Something is off with these posts. Like @Venom 1988 suggests maybe this is your theory or maybe a studio plant or something trying to spin the narrative, but either way....these posts feel....like you're trying to se me something.
It's very simple. Not everyone hates RDJ's casting.
You do and you've made it clear with every post that nothing will sell you on it (you've used the words "sucks" and "stupid" ad nauseam).
I'm simply interested in actually discussing RDJ's casting. I don't have a beef with it and this alleged leak presents a thematically sound and clever scenario that makes it work rather than amount to stunt casting.
It's very simple. Not everyone hates RDJ's casting.
You do and you've made it clear with every post that nothing will sell you on it (you've used the words "sucks" and "stupid" ad nauseam).
I'm simply interested in actually discussing RDJ's casting. I don't have a beef with it and this alleged leak presents a thematically sound and clever scenario that makes it work rather than amount to stunt casting.
Posted this in the Doomsday thread. Figured it belongs here too.
There's a leak going around that sounds legit.
I honestly hated RDJ's casting as Doom and pretty much lost my enthusiasm for the coming Avengers movies. Then I ran into this leak. Now I'm not only very excited for Doomsday and Secret Wars, but I'm actually loving RDJ's casting.
If this isn't true, then I don't know any other way they can sell casting RDJ as Doom that actually makes sense.
The ideas that this presents are MASSIVE.
-RDJ's face was always Doom's
-Every Doom across the Multiverse looks like RDJ
-We are yet to see the face of a real Tony Stark
And the thematic proposition is even greater: they're aiming to explore the concept of nature vs. nurture with this saga. If you raise Victor von Doom properly, under good conditions and good parents, you get a hero. But if you allow Victor von Doom to be raised under harsh conditions, in Latveria, you get a supervillain. He's either the best of us or the worst of us.
I rewatched the entire Infinity Saga with this in mind and it changes everything.
Tony is too smart. Tony's dark aspirations mirror Doom's. But the heroism and his heroic surroundings kept him from going the path of his multiversal counterparts.
This also explains why RDJ insists he's playing Victor von Doom and not a Tony Stark variant. If this is legit, the Doom we're getting is 100% classic Doctor Doom.
Lastly, I like the inclusion of
Kang who is obviously the unseen figure. For the people that wanted more Kang this is a subtle way to include him without having to bring back Majors or recast him. This is a classic Kang move. Planting his ancestor in the 616 to ensure his own birth a few millennia later.
Imagine Reed/Pedro's reaction when arriving in the 616 and seeing a monument to Tony Stark. Craziness.
This isn’t interesting. It’s just a way to design the plot around RDJ rather than weave Doom into the narrative organically. The switched at birth thing is soapy, convoluted, and diminishes years worth of storytelling.
If they wanted to do nature vs. nurture, just introduce Superior Iron Man.
This isn’t interesting. It’s just a way to design the plot around RDJ rather than weave Doom into the narrative organically. The switched at birth thing is soapy, convoluted, and diminishes years worth of storytelling.
If they wanted to do nature vs. nurture, just introduce Superior Iron Man.
Superior Iron Man just looks like a different Iron Man to the GA. Doctor Doom is more recognizable and makes for a better overall villain to the Multiverse Saga than "Evil Tony Stark".
Doom is also accurate to the Secret Wars comics, which the studio almost handed over to Kang (rolls eyes).
I'm thrilled that we're getting Doom and if the alleged leak is true,
the nature vs nurture concept
really fits well into a saga that's primarily about choice.
Last, the leak doesn't propose a switched at birth scenario.
Kang, who is clearly the unseen figure, is planting Doom there to secure his own existence thousands of years later.
It doesn't diminish 616 Tony/Doom at all. It just adds a new layer to how his hero's quest came to be. The same way us finding out Loki wasn't Asgardian but rather a Frost Giant, gave him a broader origin. Rather than just "jealous bro" it sold us on the idea of a king who had been robbed of his throne.
This isn’t interesting. It’s just a way to design the plot around RDJ rather than weave Doom into the narrative organically. The switched at birth thing is soapy, convoluted, and diminishes years worth of storytelling.
If they wanted to do nature vs. nurture, just introduce Superior Iron Man.
You realize that if tomorrow THR or Variety report that the leak is true or partially true or an earlier draft of that opening scene, you're still going to hate these movies, right?
You're a buzzkill in this thread.
A "Doctor Doom" thread where all you do is complain and pontificate on how you'd rather see Superior Iron Man (LOL) be the villain of the next Avengers movies rather than Doctor Doom. Its laughable, man.
You realize that if tomorrow THR or Variety report that the leak is true or partially true or an earlier draft of that opening scene, you're still going to hate these movies, right?
You're a buzzkill in this thread.
A "Doctor Doom" thread where all you do is complain and pontificate on how you'd rather see Superior Iron Man (LOL) be the villain of the next Avengers movies rather than Doctor Doom. Its laughable, man.
Not at all my argument. Also nice attempt to distract from the fact you still haven't posted a source. You're deflecting, and it's obvious. You can take your fan fiction elsewhere.
