The Dark Knight Rises The End

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i noticed trailers and posters are all making sure we all know this is the final batman movie of at least nolans vision of batman

why do you think nolan has made this decision to end it after 3 movies? and do you feel you seen everything you could want from nolans batman?

and how would you feel if they killed batman off?

i know we have yet to see TDKR
 
Nolan is ending it because he doesn't want the next team to either USE his vision and mess it up, or be TIED to his vision and feel boxed in. I prefer it this way to be honest. Much like the JLA film was going to USE Nolan's version of Batman. One of the big reasons that movie didn't happen.

Just don't rehash an origin in the next set of films. Give me an established Batman who is on top of his game.

If Nolan 'kills' Batman off by an act of heroism and he sacrifices himself to save Gotham, that would be perfect.

I don't see killing Batman off as a bad thing. They did it in Dark Knight Returns. I think Batman may 'die' but Bruce Wayne will live on as the White Knight of Gotham.
 
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i noticed trailers and posters are all making sure we all know this is the final batman movie of at least nolans vision of batman

why do you think nolan has made this decision to end it after 3 movies? and do you feel you seen everything you could want from nolans batman?

and how would you feel if they killed batman off?

i know we have yet to see TDKR


Reread the Dark Knight Returns today... I hope that the ending is Batman literally fighting Bane for control of Gotham the way he fights the Mutant Leader... If that happens I will be so happy i think i will float away!!
 
I do wish we had one more Batman movie from Nolan to look forward to after this, only because Nolan has covered pretty much every notable Batman villain except for Riddler and the Penguin, and one more movie would allow him to finalize a full interpretation of each main villain. I think the Penguin would probably be a crime lord or mob boss of some sort, but Nolan's Riddler would be mind-blowing, since he's got a knack for twisted storytelling.

Ah well, if TDKR is everything it looks like it will be, complaints will be hard to make against a perfect trilogy.
 
Because the story demands it. Stakes can only be raised so high before any threat to the hero and integrity to the series is dissolved by repetition and familiarity. Nolan is too damn smart to let his baby go down that road, and I thank him for it.
 
Because the story demands it. Stakes can only be raised so high before any threat to the hero and integrity to the series is dissolved by repetition and familiarity. Nolan is too damn smart to let his baby go down that road, and I thank him for it.
Great post.
 
I think the Penguin would probably be a crime lord or mob boss of some sort, but Nolan's Riddler would be mind-blowing, since he's got a knack for twisted storytelling.


But Nolan thinks the Riddler is just a watered down Joker. :oldrazz:
 
I dont thing Batman will die in this movie. I mean give me a break. Batman can beat anyone. Even death. Especially if he had enough time to prepare for it. Like 8 years or something...

Did anyone else see that Batman was just roughed up by Chinese Security?
 
I dont think Batman will die in this movie. I mean give me a break. Batman can beat anyone. Even death. Especially if he had enough time to prepare for it. Like 8 years or something...

Did anyone else see that Batman was just roughed up by Chinese Security?
 
Because Michael Bay did this (on least he originally planed this) for the 3rd Transformers movies, as he wanted to make it an epic ending, as Christopher Nolan is a big fan he tought it was a good idea :D
 
Yeah I strongly doubt Batman is going to die. They WANT you to believe that Batman could possibly be done once and for all. They wouldn't spoil the outcome by entering "The Legend Ends" on the poster or by showing Bruce as a prisoner. Would he hang up his costume? Maybe, after defeating Bane. But I'm sure Nolan wants to finish up his trilogy by sending everyone home happy.
 
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I think Batman will die, but not Bruce Wayne. I think it will come full circle to batman begins. Bruce's dad wanted Gotham to eventually be Bruce's city... and when they died everything went to ****. Bruce had to fight crime and bring those to justice as a symbol.. and you started to see at the end of TDK that Gotham was beginning to "come around".. Bane will give it one last shot to try and make Gotham and its people evil and it will be an epic battle between batman's best and Crime's best (bane).. when its all over Batman will win, and hang up the cowl and will have made Gotham into what the wayne family originally intended. Bruce never wanted to be Batman, he HAD to be batman.. but not forever. Batman Begins, The Dark knight (falls), The dark knight rises (batman ends)
 
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I think by the end of the film Bruce will be forced to walk with a cane for the rest of his years, unable to work as Batman again even if he wanted to. (but never say never, there's always power suits!)
So Batman will be killed off in a way, but could be replaced by someone else if there's truth to those rumours.
 
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I've always been extremely impressed by the passion, care and love Nolan has shown for the Batman universe during his time as director of the this newest set of movies.

Why end it at three? I would like to believe that Nolan wants to keep the integrity of his Batman work intact and rather than drag out the series for longer than it needs to be dragged out for just to make a **** ton of money like some movie makers do, he wants to end it on a high note.

He obviously has his own Batman story to tell and wants to tell it his way. I respect him for that. In addition, as creative as a guy as he is, I doubt he wants to simply keep making Batman movies the rest of his life. It doesn't appear like he's the type of guy who likes to go through the motions. He wants to get out before it becomes tired and stale for himself.
 
