation of the Country.

Life stories will only get in the way of the issues

 

[Zen]

But it turns out that McCain could have actually left at any time. The Vietnamese were just messing with him as a joke.

You can't say that isn't below Clinton's tactics at this point if she gets the nom.

you gotta offer a link or something if your going to throw McCains service in his face like that.

im for the democrats, but this is just a hard pill to swallow.

i heard he stayed because he didnt want to leave without his comrades.

i never heard anything about it being a joke

 

[jaymes_e06]

^^^ I totally agree! I have not carved in stone who I will vote for when it is my turn to vote for the democratic party. I am unsure of if I want to vote for either. They both still have some convincing to do.

 

[Gilpesh]

you gotta offer a link or something if your going to throw McCains service in his face like that.

im for the democrats, but this is just a hard pill to swallow.

i heard he stayed because he didnt want to leave without his comrades.

i never heard anything about it being a joke

I was making a joke. Tasteless yes... but still a joke. Then I mentioned how at this moment in time you could safely say that Clinton is not above that type of blatant lying on her campaign or just in life.

 

[Zen]

I was making a joke. Tasteless yes... but still a joke. Then I mentioned how at this moment in time you could safely say that Clinton is not above that type of blatant lying on her campaign or just in life.

Whoops that was over my head!

carry on sir!

 

[jaymes_e06]

Hillary: OBAMA CAN'T WIN!!! MUHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Gilpesh]

Whoops that was over my head!

carry on sir!

Yeah. No emoticon can convey internet sarcasm without completely removing the sarcasm.

 

[Cosmic]

I'll just assume that entire list on Obama is true. All of it piled up together, doesn't come anywhere near this latest gaffe.

It's one thing to embellish, exaggerate, or outright lie about facts concerning your own past. It's an entirely different thing when it concerns other people's lives and careers.

Hillary got caught "exaggerating" about the true story of a dead woman and her stillborn child, so she could score political points out on the campaign trail. In the process, she smeared the hospital that treated this woman.

Sure, maybe her campaign workers just failed to properly fact-check the story before green-lighting it. In a boldly elitist statement released by the campaign management, they basically try to say that the details don't matter that much...it's the message that people care about.

Now, apply that same attitude to the business of running this country, and see what you get.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Hillary's now claiming she criticized the war before Obama. She's officially gone off the deep-end. Unbelievable.

 

[Excel]

Obama doesnt need to do anything now, just sit back and let her destroy herself.

 

[Gilpesh]

Hillary's now claiming she criticized the war before Obama. She's officially gone off the deep-end. Unbelievable.

Linkage?

 

[redfirebird2008]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/05/politics/fromtheroad/entry3996192.shtml

Clinton said, “I started criticizing the war in Iraq before he did. So, I’m well aware that his entire campaign is premised on a speech he gave in 2002 and I give him credit for making that speech. But that was not a decision.”

I don't know if she was tired when she said it or what, but it's absolutely baffling. She didn't start speaking out against it until she began thinking about running for President. There's evidence of her supporting it as recently as 2006, so I'm curious as to how it's possible that she criticized it before Obama when he criticized it before it ever got started, meanwhile she gave a speech in which she claimed it was the right thing to do because Saddam had WMD and she thought he was connected to Al-Quaeda. I just don't understand what she was thinking when she decided to make this newest claim.

 

[Gilpesh]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/05/politics/fromtheroad/entry3996192.shtml

Clinton said, “I started criticizing the war in Iraq before he did. So, I’m well aware that his entire campaign is premised on a speech he gave in 2002 and I give him credit for making that speech. But that was not a decision.”

Ah thank ya. She's lost even more respect that I had for her... which was little to start with seeing as all the major lies.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Maybe it's just me, but smiling in the spot where MLK was murdered seems pretty awkward.

 

[Whirlysplat]

Who cares? Most of these cats are rich and act like they are so in tuned to your normal needs. They hadn't known what was normal for quite some time.

They never knew what was normal; Bill was from a wealthy family and was a Rhodes scholar. Hilary was from a wealthy family and had a very strong career herself. Only the rich ever lead first world countries.

 

[Marx]

Maybe it's just me, but smiling in the spot where MLK was murdered seems pretty awkward.

But not even showing up (which was what Barack Obama chose to do,) or having a speech in which an african-american man holds the umbrella over your head while it's raining (which is what John McCain did) is even worse.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

That's what I'm curious to know. I fail to see what kind of argument you are trying to make Sparkle when they were not charged with anything.

I'm asking if you really think all politician's wealth is "deserved"

 

[redfirebird2008]

But not even showing up (which was what Barack Obama chose to do,) or having a speech in which an african-american man holds the umbrella over your head while it's raining (which is what John McCain did) is even worse.

Obama is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Obama would have been criticized for taking advantage of the obvious if he showed up. He gave a great speech in Indianapolis (where Bobby Kennedy delivered the news of MLK's death and there were no riots in that city b/c of RFK's speech) to many white people instead of preaching to the choir in Memphis. I think MLK would be proud of him for reaching out to a different demographic on that day and trying to spread MLK's message to a more diverse audience. Obama went and spoke at Ebenezer Baptist Church (MLK's church) on the weekend of MLK's birthday. It was a more private event than this most recent thing in Memphis.

Meanwhile, Hillary claims that when she saw MLK as a child, he changed her heart. Yet she was against the civil rights acts of the mid-1960's and was a "Goldwater Girl" at that point. Goldwater was a segregationist a-hole. If MLK had really changed her heart, she would have supported those pieces of civil rights legislation. She didn't change until she got to college, at which point she was part of the College Republicans and had an epiphany at some point.

McCain showed some balls going there to admit he was wrong, but it was straight up political pandering, just like Hillary. Having a black guy holding the umbrella didn't help his cause at all. Some analysts have suggested that he was doing it to win whites that are tired of the Republican Party ignoring blacks. He knows he won't win the black vote (88% for Kerry in '04) so it wasn't so much that as it was trying to get a potential campaign issue out of the way and pandering to whites that want the party to broaden its appeal.

 

[Cosmic]

We worship celebrity status and wealth. The rich, elite minority who wields nearly all the power in central government is almost completely out of touch with the vast majority of people who they claim to speak for. The mainstream media comments on this, but doesn't question it.

 

[Kelly]

I'll just assume that entire list on Obama is true. All of it piled up together, doesn't come anywhere near this latest gaffe.

It's one thing to embellish, exaggerate, or outright lie about facts concerning your own past. It's an entirely different thing when it concerns other people's lives and careers.

Hillary got caught "exaggerating" about the true story of a dead woman and her stillborn child, so she could score political points out on the campaign trail. In the process, she smeared the hospital that treated this woman.

Sure, maybe her campaign workers just failed to properly fact-check the story before green-lighting it. In a boldly elitist statement released by the campaign management, they basically try to say that the details don't matter that much...it's the message that people care about.

Now, apply that same attitude to the business of running this country, and see what you get.

lol.....look I'm not going to debate any politicians motive.....I don't trust any of them.....so it's silly for me debate that.....BUT, she was told the by a officer of the Sheriff's department in the county where it happened. Her campaign should have checked the story before going with it, they didn't. A reason to not vote for her......please.... Obama should have checked when the Kennedy's worked with helping to get people out of Africa......he should have actually checked when the Selma march was.......A reason to not vote for him......please.... McCain, should slow down in his speeches and make sure he says Iraq when he means Iraq....reason to not vote for him......please.....

There are actually "real" reasons to not vote for them......

 

[hippie_hunter]

Obama doesnt need to do anything now, just sit back and let her destroy herself.

I never thought that I'd agree with you like this