Not at all my argument. Also nice attempt to distract from the fact you still haven't posted a source. You're deflecting, and it's obvious. You can take your fan fiction elsewhere.
What argument? You don't have one. You hate RDJ as Doom. We get it. That's your position. "RDJ as Doom is stupid." Okay. Great. Move on with your life.
What argument? You don't have one. You hate RDJ as Doom. We get it. That's your position. "RDJ as Doom is stupid." Okay. Great. Move on with your life.
You're still deflecting my man. Just cause you have a theory and you want to share it doesn't mean people have to be like "Alright, excellent idea bro!" This is a forum for public consumption. You're posting an alleged "leak" that's probably an idea you came up with, but even if it is an actual "leak" you read, people don't have to just....enjoy the idea. These threads don't exist for positive opinions only. If this bothers you, ignore me or go somewhere else. That simple. This is an excellent example of toxic positivity. Don't ask questions. Consume product. Have a negative opinion? Just shut up! I have an opinion and I will voice whatever the heck I want
You realize that if tomorrow THR or Variety report that the leak is true or partially true or an earlier draft of that opening scene, you're still going to hate these movies, right?
You're a buzzkill in this thread.
A "Doctor Doom" thread where all you do is complain and pontificate on how you'd rather see Superior Iron Man (LOL) be the villain of the next Avengers movies rather than Doctor Doom. Its laughable, man.
In the time that you wrote all of this you could have just copied and pasted the link where you found this. Thats it, it's so simple to do. But for whatever reason you dont want to do this.
You're still deflecting my man. Just cause you have a theory and you want to share it doesn't mean people have to be like "Alright, excellent idea bro!" This is a forum for public consumption. You're posting an alleged "leak" that's probably an idea you came up with, but even if it is an actual "leak" you read, people don't have to just....enjoy the idea. These threads don't exist for positive opinions only. If this bothers you, ignore me or go somewhere else. That simple
No deflection. I shared an alleged leak. There will probably be another dozen alleged leaks online prior to Doomsday's release. Some will be nonsense, some will be great. The fun of leaks is that some of them end up being real. Tobey and Andrew in NWH. Krasinski in MoM. Good times.
You say this is a forum for public consumption. What are you contributing to a Doctor Doom thread other than "This sucks" and "RDJ as Doom sucks"? You're not discussing anything because you're unwilling to validate the topic at hand. Its like going into the Thunderbolts threads and saying "This blows" over and over and over.
I'm willing to have actual discussions with you, but you gotta do better than "This sucks".
No deflection. I shared an alleged leak. There will probably be another dozen alleged leaks online prior to Doomsday's release. Some will be nonsense, some will be great. The fun of leaks is that some of them end up being real. Tobey and Andrew in NWH. Krasinski in MoM. Good times.
You say this is a forum for public consumption. What are you contributing to a Doctor Doom thread other than "This sucks" and "RDJ as Doom sucks"? You're not discussing anything because you're unwilling to validate the topic at hand. Its like going into the Thunderbolts threads and saying "This blows" over and over and over.
I'm willing to have actual discussions with you, but you gotta do better than "This sucks".
I have elaborated on my points plenty with details beyond "this sucks" and you just don't like that I am trashing your fanfic idea. You are free to think whatever you want, to enjoy whatever you want, or discuss whatever you want that doesn't violate site rules. Just as I am free to comment on those same concepts your posting with whatever positive or negative opinion I have. Don't like it, doesn't matter. Same choices of either engaging in conversation, ignoring me, or going somewhere else to find people who enjoy your idea more. I don't care what you choose. But I am going comment however I want.
All parties need to just chill and agree to disagree. No need for membera to tell other members to shut up or going in circles go on saying they will say what they want when they have already their position clear.
I hate the idea of RDJ as Doom and the leak or fan fick is absurd, the whole thing with RDJ seems absurd no matter how I try to spin it in my head.
All parties need to just chill and agree to disagree. No need for membera to tell other members to shut up or going in circles go on saying they will say what they want when they have already their position clear.
I hate the idea of RDJ as Doom and the leak or fan fick is absurd, the whole thing with RDJ seems absurd no matter how I try to spin it in my head.
RDJ as Doom seemed absurd to me at first. An epic WTF and a painful one because it came just moments after Doomsday was announced, which confirmed that we really were getting Doom instead of more boring Kang.
I rewatched the entire Infinity Saga after coming across this alleged leak. It sold me. To be honest, I always felt Tony was too smart in those movies. He was giving the absent Reed Richards a run for his money lol when you rewatch those films with the notion that
this is Victor von Doom raised by good people and bred to be a force for good
it really works.
The other thing I really like which it posits, is that
No you haven't you shared a screenshot of unknown origin and refuse to cite the source. Despite the fact that according to you this is allegedly "making the rounds" so surely this should have popped up elsewhere. It's been 2 days and you still haven't posted an actual source.
This is the MCU though. Not comics. We are not even getting a 616 Reed. The Reed we are getting is from whatever they label the FF: First Steps world. Ideally Doom SHOULD be smarter than Tony, but I don't think we need a switched at birth mechanic simply to correct something like this to be more comic accurate.
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