The Eternals General Disscussion and Speculation thread

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  1. Albright Premiere Access

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  2. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    . . . that sounds *incredibly* stupid, on so many levels. Sigh, this is why I largely don't follow any actual comics these days. . .
     
  3. Castor troy Registered

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    Where was this leak from?
     
  4. Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    Nice shots :up:
     
  5. Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    I like what she has to say about the film and good that it has a big impact on the future if the MCU. I’d be happy if it helped set X-Men up.
     
  6. imbruglia Registered

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    it was from reddit. someone who saw test screening. it lacked lots of details tho.
     
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    They were about to do something very loud (no spoilers!) on the outdoor set of Marvel’s “Eternals,” and this foolish woman didn’t want earplugs.
    “Are you sure?” he asked.

    Well, if I’m wrong, this is definitely going to be a first, thought Lauren Ridloff, an actress who has been deaf since birth. She plays Makkari, the first deaf superhero in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in “Eternals,” which is due in theaters on Nov. 5.

    “I really did feel like a superhero at that moment,” she said. “Everyone else was like ‘Wow, that was loud!’”

    This is the first major role in a feature film for Ridloff, who’s become known for playing Connie, a survivor, in “The Walking Dead.” (She’s shooting the final season now.) In “Eternals,” from the Oscar-winning director Chloé Zhao, she is the supersonically speedy scout on a team of 10 immortal guardians of humanity that also includes Kumail Nanjiani and Angelina Jolie.

    In the comics, Ridloff’s character is a hulking, hearing white man. She’s not exactly sure what made the “Eternals” casting director Sarah Finn look at her and say, “Yes, Makkari!” but she’s of course glad it happened.

    “It means my two boys, who are also deaf, will grow up in a world where there are superheroes who are deaf,” said Ridloff, whose children are 7 and 9. “It means they’ll be able to dream a bit more wildly.”

    How did you land this role?
    I brought my son to an audition — I can’t tell you what for! — and the casting director saw me and wanted to cast me for something else. Then a few months later the casting director reached out to my manager and said, “We want to consider Lauren for a Marvel film, and I can’t tell you what it is.” I was like, ‘Wait, this is Marvel, seriously?” My first thought was maybe it would be “Black Panther.” Then I got the call that the director of the movie wanted to meet with me, so I dropped everything and came to L.A. Chloé Zhao and [executive producer] Nate Moore broke everything down and asked if I was interested, and my immediate answer was yes.

    In the comics, Makkari is a hulking, hearing white dude. Were they specifically looking for a nonwhite, deaf, female actor?
    To be honest, I don’t know much about how they made that decision. But I love that they decided to make Makkari everything he’s not in the comic books — he’s a huge guy, let’s find someone tiny. He’s blond, let’s find someone who has Black hair. He’s a man, let’s go with a woman. He’s hearing, and now the character’s deaf.

    What were some of the logistical challenges on set?
    In some scenes, I had to face a wall. As a deaf person, how do you cue me? At one point, I was sharing my frustration with Angie — Angelina Jolie — at a holiday party after a day of shooting. And she immediately made a suggestion — why don’t we use a laser pen that special effects can easily erase? It was an “Aha, wow” moment. Whenever I’m looking at a wall, the interpreters would use a laser pen to make a circle on the wall — “rolling, rolling, rolling” — and once it went away that meant, “Action!”

    What do you hope people take away from this film?
    Growing up, I didn’t dream about becoming an actor. I didn’t see myself on the screen. As a little girl, I thought I was one of only a few deaf people walking on this Earth. Now, as an adult, I’m aware there are at least 466 million deaf people and hard-of-hearing people out there. I’m not the only one. And that’s what it means to have a deaf superhero — a lot more people will see a lot more possibility.

    How Lauren Ridloff’s Deafness Became a Superpower in Marvel’s ‘Eternals’
     
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    She has superspeed, something I want to see the most in the MCU.
     
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  10. Dr. Evil Registered

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    Well he's been dead for a long time now. It was an asinine move to kill him off.
     
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  11. Drizzle Eh.

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    Whedon gonna Whedon, although that really could have been a Fox thing since they still owned the character at the time.
     
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    "I actually pitched Eternals to Kevin Feige and Nate Moore the day before I got into my van and rove to do Nomadland" "I remenber, as I was leaving, Victoria Alonso said, 'Make sure you come back. it's going to be a long journey.' I drove away the next morning to the desert"

    "I was not familiar with them" she laughs. "I think not a lot of people are familiar with them" But she saw soemthing there. "I loved the idea that it's an ensemble film" Zhao continues. "And it is a film that allowed me to really explore a lot of the inner struggles and questions that I have about us as human beings, and out place in the universe, and out purpose, and things like identity. When I read the treatment for Eternals, I thought 'what an incredible way to explore that in an allegorical and fanstical way' which is the type of storytelling that really excites me."

