The Dark Knight The Dark Knight 'Ask A Question'

[CaptainClown]

Important question:

Did Batman really need to attack the SWAT Team? I mean, why didn't he just remove the clown masks off the hostages? I'm sure the sight of a frightened person with tape over their mouth would have convinced the SWAT and police that the Joker switched the hostages with the bad guys.

Otherwise, the scene was just another attempt for the film to have an action suspense plot moment.

You just like picking out things of a movie don't ya?

Swat teams thinking while going in is "shoot all clowns"
All hostages have clown masks on.

That would mean he has to rely on the fact that the swat team would recognize them and not shoot, however as you might know many swat teams are kind of trigger happy especially since the hostages have weapons taped to their hands and can't lower their weapon.

Also he had to take out some swat teams to not enter areas where they would be ambushed and killed. While we are at it, did you not notice how hard it would be to see and how almost impossible it would be for Batman to flip up all the masks of the goons. It would be better to disable the swat team then unmask the hostages and HOPE that the swat team doesn't accidentally shoot.

 

[CaptainClown]

fail t:

the nerve of some people

 

[Mr. Earle]

Important question:

Did Batman really need to attack the SWAT Team? I mean, why didn't he just remove the clown masks off the hostages? I'm sure the sight of a frightened person with tape over their mouth would have convinced the SWAT and police that the Joker switched the hostages with the bad guys.

Otherwise, the scene was just another attempt for the film to have an action suspense plot moment.

Then we would have lost that epic fight scene.

"We got him. He's out of the game."
*kick*
TaaaDaaaaaaa.....

You just like picking out things of a movie don't ya?

Swat teams thinking while going in is "shoot all clowns"
All hostages have clown masks on.

That would mean he has to rely on the fact that the swat team would recognize them and not shoot, however as you might know many swat teams are kind of trigger happy especially since the hostages have weapons taped to their hands and can't lower their weapon.

Also he had to take out some swat teams to not enter areas where they would be ambushed and killed. While we are at it, did you not notice how hard it would be to see and how almost impossible it would be for Batman to flip up all the masks of the goons. It would be better to disable the swat team then unmask the hostages and HOPE that the swat team doesn't accidentally shoot.

He could have Fox or Alfred call the cops or Gordon. Eh...doesnt matter... It was too cool!

 

[Magenta666]

You just like picking out things of a movie don't ya?

Swat teams thinking while going in is "shoot all clowns"
All hostages have clown masks on.

That would mean he has to rely on the fact that the swat team would recognize them and not shoot, however as you might know many swat teams are kind of trigger happy especially since the hostages have weapons taped to their hands and can't lower their weapon.

Also he had to take out some swat teams to not enter areas where they would be ambushed and killed. While we are at it, did you not notice how hard it would be to see and how almost impossible it would be for Batman to flip up all the masks of the goons. It would be better to disable the swat team then unmask the hostages and HOPE that the swat team doesn't accidentally shoot.

haha

 

[Lemenbolle]

Important question:

Did Batman really need to attack the SWAT Team? I mean, why didn't he just remove the clown masks off the hostages? I'm sure the sight of a frightened person with tape over their mouth would have convinced the SWAT and police that the Joker switched the hostages with the bad guys.

Otherwise, the scene was just another attempt for the film to have an action suspense plot moment.

He had to attack the team to get to the Joker before them (he knew the Joker had a spare detonator).

But I agree that Batman could just have flipped off the masks screaming/pointing at the gaffa on their faces. And pulled the sacks off the 'hostages'' heads.

But maybe he didn't do it because he knows that they don't entirely trust him.

Besides, when they saw Batman capture the Joker, and he did something good by doing so, wouldn't they think it was strange he went on to kill people afterwards?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

That could be the ultimate question. I don't think I can give a answer apart from just to make it more dramatic.

 

[gwynplaine]

He had to attack the team to get to the Joker before them (he knew the Joker had a spare detonator).

But I agree that Batman could just have flipped off the masks screaming/pointing at the gaffa on their faces. And pulled the sacks off the 'hostages'' heads.

But maybe he didn't do it because he knows that they don't entirely trust him.

Besides, when they saw Batman capture the Joker, and he did something good by doing so, wouldn't they think it was strange he went on to kill people afterwards?

Maybe to them, he's just a freak like him.

I mean the guy dresses like a bat after all and speaks like Tom Waits.

 

[[A]]

I mean the guy dresses like a bat after all and speaks like Tom Waits.

I wish!

Now.. imagine Batman doing the voice-drum intro to Big In Japan

 

[gwynplaine]

I wish!

Now.. imagine Batman doing the voice-drum intro to Big In Japan

Lol.

 

[Copyright 2008]

That could be the ultimate question. I don't think I can give a answer apart from just to make it more dramatic.

