The Dark Knight The Dark Knight Fan Review Thread

[Cain]

Oh, come on. It's an opinion.

Calm down and here's some cookie for you.

Just like someone rating something a 1 is their opinion as well.

 

[Hypestyle]

somebody get Mr. Nolan to jump ship to do Daredevil-- they ripped off the radar sense!

but beyond that, very good film overall..

I liked the length, all superhero movies should be this length..

...the tragedy of ledger's death is compounded by this great role..I wanted to see the Joker come back...

the darker ending is bizarre, but I wonder where they're going from here.. if batman takes the blame for murders, then....?

BTW- Lucius didn't quit for good, did he?

 

[Cain]

Then why did you say take out the 1/10 option Would that not be compromising opinions As for opinions, oh yes we all can have one. But a person that isn't childish and takes a look at a movie even if they hate it would not vote a 1/10. A 1/10 is a low budget Sci-fi channel movie with bad acting or a complete travesty like Pluto Nash and Date Movie. So, in your opinion it seems that this movie is either on par with Sci-fi movies and Pluto Nash/Date Movie or they are even better

And liking a movie and giving it a 1/10 is just plain childish and lame.

Just because it doesn't fit your personal criteria of what a 1 star movie is don't go off asuming everybody gauges what a 1 star movie the same way you do.

 

[Cain]

And if Two Face lives, I will eat my words re: Venom, but it would really seem silly to go through all that dramatic speech if Dent is still breathing. You would think Gordon would check for a pulse first before releasing the hounds!

How so? Batman could still take the rap and Harvey's rep isn't dented (no pun) until the eventual conflict that neither Gordon or Bats imagine coming of Two-Face escaping from Arkham and showing everybody what he has become arises.

 

[inflames]

question: when gordon and the police are surveying the building with the hostages dressed like goons why does he tell batman that harvey is in there with them?

 

[Solidus]

I agree. I also think it has to do with something else. The movie explained that Batman had not become the symbol he wanted to be. Instead of hope, he inspired vigilantism as shown through the fake Batmen. He inadvertently inspired the madness of the Joker.

Harvey Dent is the white knight. He doesn't wear a mask, which makes him easier to trust. He locked up 500 criminals without violence (except for one punch). He's pure, incorruptible. It's much better for Harvey to represent hope than a vigilante.

Just my view.

I agree, that is another layer to it as well.

 

[JL Unlimited]

^^^

Joker makes off with hostages from the hospital and Dent is still unaccounted for so Gordon thinks Joker also kidnapped Dent.

 

[Anita18]

question: when gordon and the police are surveying the building with the hostages dressed like goons why does he tell batman that harvey is in there with them?

They never found Dent in the hospital, so they wrongly assume he's on the bus that Joker took hostage, along with Mike Engel.

 

[inflames]

^^^

Joker makes off with hostages from the hospital and Dent is still unaccounted for so Gordon thinks Joker also kidnapped Dent.

oh yea! duh...brain fart.

 

[Zimmy]

How so? Batman could still take the rap and Harvey's rep isn't dented (no pun) until the eventual conflict that neither Gordon or Bats imagine coming of Two-Face escaping from Arkham and showing everybody what he has become arises.

I just assumed if Dent is still alive he would own up to the murders.
Remember, the point was to show how much of a White Knight he was.
Not much of a hero if he is locked up behind bars, is he?
Why would they lock him up in Arkham if he didn't commit any crime?
Gordon was going to say Dent was clean as a whistle.

 

[chaseter]

Just because it doesn't fit your personal criteria of what a 1 star movie is don't go off asuming everybody gauges what a 1 star movie the same way you do.

A 10 scale critique of something isn't that hard to figure out It even explains it in the poll A 1/10 is obviously a tragedy and wasted time spent while a 10/10 is a glorious film and well time spent. Not that hard to figure out unless you live in Bizarro world.

 

[Solidus]

I totally get where Guard is coming from. Even without citing why he wouldn't do it in the comics and just looking at the Nolan verse it's borderline stupid for him to compromise the relationship he built with the police from the last movie to this one. I said this in my review

"Batman's final decision to take the blame for Two-Face's actions did not sit right with me initially. It really seemed unneccessary and out of character I also think it took away from the tragedy of Dent's arc. It would've been more impactful and I think more influential to the people of Gotham to see what succumbing to rage induced madness could do to even the greatest of their citizens.

I think it would've influenced them to be stronger and more on their guard as a city than anything else since even such a seemingly heroic figure could be broken down. However at the same time I think it raises an interesting premise for another film and one that would be interesting to see explored in a Batman film so for that reason alone I could buy it. Also since according to the Maroni and Batman scene the criminals are of the knowledge that Batman doesn't kill which makes them view him as somewhat soft I think it ups his intimidation factor amongst the lowly criminals since now in their eyes there are apparently no extremes that he wouldn't reach."

Ultimately the only reason I accepted it is cause of the bold, the premise that it could develop for the third film and what the Nolan's could do with it is intriguing. It's an interesting theme to explore with Batman and I look forward to it but that setup initially had me put my head down cause you could still keep an element of hope in the city whether they find out about Two-Face or not.

It could make for an interesting third. But even just with in TDK itself I saw the sacrafice as something showing how much our world has changed in the last decade. Its not as a simple of a place as it use to be. And Batman always changes with the times, even if some are not wanting that, its what most mythologies do.

And I just thought it really showed that Batman would reward those with faith in him, as time went on. And that Gotham needed a gift of faith then, after what the Joker had done. And revealing Two-Face would have broken the spirit of Gotham, and sunk us even lower. To me it was cool that Bats does not just take the physical burden of cleaning up the trash in Gotham, but the mental trash as well.