    "To be a fan of the MCU, and to be able to go back in time to sort of explore the mythology and history of the MCU as a fan, was definitely a treat" she adds.

    "I do find that when they are willing to open themselves up and give you a sense of who they are on screen, it really adds something, especially in this type of fillmmaking" explains Zhao.
    "when you're fighting with cosmic energy at the same time" laughs Zhao, "it's something that grounds the character."

    what makes Eternals a particularly 'Zhao' film also extends to the locations, cinematography and lack of greenscreen-heavy soundstage environments these films usually shoot on. "we always said there was sort of National Geographic approach to things" say Zhao. "We wanted it to feel like these are real places and we moved the camera that way"

    "some thing Chloe Zhao is very good at - and Josh James Richards who is out camera operator, who's been the DoP of all her movies, was also really good at - is capturing people in the context of their surroundings" says Nanjiani.
    "If you watch Nomadland or The Rider, there's really broad, beautiful vistas. so you see the context these characters exist in. And Eternals definitely has a lot of that. We've barely used any bluescreen or any greenscreen. it was all on location, on islands, in deserts, on mountains. Everything was real."

    "Sometimes it felt like the world's biggest-budget indie movie" says harington. "she struck true to her way of directing, but with all these means. I felt a bit like it was the MCU stepping out of the soundstage and into the real world. The camerawork was very freewheeling and beautiful" it gave the cast further freedom to roam.

    "If they love improvising, that's plus for me" says Zhao. "If they love giving things from their real life. that's, you know, the icing on the cake"

    "I think that's true for a lot of the people playing the parts" adds Jolie. "It was funny, we would talk about it as actors, and say, 'oh, it's so strange. My character's so much like me in this aread. it's so funny' And then you realise it's something Chloe had done."

    Many of the cast also speak in their own accent, adding to the sense of naturalism and the story's global flavour. "We had conversations about if we're all doing same accent, or a different accent" remembers Madden. "it just kind of naturally fell on everyone using different accents. some of them were their own accents, and some were other accents that they've adopted. And I think it kind of helped paint this picture of these very different people, that I don't think we'd be able to get if we all just sounds American. I think it's really good we have this diversity"
     
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    And now he basically went after her. It's obvious he's afraid that Eternals is going to be bigger hit than Dune.
     
  16. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

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    I'm not sure about that, but sometimes opening your mouth makes you look rather small and petty....like this case. The other problem is what if Eternals IS the bigger hit and/or the reception is better? Dune is getting good reviews so the latter may not be a problem, but still.....
     
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    During a discussion for Harper's Bazaar Mr. Villenueve told Ms. Zhao that "I’m your biggest fan. I think it’s genius that Marvel approached you because you’re the radical opposite of [the MCU] aesthetically." I don't know why these artistes can't just say "MCU movies are not my thing" and leave it at that, but Denis does think Chloe is pretty great.
     
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  18. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

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    That’s nice, but, in my opinion, it’s still a stupid statement. I don’t have anything against the guy and I want his movie to succeed, but sometimes, the less said the better. I think the best way to approach things is to complement where you can and unless you think something is particularly dangerous, just keep your mouth shut about other peoples work. No one has a monopoly on what is and isn’t good in the eyes of the public
     
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  19. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    I think its that last part which is the sticking point for a subset of directors. They don't think that at all, they think that auteur directors like themselves absolutely *should* have a monopoly on deciding what is "good", and the consistent financial *and critical* success of Marvel Studios feels uncomfortably like someone telling them that, hey, the emperor isn't actually wearing any clothes.
     
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    It is odd that supposed artistes are now comfortable commenting negatively on the work of their fellow creators. I don't recall this happening previously, certainly not to this extent. I understand that the changing exhibition environment has made folks edgy, but it comes off as wildly unprofessional.
     
  21. Bren Forevernoob

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    I don't mind at all someone saying they don't like something. In fact, I appreciate the honesty and straight forwardness.

    It's the seeming 'insulting' of that medium or genre that annoys me.
     
  22. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

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    There are ways to say things that I don't have a problem with.
     
  23. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    This movie doesn't totally feel like a copy and paste from previous Mcu films. Maybe Denis should watch Eternals as well (and all mcu films).:rolleyes:
     
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    I mean I like Chloe, but I wouldn't call her style soooo aesthetically different from other Marvel films. In fact I remember the first teaser trailer getting a little backlash because people said it's not as colorful or unique looking as the comics. Some people I talk to are excited for the film but still think it looks bland and colors too muted. Hey, to each their own. I think Denis was just trying to compliment her while throwing a backhand comment towards the MCU. If this film can have the same culture impact, awards season and critical acclaim as Black Panther then awesome. Black Panther also had amazing world building and I felt like I was actually in Wakanda when I watched that film.

    Let's see what Eternals can do
     

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