The answer is as simple as Gordon is the one who calls the order in to go after Batman. If anyone has a reputation as a good honest cop, it's him. No one would question him on that, especially since he was the one working most with Batman and was in support of him. So when even he says to go after Batman, everyone is pretty much convinced. Remember the scene of him destroying the bat signal with the rest of the cops looking on. Kinda symbolizes that.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Good point, I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that post!

 

[Kevin1169]

During the Batpod chase, when Batman come flying out of the alley onto the street to meet up with the semi, it looks as though the wheels are rolling sideways, or is it just me?

 

[CaptainClown]

During the Batpod chase, when Batman come flying out of the alley onto the street to meet up with the semi, it looks as though the wheels are rolling sideways, or is it just me?

ya thast basically what it does. Looks cool though.

 

[JaD]

During the Batpod chase, when Batman come flying out of the alley onto the street to meet up with the semi, it looks as though the wheels are rolling sideways, or is it just me?

ya thast basically what it does. Looks cool though.

Yeah it does

Spoiler

I guess he can drive that thing with the wheels and guns upside down

 

[Lemenbolle]

THe Arkham ferry detonator has black tape
The cilivian ferry detonator has red tape.

I only recall that the Arkham ferry bomb had this red little light. I cannot stop thinking about if there were black or red tape on the bombs, to know which bomb belonged to which detonator? Maybe when the blu-ray is released the definition will be good enough to see if there is any.

After the power loss at the Arkham ferry, when one of the ferry men goes to check the machinery, the camera focuses on the tattoed prisoner following the guard with his eyes, as if he knew or suspected something(or the film makers simply making us notice the character) I still like to think he knows the bombs are really not switched.

 

[Anita18]

Did any of you watch the nolan director's cut screening earlier last spring? Because, if so, maybe you could point out differences to the theatrical edition, if there were any!

I spoke with some people who did see the first cut, and I was told that there were only a few seconds shaved off here and there. They specifically noted that Nolan was not a guy who edited very heavily - he basically shoots what he writes. We even see that in the early draft of the script - only a line of dialogue here and there was excised.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I have been pondering this for a long time. When Batman explodes out the alley on the Batpod you don't see the armoured van behind him, and then when the view changes you don't see the armoured van in front of him. What gives? Was something cut out showing the van going past Batman? This is the only thing I find a little bit stupid.

 

[Anita18]

I have been pondering this for a long time. When Batman explodes out the alley on the Batpod you don't see the armoured van behind him, and then when the view changes you don't see the armoured van in front of him. What gives? Was something cut out showing the van going past Batman? This is the only thing I find a little bit stupid.

Yeah, the van seems to disappear in those few seconds. The focus is on Batman and Joker, so I don't think anyone really noticed besides you and maybe a few other people. It didn't really bother me - it can be assumed that the truck is still there.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I suppose I can't say it really bothered me. And yea I understand they want our attention to be soley on Batman and Joker, but I think they could of just showed Batman ride past it, it could of looked pretty cool.

 

[Copyright 2008]

Yeah I didn't notice that at first. But that whole sequence the editing is kinda choppy up to the point that the bat pod flips the semi. Mostly during the scenes where it shows Batman riding around on the bat pod.

 

[Lemenbolle]

I spoke with some people who did see the first cut, and I was told that there were only a few seconds shaved off here and there. They specifically noted that Nolan was not a guy who edited very heavily - he basically shoots what he writes. We even see that in the early draft of the script - only a line of dialogue here and there was excised.

Thanks for telling! But those seconds could help the pacing, you know..

 

[Eggyman]

Ok, here's a very easy question... one that I don't need answering but was wondering if anybody else spotted the same thing.

The first time we see Bats in action, has anyone noticed that it's a rip off of American Psycho?

Let me explain. In TDK we have Batman, stood at the top of the ramp, watching the truck go down anticlockwise, getting ready to jump. In American Psycho we have Pat Bateman waiting at the top of the stairs with the chainsaw as the prostitute runs down the stairs *anticlockwise*

So, you're probably thinking that I'm implying that Batman is a chainsaw... not the case

Batman is still at the top of the ramp, and so is the chainsaw, and so is Bateman.

BU-ut, if you take the 'E' out of Bateman, what does it leave you with? BATMAN is what it leaves you with.

So, if my calculations are correct:

Bateman minus

Spoiler

and also

Spoiler

=

Spoiler

Uncanny, isn't it?

 

[hatebox]

^ Yes, the whole jumping onto the van/chainsaw drop parallel have been noted before I think. Whether it was intentional only Nolan knows I suppose...

 

[CaptainClown]

all I know is I had to trust anyone in the world to hit someone running down a flight of stairs or just pegging someone from a long distance, that person would be Christian Bale HANDS DOWN!

 

[Eggyman]

Anyone read American Psycho?

It's a great book, and at some point in it some woman does in fact play on the similarities in names when she calls BatEman, Batman.



It's a conspiracy. American Psycho is actually the true origin for Nolan's Bat(e)man franchise. It's more BELIEVABLE in the psychological sense, IMO.