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Discussion in 'Eternals' started by psylockolussus, Sep 17, 2021.
I honestly can't fathom critics being harsher on this than they were on WW84.
I can understand why some people might not like this movie. But believing that it's worse than Iron Man 2, Thor 2, Amazing Spiderman 2, or Superman Returns, that's incomprehensible.
In my opinion it's not completely incomprehensible for all of those films just because people will have their own views and reactions. At least in Iron Man 2 you still have the likes of Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark. Thor 2 you still have Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, et al. For me Iron Man 2 has aged better than say Iron Man 3.
One of my big problems with Eternals is the character I seemed most invested again was a minor background character who was just there to set up future stories and shows. There's no one who really anchored me to the story and kept me interested and rooting for these guys.
It is also worse than the likes of Mortal Kombat in both critics and audience counts. Food for thought.
46% now and only 35% from top critics. I had problems with the writing in the movie and gave it a 6/10 (the more I think about it I'd maybe bump the movie up to 7/10 because I actually do want to see it again) but the current score is way too low.
Despite its faults this movie never fails to give me a fun time, and -as a defender of that series- it's the one movie in this bunch that made me enter long debates over its worth.
I even like the parents sub-plot, it puts the rest of the more fun stuff to a halt, but I dig it.
That the 1995 MK movie still pleases its fans and it has lower rating than both this and its dull counterpart of this year.
Eh, at this point most of the “reviews” coming in are from sites like SomeDudeWithAnInternetConnectionDotCom. Everyone is just piling on because it’s finally OK to hate a Marvel movie and some people who have been constipated for years now at last get to take their big dump on the franchise.
Or they just didn't like the movie.
Lol, funny. Yeah, it was only a matter of time. At some point, you'd think the franchise should come to an end. I imagine, the longer it goes on, the more negativity it may continue to receive.
The franchise is still struggling to answer the post-Endgame question of, why are we still here? Didn’t the Avengers save the universe? Done and dusted, story over, on to the Next Big Thing, right? Well, of course not, and Endgame’s ludicrous box office tells you why. But you need a better hook for audiences than, hey come see our new superhero movie because we want your money so give it to us! And three movies in phase 4 has yet to provide that hook. Until they do, I doubt they get much love outside us die hard fans.
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THREAD: ETERNALS MCU APPRECIATION 2021
THREAD: ETERNALS MCU APPRECIATION 2021
Eternals MCU Appreciation 2021 - Page 17
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I always expect audience scores to be higher for big blockbusters than critics scores. Why would you go to a movie you didn't expect to like?
I definitely didn't like Ragnarok, I also thought GOTG2 was cringe AF. Most of the jokes didn't even land, and Rocket was actually ****ing annoying. I also thought Captain Marvel, and Black Widow wasn't bad, just eye crossingly bland. And I'm just indifferent to the Spider-Man films. Some of the super high rated MCU movies don't deserve that high of a rating on RT. The ones I mentioned should have been in the mid 60s to mid 70s on RT. I felt they got a pass on too many above average movies imo. The only MCU movie that actually deserves it's critical acclaim is Winter Soldier, and Black Panther. I feel like the MCU took the tone that's better fit for a Fantastic Four film and welded it to all of their movies.
If anything, the MCU has a lack of focus at the moment. Previously, Thanos and the Infinity Stones were the connective tissue from Avengers on. Now, I think we have at least three threads playing out (Kang & the Multiverse, Dark Avengers / Thunderbolts, and Celestials shenanigans) and they're all kind of competing for attention and engagement with the audience instead of building on previous installments.
Supposedly they have things planned out in advance. The world is big enough to where I dont think it needs one singular focus. I actually hope they continue to distance themselves from that and let each microverse breath on it's own.
They seem to be focusing on cleaning up in the aftermath of that event, and introducing more players to attempt selling their comics.
Down again to 46%. This is 20% lower than Thor: The Dark World's 66%.
And it was 100% better than Thor: The Dark World
That says a lot more about the critics than the movie.
Disney's checks to the film critics didn't clear this time. The racist, sexist film critics were free to hate the new Marvel movie as much as they wanted.
Oh damn. I didn't realise it was getting this low. Thought it was nearer to 60%.
You can say it was that way last week, or a few days before. I'm also surprised it maintained the 5.6/10 average score and did not drop lower than that.
I dont understand why its so low....its certainly better than IM2 imo.
Even though technically not as well made as Eternals, I think critics gave Iron Man 2 and The Dark World a pass because both RDJ’s and Hiddleston’s charismatic performance still carries those movies, and they still have that conventional action-oriented Marvel tone. Eternals doesn’t quite have that luxury as there is no standout RDJ or a Hiddleston level charismatic performance carrying the movie and it’s pacing is a lot slower, and there is a lot of lore dump and characters; so much so that many have argued that Eternals should’ve been done as a television show to properly flesh those ideas out and give those ideas room to breathe. Also, while Eternals is a lot more ambitious and aims higher on a artistic level it doesn’t change the fact the central conflict can still be boiled down to a bunch of human looking aliens with generic powers fighting a bunch badly rendered CGI alien monsters for two hours as the ponder about the ethics of preventing a cosmically planned destruction of a planet they’ve been part of for centuries. So it’s actually pretty easy to see why someone would enjoy Iron Man 2 or even The Dark World over this.