 

[Jokerin2012]

I thought that the ending was amazing. I mean, they didn't kill off Joker and that made me smile.

 

[Cain]

I just assumed if Dent is still alive he would own up to the murders.
Remember, the point was to show how much of a White Knight he was.
Not much of a hero if he is locked up behind bars, is he?
Why would they lock him up in Arkham if he didn't commit any crime?
Gordon was going to say Dent was clean as a whistle.

lol he went mad with rage to the point of becoming a murderer and kidnapping and threatening to kill Jim Gordon's family. How could they not lock him in Arkham after that? assuming he did survive.

A 10 scale critique of something isn't that hard to figure out It even explains it in the poll A 1/10 is obviously a tragedy and wasted time spent while a 10/10 is a glorious film and well time spent. Not that hard to figure out unless you live in Bizarro world.

Before you start rolling your eyes again like a female I'll explain what I meant. You think people would rate a movie a 1 and that automatically would group it with movies like Pluto Nash or whatever. But it could've been rated a 1 in comparison to how that person felt it measures up against other crime fiction movies not neccessarily all genres in general. Everybody has a different criteria when it comes to how they dish out ratings regardless of the type of rating system they use.

 

[chaseter]

^This is a superhero movie...not a crime fiction movie. So if you want to relate it to others in the same genre...go ahead. Anyways, his review was positive and he gave it a 1/10 for kicks so this argument is null.

As for differeing systems...I would love to meet a person that cannot honestly understand a 1-10 scale or bizarely rates movies on it as such. WTF was with the 'before you start rolling your eyes like a female'?

 

[inflames]

it felt like a thriller to me.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

^This is a superhero movie...not a crime fiction

I agree. Someone should have told them this.

 

[Cain]

It could make for an interesting third. But even just with in TDK itself I saw the sacrafice as something showing how much our world has changed in the last decade. Its not as a simple of a place as it use to be. And Batman always changes with the times, even if some are not wanting that, its what most mythologies do.

Can't say I disagree there.

And I just thought it really showed that Batman would reward those with faith in him, as time went on. And that Gotham needed a gift of faith then, after what the Joker had done.

This still could've been accomplished without resorting to that outcome. The Joker managed to break the city's hero but on the plus side the people on the ferry boats proved the strong will the city still possesed. That could've been highlighted by the authorities when addressing the public about Two-Face.

And revealing Two-Face would have broken the spirit of Gotham, and sunk us even lower.

Once again they could've stated how regardless of the tragedy they still managed to defeat the threat that The Joker embodied showing how as a city they did whatever it took to not succumb to terrorists which is a characteristic of strength. That yes there was a tragedy but future tragedies were also prevented for the time being. Their spirits could've grown more knowing they have to be even more alert and strong as people whenever their city is in jeapordy again. But what's done is done.

To me it was cool that Bats does not just take the physical burden of cleaning up the trash in Gotham, but the mental trash as well.

That is interesting though.

 

[Cain]

^This is a superhero movie...not a crime fiction movie.

Batman is by nature crime fiction everybody knows this is a superhero movie but every superhero movie doesn't adhere to the same subgenres. Fantastic Four is sci-fi fantasy, The Crow is a revenge film etc.

As for differeing systems...I would love to meet a person that cannot honestly understand a 1-10 scale or bizarely rates movies on it as such.

Is not understanding it is the measure they use to appoint those ratings some people will rate a movie they deemed mediocre & not worth their time a 5/10 others could deem a movie they didn't find mediocre but just enjoyable and not brilliant a 5/10. But yeah this is pretty stupid.

WTF was with the 'before you start rolling your eyes like a female'?

This emoticon:

 

[chaseter]

How did you figure that was a woman??? But yeah, I agree Batman falls in the subgenre of crime fiction but in no way should be compared to films like The Departed or The Godfather.

 

[Solidus]

Can't say I disagree there.



This still could've been accomplished without resorting to that outcome. The Joker managed to break the city's hero but on the plus side the people on the ferry boats proved the strong will the city still possesed. That could've been highlighted by the authorities when addressing the public about Two-Face.



Once again they could've stated how regardless of the tragedy they still managed to defeat the threat that The Joker embodied showing how as a city they did whatever it took to not succumb to terrorists which is a characteristic of strength. That yes there was a tragedy but future tragedies were also prevented for the time being. Their spirits could've grown more knowing they have to be even more alert and strong as people whenever their city is in jeapordy again. But what's done is done.

True it could have been done this way. Very interesting indeed.

 

[Cain]

How did you figure that was a woman???

Usually when women are peeved they roll their eyes at whoever is annoying them.

But yeah, I agree Batman falls in the subgenre of crime fiction but in no way should be compared to films like The Departed or The Godfather.

Definitely agree with you there I certainly wouldn't do that I think this is the best accomplishment of the superhero film genre to date but there is still room for growth and I can't measure it with the same stick I use to measure more intricate and traditional dramas just yet. There are some comic book movies I would stay stand up to those 2 in terms of dramatic pathos, direction, writing, performances and all but they're not superhero movies. That being said my point is there will be people who would compare it to those type of movies that's what I mean, not everybody thinks the same when it comes to critiquing art.

 

[chaseter]

Definitely, The Dark Knight is now the reference point in which all superhero movies to come will be compared against. I wish other franchises will allow a movie to delve deeper into issues like TDK instead of just being a camp fest like F4:2.

 

[flash13]

I really wish peeps would stop treating this movie as if it was "the best thing since sliced bread". It was good but damn it wasnt all that great.

thats just your opinion
i think it was great!

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Yea, his opinion was pretty awesome.