The Dark Knight The Dark Knight 'Ask A Question'

[CaptainClown]

I read American Psycho and I love that book. Absolutely hilarious.

 

[Eggyman]

Yeah. I got a lot of funny looks when I recommended it to people and told them it was maybe the funniest thing I've ever read.

 

[JaD]

Hmm, this place needs some more questions

*wonders*

How old do you think Joker is in the movie? The Nurse scene really showed how young he was, to me at least.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I would say he's supposed to me no older than Heath's real age. I would say maybe he's meant to be younger than Heath. Early twenties, that whole street punk thing really gave me the feeling he was quite young.

 

[JaD]

He really seemed like a young gun in the nurse scene, him trying to get to the unconsious Batman, or towards the end of the mob meeting, like a "What am I getting myself into" type of nervousness once he had to whip out the grenades. That nurse scene though especially, I really almost thought that Dent could think "This guy's just a kid" *compared to the other actors at least*

 

[hatebox]

I'd say he's meant to be late 20s.

It's an interesting idea though - I don't think age is something that would really affect the Joker's personality...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I'm not so sure, his recklessness and swagger gives me the impression that he is quite young.

 

[[A]]

29 is very young

 

[Brick]

I'm not so sure, his recklessness and swagger gives me the impression that he is quite young.

The Joker is going to act like that regardless of what age he is.

 

[[A]]

Plus, you don't need to be young to swagger around.. Check Blonsky in the last Hulk..

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I know that, but I mean this specific Joker gives me that impression. The part where he crashes the fund-raiser makes me think he is really enjoying it the same way a kid or someone young enjoys doing pranks and pissing about if you know what I mean. The way he comes out of the lift "We made it!!".

 

[[A]]

Don't forget the funny hop/walking in the street, after the truck flip

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Hahahaha yea. He does something like that a few times. "Dum de dum de dum" and when Chechen walks towards him when he sets the money on fire. "Ahh ta tat ta ta ta"

 

[JaD]

Don't forget the funny hop/walking in the street, after the truck flip

That's what I mentioned too.

Just something to think about you know, and him mentioning his father several times made me think about it as well.

 

[[A]]

*I made the 29 comment because Ledger was born in 79, just like me

 

[gwynplaine]

I like young Joker better than old Joker. I like when Batman and Joker could be brothers and not the father and son dynamic brought by an older Joker.

 

[Bat101]

Important Questions:

When Batman jumped out the window to save Rachel, why didn't he fire his grappling gun at the side of the building to slow his decent?

OR

Why didn't he wrap a safety belt harness around Rachel, much like he did to Lau during the skyhook procedure? If he had done this to Rachel, he could have activated the cape all the way and they could have glided down slowly and safely.



From what many people said, Batman held onto Rachel with one hand, and the other hand was holding the cape which made half of it rigid. In BB, when Batman jumped out the window after facing the Scarecrow, he managed to open half of the cape, which barely slowed down his decent.

In both instances, whenever he only manages to activate only half of the cape, his fall is always cushioned by a car.

In TDK, if it were not for the taxi, I'm sure Batman would have broken his spine. Was crashing on the taxi simply a chance of luck, or did Batman see it as an opportunity of a safe landing?

Most importantly, if Batman and Rachel crashed landed on the asphalt road, would they have survived in your opinions?

-Btw, in TDK, did the half-rigid-cape actually slow down Batman and Rachel's fall? I couldn't really tell from the fast camera angles.

Since BB and TDK are grounded in reality, I just want to know how exactly Batman survived that fall from his skyscraper penthouse.

 

[CaptainClown]

Man you just keep finding small minor things to pick apart don't you? I will get to this after I finish some stuff for my costume.

 

[Anita18]

Important Questions:

When Batman jumped out the window to save Rachel, why didn't he fire his grappling gun at the side of the building to slow his decent?

OR

Why didn't he wrap a safety belt harness around Rachel, much like he did to Lau during the skyhook procedure? If he had done this to Rachel, he could have activated the cape all the way and they could have glided down slowly and safely.



From what many people said, Batman held onto Rachel with one hand, and the other hand was holding the cape which made half of it rigid. In BB, when Batman jumped out the window after facing the Scarecrow, he managed to open half of the cape, which barely slowed down his decent.

In both instances, whenever he only manages to activate only half of the cape, his fall is always cushioned by a car.

In TDK, if it were not for the taxi, I'm sure Batman would have broken his spine. Was crashing on the taxi simply a chance of luck, or did Batman see it as an opportunity of a safe landing?

Most importantly, if Batman and Rachel crashed landed on the asphalt road, would they have survived in your opinions?

-Btw, in TDK, did the half-rigid-cape actually slow down Batman and Rachel's fall? I couldn't really tell from the fast camera angles.