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Hopefully they'll make a Batman Beyond film set in the future of the Nolanverse.
 
Nolan's ending after three films because he doesn't want to make anymore. Three movies is a lot of commitment to make (5-6 years devoted just to Batman). He wants to do other things.

Am I said it's ending? Well, it's honestly been my favorite interpretation of Batman to date (sans the costumes). I obviously would like to see more of this world. But I'm fine with it having some finality, as long as it ends strong.
 
I do wish we had one more Batman movie from Nolan to look forward to after this, only because Nolan has covered pretty much every notable Batman villain except for Riddler and the Penguin, and one more movie would allow him to finalize a full interpretation of each main villain. I think the Penguin would probably be a crime lord or mob boss of some sort, but Nolan's Riddler would be mind-blowing, since he's got a knack for twisted storytelling.

Ah well, if TDKR is everything it looks like it will be, complaints will be hard to make against a perfect trilogy.

Agreed. This is all I've been thinking about once it was revealed TDKR takes place 8 years after TDK. I do think Batman was active during that time gap, so I'm sad to know we won't know of any of his adventures during those 8 years. Even if Nolan think the Riddler is a "watered down Joker", there's plenty of other villains (Penguin, Black Mask, Clayface could be a master of disguise however this would be a very craptacular interpretation, Mr. Freeze could be done realistically if you just take away the goofy suit, Killer Croc could be done realistically...etc etc.)... also, we don't know if Catwoman is established in TDKR or she gets an origin... so if she's established in TDKR, then a movie in-between TDK and TDKR could give Catwoman her origin...

I just feel the 8 year gap leaves open the potential for a perfect QUADRILOGY of films... but then again I haven't seen TDKR yet so I don't know how it all fits together/plays out.

Even still, since TDKR looks to be so dour and depressing for Bruce Wayne, one Nolan Batman movie where Batman is just rockin' in Gotham and kicking supervillain a$$ could have been fun to watch... just a good ol' fashion crime noir using the Riddler or gangster pic using Penguin, or someone else...
 
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Agreed. This is all I've been thinking about once it was revealed TDKR takes place 8 years after TDK. I do think Batman was active during that time gap, so I'm sad to know we won't know of any of his adventures during those 8 years. Even if Nolan think the Riddler is a "watered down Joker", there's plenty of other villains (Penguin, Black Mask, Clayface could be a master of disguise however this would be a very craptacular interpretation, Mr. Freeze could be done realistically if you just take away the goofy suit, Killer Croc could be done realistically...etc etc.)... also, we don't know if Catwoman is established in TDKR or she gets an origin... so if she's established in TDKR, then a movie in-between TDK and TDKR could give Catwoman her origin...

I just feel the 8 year gap leaves open the potential for a perfect QUADRILOGY of films... but then again I haven't seen TDKR yet so I don't know how it all fits together/plays out.

Even still, since TDKR looks to be so dour and depressing for Bruce Wayne, one Nolan Batman movie where Batman is just rockin' in Gotham and kicking supervillain a$$ could have been fun to watch... just a good ol' fashion crime noir using the Riddler or gangster pic using Penguin, or someone else...

Perhaps, but given everything that we've seen and heard about TDKR, honestly, how would they be able to top all of that without making a film that felt repetitive?

I mean imho, the goal in any franchise should be to make the next film even bigger and better than the last one...with each entry to the franchise having its special place and mark... and honestly, given what we've seen of Bane so far, could the likes of Penguin and Riddler be presented in a way that they could provide a threat to Gotham BIGGER than the villains that we've seen and gotten thus far?

I think with franchises such as Star Wars and Harry Potter, the reason why they were able to to make so many successful films is because the creators had a beginning and end point that they knew that they had to reach by, and that each franchise had ONE MAIN Villain that the series was building up to see their eventual defeat (Voldermort and Emperor Palpatine)
 
Because the story demands it. Stakes can only be raised so high before any threat to the hero and integrity to the series is dissolved by repetition and familiarity. Nolan is too damn smart to let his baby go down that road, and I thank him for it.

Thanks in part has to go to WB for allowing him to do it. They could very easily have said no to keep the series going as a cash cow after Nolan, but to their credit they are letting him end the series. It's kinda unprecedented in terms of superhero franchises, we've never had a series with a definitive end.
 
thanks in part has to go to wb for allowing him to do it. They could very easily have said no to keep the series going as a cash cow after nolan, but to their credit they are letting him end the series. It's kinda unprecedented in terms of superhero franchises, we've never had a series with a definitive end.

+ 1,000,000.
 
Thanks in part has to go to WB for allowing him to do it. They could very easily have said no to keep the series going as a cash cow after Nolan, but to their credit they are letting him end the series. It's kinda unprecedented in terms of superhero franchises, we've never had a series with a definitive end.


Agreed; and we've never had a DC Franchise that's had a director stay on for Three films... Donner made it past one really (didn't finish filming Superman 2), Burton and Joel never got past 2, and we all know about GL.lol

I'm glad for once that a successful superhero franchise will finally be allowed to keep its integrity and quality and end on a note where people won't have to think:

"Sigh, they should have ended it at Batman #....."

lol
 

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