Eternals The Eternals General Disscussion and Speculation thread

[MASTERASIA]

I mean the fact that you compared the score to Interstellar's RT meter shows you do care at least somewhat about it.

I mean who doesn't? The score don't represent that it deserve to be that low. A true score would be over 80%. Almost anyone can now join Rotten Tomatoe nowdays and I know it totally doesn't represent the true score that it should.

 

[Shuri]

Unremarkable, bland, dull, stiff. At least with Kit Harington, I got some sense Sersi and Dane Whitman were attracted to one another.

That's disappointing. Even in meh movies, Marvel have always gotten their heroes right. Somehow, they always find a way to make the audience fall in love with these characters. If Ikaris and Sersi are really as uninteresting as some said they were then this will be the first time Marvel mishandled their heroes.

 

[DyeLorean]

Well, I guess my worst intuitions came true (for me). I wasn't interested in this film and nothing that came out so far this week has managed to change my mind. I'm sadly skipping this one in theaters.

 

[Holy Slapper]

I mean who doesn't? The score don't represent that it deserve to be that low. A true score would be over 80%. Almost anyone can now join Rotten Tomatoe nowdays and I know it totally doesn't represent the true score that it should.

True score? It's ****ing math. And only 64 reviews listed.

 

[MASTERASIA]

True score? It's ****ing math. And only 64 reviews listed.

WTF are you talking about? Do you even know what I mean by "true score"? It's means by taking away stupid ass reviewers due to bias, trolls etc...

 

[TheVileOne]

I mean who doesn't? The score don't represent that it deserve to be that low. A true score would be over 80%. Almost anyone can now join Rotten Tomatoe nowdays and I know it totally doesn't represent the true score that it should.

Not really. I have friends who have been rejected before, as have I.

Captain Marvel a misfire...

I love it how people pretend how a movie that made a billion, got an A Cinemascore, 79% Fresh at RT, was a "misfire". WB/DC would be all over a misfire like that.

People are entitled to their opinion. Maybe some, not the gender men's right trolls, might genuinely find it to be one of Marvel Studios' weaker efforts. In my opinion, it's not a misfire. Not a great or favorite MCU film, but not a misfire.

I'm not going to call the movie a bomb or anything, but I think at this point, Marvel is entitled to one or two failures. And by failure, I mean something where they just truly fall flat on their face. I'm not even sure that's going to happen here because reviews still seem to lean toward the positive side, and we haven't seen box office yet.

It really pissed me off that some commentators were going in deep on calling Shang-Chi a flop before its release and making Simu Liu their latest "anti-woke anti SJW" target. Regardless of my feelings on this film, I loathe the idea of people using Eternals as some "anti-woke, anti-SJW" propaganda message.

 

[Holy Slapper]

WTF are you talking about? Do you even know what I mean by "true score"? It's means by taking away stupid ass reviewers due to bias, trolls etc...

Eh, when there's over 300-400 reviews, it's kind of meaningless. Plus who gives a **** if the score is X number bigger or lower than movie X? This isn't that serious. Live a little, life ain't over if Eternals gets a 70ish score at RT.

 

[TheVileOne]

To name a few like seriously WTF?

Contact 66%
Starship Troopers 66%
Apocalypto 66%
Kingdom of Heaven(DC) 39%

There was no Tomato Meter in 1982, but Blade Runner would likely not have been certified fresh. The Los Angeles Times critic called it "Blade Crawler."

I mean who doesn't? The score don't represent that it deserve to be that low. A true score would be over 80%. Almost anyone can now join Rotten Tomatoe nowdays and I know it totally doesn't represent the true score that it should.

I take the Tomato Meter for what it is. It's more or less an average of what most critics think about a film; usually at the time of its release. I think in the last 10 or so years, fans have gotten far too fixated on the Tomato Meter grade.

 

[Detective Conan]

@TheVileOne how was the score?

 

[TheVileOne]

@TheVileOne how was the score?

For me or Rotten Tomatoes? RT it's 73% now. I gave it 5/10.

 

[Detective Conan]

For me or Rotten Tomatoes? RT it's 73% now. I gave it 5/10.

I meant the music.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Not really. I have friends who have been rejected before, as have I.


People are entitled to their opinion. Maybe some, not the gender men's right trolls, might genuinely find it to be one of Marvel Studios' weaker efforts. In my opinion, it's not a misfire. Not a great or favorite MCU film, but not a misfire.

I'm not going to call the movie a bomb or anything, but I think at this point, Marvel is entitled to one or two failures. And by failure, I mean something where they just truly fall flat on their face. I'm not even sure that's going to happen here because reviews still seem to lean toward the positive side, and we haven't seen box office yet.

It really pissed me off that some commentators were going in deep on calling Shang-Chi a flop before its release and making Simu Liu their latest "anti-woke anti SJW" target. Regardless of my feelings on this film, I loathe the idea of people using Eternals as some "anti-woke, anti-SJW" propaganda message.

Let's be honest, those people want all of their superheroes to be white men.

