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I think James wasn't that stunned because he still believed his dad was alive. He has faith in Batman, his faith was rewarded. He was so hopeful that he was alive that he may have been in denial.
 
Or maybe he was tired. Or maybe it didn't even register that his dad was actually dead, because Batman's always around to save him, right? :cwink:

That's what I think. Sometimes when I wake up I'll babble something that doesn't make much sense, believing that whatever I was dreaming about was real. Maybe he dreamed his dad was still alive and then his dad appeared to wake him up.
 
I'll admit I've been away a long time as I didn't want to be too spoiled as well as computer problems and real life reasons. As I'm lazy and unsure where the information would be located. Has someone worked out a way to explain how faking Gordon's death and having Dent confess to being Batman wasn't worked out between the three in the first place? Because it seems to make sense if they conspired beforehand about it but one hell of a coincidence if they didn't and that's what the film implies. So is there another way to think about it without it being a major plothole? I wouldn't mind someone telling me their, or others, explanation. Thank you in advance.

Angeloz
 
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^I wrote a post on this subject once. Basically I see it as a bunch of spontaneous, uncoordinated plans.

Here's how I see events playing out:

Gordon - He was hit by the Joker but the bulletproof vest prevented him from being killed. As he lay there he got an idea, and when the paramedics came he told them to lie and claim he'd been killed. Normally doctors wouldn't do such a thing, but if they think it could help catch a terrorist they might play along. He probably stays at the hospital overnight and when he hears of Dent's arrest he leaves to protect Dent and hopefully arrest the Joker. Gordon likely showed up at MCU, told someone he was in charge of driving the escort, acted like he knew what he was doing, and nobody questioned him.

Dent - I think his claim that he's Batman is also spur-of-the-moment, though it could be that he planned it out ahead of time and just hesitated before taking the blame. I don't think Dent has any grand scheme in mind; he probably just thinks Batman in too important to Gotham to lose and his pride won't let him give in to the Joker's demands.

Batman - Goes to the conference genuinely planning to give himself up, but after Harvey outs himself as Batman he gets the idea to capture the Joker when he inevitably goes after Dent.
 
It is, but I just tell myself that it's a comic book movie. *shrugs*
 
I'm not losing sleep over it myself. But I was curious if there was an explanation.

Angeloz
 
One post is curious. Maybe two. Three and more is.. something else :O
 
You are a ****

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Ironically I just watched the film again and I don't mind the coincidence so much anymore (maybe I just needed to voice it or I was overly judgemental the second viewing). I still worry for them though (the characters - especially Bruce).

Angeloz
 
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Ironically I just watched the film again and I don't mind the coincidence so much anymore (maybe I just needed to voice it or I was overly judgemental the second viewing). I still worry for them though (the characters - especially Bruce).

Angeloz

Sorry pal that wasn't aimed at you. If you was here earlier you would of seen who it was aimed to, their post got deleted. Infact, you're lucky to have not seen what was posted there, it was disgusting.
 
Sorry pal that wasn't aimed at you. If you was here earlier you would of seen who it was aimed to, their post got deleted. Infact, you're lucky to have not seen what was posted there, it was disgusting.

I wondered. Thanks for clearing that up.

Angeloz
 
Sorry pal that wasn't aimed at you. If you was here earlier you would of seen who it was aimed to, their post got deleted. Infact, you're lucky to have not seen what was posted there, it was disgusting.

You can't tease us like that! What did he say? :funny: No need to repeat it, just give me the general idea.
 
i hope i don't get in trouble for this.... but something like 2 girls, 1 cup was on the boards.....that's all i'm sayin'.. was here a few months back too..... nasty....
 
i hope i don't get in trouble for this.... but something like 2 girls, 1 cup was on the boards.....that's all i'm sayin'.. was here a few months back too..... nasty....

Gross. Now here's a question:

Someone in the Joker's Henchmen thread said that two of the Joker's goons can be seen curled up and weeping in the cell with him. Has anyone else seen that?
 
wha? i haven't seen them 'weeping' i do think they are in there though....
 
Hi guys

I hope its not already been asked, and I feel like a bit of an eejit, but can anyone explain why Gordon removed The Joker's handcuff's before he left for his 'cup of coffee'? Is there an actual police technicality involved??

Cheers!! :yay::yay::yay:
 
Someone in the Joker's Henchmen thread said that two of the Joker's goons can be seen curled up and weeping in the cell with him. Has anyone else seen that?

wha? i haven't seen them 'weeping' i do think they are in there though....
You mean these two

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They look like they're weeping, yeah. But I don't think they are. Probably just sick of all the voices...
 
Hi guys

I hope its not already been asked, and I feel like a bit of an eejit, but can anyone explain why Gordon removed The Joker's handcuff's before he left for his 'cup of coffee'? Is there an actual police technicality involved??

Cheers!! :yay::yay::yay:

I figured he did it to avoid a police brutality charge, but I'm just guessing. Welcome to the Hype. :woot:
 
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