Since BB and TDK are grounded in reality, I just want to know how exactly Batman survived that fall from his skyscraper penthouse.

He didn't have a safety harness on him? We only saw it in the HK mission so it was probably a one-off thing.

Plus if you pay attention, he stores the grappling gun at the small of his back. He has to reach back and get it whenever he wants to use it. Considering he was kind of busy holding on to Rachel, it wasn't an option. (I have no idea where Keaton's Batman stored his grappling gun on the suit..)

Bats saw the taxi below, uses the cape to slow the fall a little (they definitely didn't reach terminal velocity), and to aim the landing on top of the car. You ever wonder why tree-living animals have such long, large tails?

Of course they wouldn't have survived if they had landed in the middle of the street.

And if TDK were REALLY realistic, Batman would have ripped out his arms in that HK skyscraper jump, because he falls such a large distance before deploying the cape from a backpack. I don't think human shoulders were meant to withstand such a force. Nolan's Batman films bend reality, they just don't break them.

 

[batman11]

In BB, when Batman jumped out the window after facing the Scarecrow, he managed to open half of the cape, which barely slowed down his decent.

That never happened...

 

[CaptainClown]

OH Anita beat me to a long post, oh well I will nitpick a little bit.

1. Batman when facing scarecrow was on fire and having a nice little mental trip.
2. Safety belt harnesses aren't these small little devices he could just pull out of nowhere. Also by the time he set it up and tried to set it up on her it probably would have been too late.
3. If he fired his grappling gun after he jumped out he wouldn't have caught Rachel. If he fired it after he grabbed her it probably would have snapped since the velocity of about 400 lbs going down and a radical pull would just counteract.
4. Batman probably saw the taxi and saw for it to break his fall.
5. If they landed on the asphalt depending on how they landed they probably would have died.
6. BB AND TDK ARE NOT GROUNDED TO REALITY! They have a strong grounded tone about them but are from real. It is a superhero movie after all.

 

[Bat101]

He didn't have a safety harness on him? We only saw it in the HK mission so it was probably a one-off thing.

Plus if you pay attention, he stores the grappling gun at the small of his back. He has to reach back and get it whenever he wants to use it. Considering he was kind of busy holding on to Rachel, it wasn't an option. (I have no idea where Keaton's Batman stored his grappling gun on the suit..)

Bats saw the taxi below, uses the cape to slow the fall a little (they definitely didn't reach terminal velocity), and to aim the landing on top of the car. You ever wonder why tree-living animals have such long, large tails?

Of course they wouldn't have survived if they had landed in the middle of the street.

And if TDK were REALLY realistic, Batman would have ripped out his arms in that HK skyscraper jump, because he falls such a large distance before deploying the cape from a backpack. I don't think human shoulders were meant to withstand such a force. Nolan's Batman films bend reality, they just don't break them.

1) His belt should have had the safety belt in the back. Where does he store the grappling gun, sticky gun collapsable gun, and saw cutter? -In the back. Note: During the hostage scene with the swat, the sticky gun comes out of nowhere. In other words it was definitely attached in the back of the belt.

2) His suit prevented his arms from being ripped off. He was wearing an armored suit that was far technologically advanced than a current soldier's.

3) Nolan's film are grounded in REALITY. If TDK was bending the rules or drifting into fantasy, why the hell did Batman have to coordinate the whole Hong Kong-Lau-Skyhook procedure? If the film was out of reality and into fantasy, why didn't Batman fly his BATPLANE into Hong Kong, have it hover around Lau's skyscraper, Batman breaks-in and extracts Lau, and they both fly back to Gotham?

 

[Bat101]

That never happened...

Read the Batman Begins Novel. It says he managed to open only half of his cape.

 

[Bat101]

3. If he fired his grappling gun after he jumped out he wouldn't have caught Rachel. If he fired it after he grabbed her it probably would have snapped since the velocity of about 400 lbs going down and a radical pull would just counteract.

The grappling gun's line was strong enough to hold Batman when he was being dragged by the monorail in BB. In TDK, the line didn't break when Batman fired it at the Joker who was falling.

 

[CaptainClown]

1. No... he doesn't keep his sticky gun on him at all times. At the hostage scene he had time to go to his bike to get it before. He also was anticipating a run in with the Joker. The saw cutter/brass knuckles/bender device was very small and could fit easier on his belt vs a collapsible gun.
2. No, his suit doesn't give him enhanced strength to keep his limbs together. It serves as protection. Think of it this way you could put knee pads on and protect yourself from falling down. However your knee pads don't prevent your legs from bending backwards. Same logic applies. It protects but not that much.
3. THey aren't grounded in reality. Stop it...stop...they aren't.