 

[Ctfxcwatcher]

Well now the question becomes what did Marvel see in this film that made them think it could be their best ever? Orrrr did marvel ever say that and those were just unconfirmed rumors? I feel like Feige and co are very intune with the general audience and what we love about this franchise. Maybe they feel the need to prove themselves still since the film industry tries so hard to hate on them. Idk

 

[TheVileOne]

I meant the music.

Sorry, my wires got totally crossed on that one. I think Djawadi is a talented composer, but I didn't find score for Eternals particularly memorable.

Well now the question becomes what did Marvel see in this film that made them think it could be their best ever? Orrrr did marvel ever say that and those were just unconfirmed rumors? I feel like Feige and co are very intune with the general audience and what we love about this franchise. Maybe they feel the need to prove themselves still since the film industry tries so hard to hate on them. Idk

Did Feige say that? I mean he has said that before, like with Black Panther. Let's also not forget, Feige is a very good promoter and he always kind of puts sort of over-the-top promoter stuff out there, bordering on over-hyping. IE "Captain Marvel is the strongest hero," "Iron Man 3 finale tops Avengers climax," etc.

 

[TheVileOne]

Let's be honest, those people want all of their superheroes to be white men.

Most definitely. Like Shang-Chi is one of the definitive Marvel Heroes where you can't complain about identity politics or whatever garbage they are pushing. The character has been in Marvel publishing for almost 50 years. He originated as an Asian superhero. They didn't race-bend another character to make him this way. He's always been Shang-Chi and he has a long-running history in the comics.

 

[Holy Slapper]

Well now the question becomes what did Marvel see in this film that made them think it could be their best ever? Orrrr did marvel ever say that and those were just unconfirmed rumors? I feel like Feige and co are very intune with the general audience and what we love about this franchise. Maybe they feel the need to prove themselves still since the film industry tries so hard to hate on them. Idk

It was just rumors. For example Campea said two (?) people who he said are high level people at Disney said it's the best MU movie yet. Considering how different the views have been among critics it's very possible it was to them. It's very clear some people view the film differently than others. Because of that I don't understand why some posters here are latching themselves on to the negative opinions and labeling them as "a general opinion". It gives off the impression that they wanted this to fail in the first place and are looking for the slightest reason to verify that opinion.

 

[MASTERASIA]

Kristian Harloff really liked it as well:

These two I totally trust especially Kristian Harloff since I have watch some of his video in the past and his taste in movies is spot on. Too bad he haven't seen Shang-Chi yet but he's right on with Arrival.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

I'm not going to lie the fact that this isn't getting the usual unanimous that most Marvel films have gotten out the gate makes me even more excited to see it because it at least sounds like they tried something different.

I honestly don't think I've been more curious about a film like this since The Last Jedi which I actually enjoyed, but I love not knowing what to expect from a film every now and then.

 

[Mysteryman]

These two I totally trust especially Kristian Harloff since I have watch some of his video in the past and his taste in movies is spot on. Too bad he haven't seen Shang-Chi yet but he's right on with Arrival.

I Love Arrival.
To this day, I simply cannot believe that hollywood made a totally engrossing movie about a linguist translating an alien language.

 

[MASTERASIA]

Yeah. I definitely going to like this movie. Most of the positive I have heard so far have given me hope that it tackle the genre that I love in a deep thoughtful scifi movies. This is Prometheus, Interstellar and a mix of MCU with great cinematography.

Be prepared for mediocre CGI folks since there are so many projects Marvel/Disney are tackling and there aren't enough top CGI artists to go around.

 

[MASTERASIA]

I Love Arrival.
To this day, I simply cannot believe that hollywood made a totally engrossing movie about a linguist translating an alien language.

It's sad that not enough people went out to see this. It's rare for a movie that tears me up at the beginning and end and the only other movie did that was Pan's Labyrinth. I can't believe people find it is slow, boring, and not enough explosion end battle. Sadly that's why we aren't getting more of these type of movies because audiences just don't go to see them. Hopefully online streaming like Netflix could give way to more movies like these.

 

[TheVileOne]

Arrival didn't bomb. All things considered, it found a respectable audience, and it got a lot of award recognition.

 

[Albright]

It really pissed me off that some commentators were going in deep on calling Shang-Chi a flop before its release and making Simu Liu their latest "anti-woke anti SJW" target. Regardless of my feelings on this film, I loathe the idea of people using Eternals as some "anti-woke, anti-SJW" propaganda message.

lol you remembered that? That’s cute.
I didn’t say it’ll be a flop. I said, that Shang Chi won’t perform like usual May releases, because it’s an unknown property (as is Eternals) with not yet known actors (which Eternals isn’t)
Now I feel totally safe being excited to watch the movie soon

 

[TheVileOne]

lol you remembered that? That’s cute.
I didn’t say it’ll be a flop. I said, that Shang Chi won’t perform like usual May releases, because it’s an unknown property (as is Eternals) with not yet known actors (which Eternals isn’t)
Now I feel totally safe being excited to watch the movie soon

I wasn't really referring to you:

 

[P Supreme]

All those sites are a clown shows they hate monger that being said they do have an audience unfortunately