The Flash Box Office Thread

[psylockolussus]

I think it obviously turned off some people in the online geeksphere— people like us— but with these big tentpole movies we are but a small contingent of these box office receipts. A poor box office simply means that they couldnt get mass audiences to care about seeing this movie or even give it a chance and given the massive amount of marketing money they put into this that is incredibly alarming. Most normal folks dont know about all the “best cbm of all time” over hype stuff from the studio, they just judge these movies from trailer and tv ads and word of mouth.

The trailers for this were very well received and looked way better than Black Adam and if even that and having a well revered Batman in the movie couldnt get people to care to see this then …i just dont know. I dont know what it wouldve took to get the GA to care about seeing a Flash movie. I’m at a loss as to what went wrong here.

The foundation probably - MOS, BVS and JL.

WB was lucky that people showed up for Wonder Woman 2017 and Aquaman 2018. But even Wonder Woman didn't convince people to watch JL. WW84 was released during the middle of the pandemic and online.

I don't want to write off Aquaman 2 yet, but with so many misses from this DCEU era. They should really end this era.

I think there may be two things, Keaton returning as Batman has no significance for anyone under 30, and Batman with other heroes just doesn't appeal that much because it doesn't feel like his world.

I was 1 month old when Batman 1989 was released. So I'm now 34.

Him returning had ZERO effect on me. I've seen those Batman films in the 2000s.

 

[psylockolussus]

More than fatigue, I definitely agree more and more that the multiverse was a horrible idea for movies, keep that s*** to the cartoons... we might geek about some of it, but for most of the GA its mind-numbing.

IMO, Loki-> No Way Home-> Multiverse of Madness should've been a mini-multiverse saga and that shoulda been the end of it. And DC should've just hard rebooted

I will have to disagree here.

Multiverse was a main selling for Doctor Strange 2. I doubt more people have seen Loki the show than the movies.

For Spider-Man, I doubt it would have grossed over 800 million in a world barely recovered from Covid if there were no other Spider-Men.

I can't speak about the Spider-Verse because I skipped the second movie in theaters and its animated. So I don't think its comparable to live-action superhero films.

We'll see if this Multiverse gimmick goes well in Deadpool neXt year. Well it probably will. You'll get your Multiverse break in Secret Invasion, the Marvels, Echo, Brave New World and Thunderbolts.

 

[TheVileOne]

OK Question, Deadline is saying $72 million for this opening weekend.

Now, I get this movie is budgeted at about $200-$220 million. But let's comparatively look at Rise of the Beasts.

Rise of the Beasts got worse reviews, and it opened lower than $72 million. It opened lower than the first Transformers movie did domestically in 2007. Yet, the media and everyone else who writes about box office results seem to be painting Rise of the Beasts as a success.

Rise of the Beasts was not a cheap film. It has a comparable budget to The Flash. It cost at least $200 million. So is it really that bad of an opening for The Flash? If it does make $72 million, that's still bigger than what Black Adam did opening weekend.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I’m not going to lie, couple of weeks ago I thought for sure this movie would get over 100M, but now there is a chance that it will do less than Black Adam, that’s horrible

 

[emc5466]

Nobody cares about Ezra Miller.

 

[emc5466]

OK Question, Deadline is saying $72 million for this opening weekend.

Now, I get this movie is budgeted at about $200-$220 million. But let's comparatively look at Rise of the Beasts.

Rise of the Beasts got worse reviews, and it opened lower than $72 million. It opened lower than the first Transformers movie did domestically in 2007. Yet, the media and everyone else who writes about box office results seem to be painting Rise of the Beasts as a success.

Rise of the Beasts was not a cheap film. It has a comparable budget to The Flash. It cost at least $200 million. So is it really that bad of an opening for The Flash? If it does make $72 million, that's still bigger than what Black Adam did opening weekend.

Rise of the Beasts is just as much of a flop as The Flash. It made some money in China in its first weekend but it’ll sink from here.

 

[psylockolussus]

Honestly with how DCEU movies performed, this isn't really a shocker. Batman Keaton imo isn't a draw. Christian Bale would have been a wiser choice in grabbing the gp's interest. I thought replacing Superman with Supergirl was a choice. Henry Cavill would have been more marketable but then again, JL still didn't do very well.

The previous dceu movies:
-Birds of Prey and The Suicide Squad grossed lower than $100 million in North America, personally I consider them flops.
-WW84 and The Suicide Squad were released online the same day they hit theaters and what were they thinking of that strategy? WW84 had a sophomore slump in terms of quality. And The Suicide Squad didn't lead to better public perception of the Dceu.
-Black Adam underperformed (to most, it flopped) and didn't need to be that eXpensive.
-Shazam did okay but it was a no brainer that the sequel was heading for a sophomore slump its bombing was eXpected for me.
-I think even without the DC reboot, the interest would have been the same. I doubt the 90% of the gp knows that Superman and the rest are heading for a reboot and they are skipping these movies because of it. There's just no goodwill from dceu left, if theres any, well the interest isn't simply enough for WBD to recoup the budget of these movies.

And Aquaman 2 is neXt on the chopping block.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Welp…

 

[Detective Conan]

Welp…

 

[psylockolussus]

Brutal huh.

In another universe, during the 2010s, we already got solo Dcu films for Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman and a Justice League movie and they were all critically acclaimed and successful at the boX office.

The actual films we got are legacy of Zack Snyder and the creatives behind these DC films. Sadly, I think we are in another bad wave of films, in a few years under the misdirection/supervision of James Gunn. I have ZERO confidence with that guy.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Silver Surfer]

OK Question, Deadline is saying $72 million for this opening weekend.

Now, I get this movie is budgeted at about $200-$220 million. But let's comparatively look at Rise of the Beasts.

Rise of the Beasts got worse reviews, and it opened lower than $72 million. It opened lower than the first Transformers movie did domestically in 2007. Yet, the media and everyone else who writes about box office results seem to be painting Rise of the Beasts as a success.

Rise of the Beasts was not a cheap film. It has a comparable budget to The Flash. It cost at least $200 million. So is it really that bad of an opening for The Flash? If it does make $72 million, that's still bigger than what Black Adam did opening weekend.

$72 million is for the 4-day weekend. Deadline is reporting the 3-day weekend to come in at $64 million - Black Adam opened to $67 million 3-day

 

[TheVileOne]

$72 million is for the 4-day weekend. Deadline is reporting the 3-day weekend to come in at $64 million - Black Adam opened to $67 million 3-day

OK, I'd still call that a comparable amount. And it's still higher than Rise of the Beasts, yet the general consensus seems to be that Rise of the Beasts is a hit.

 

[Silver Surfer]

OK, I'd still call that a comparable amount. And it's still higher than Rise of the Beasts, yet the general consensus seems to be that Rise of the Beasts is a hit.

It is comparable to Black Adam and that's not a good thing.

Not sure why Rise of the Beats is thought of as a hit, news to me. It will lose money just like this will.

 

[Spider-Fan]

This is a pretty big disaster. I said in the Cinematic Civil War Thread for well over a year I thought this wouldn't reach 400 mil WW, and I feel really good about that prediction right now

 

[TheVileOne]

It is comparable to Black Adam and that's not a good thing.

Not sure why Rise of the Beats is thought of as a hit, news to me. It will lose money just like this will.

I think mainly because it opened much higher than the last two movies.

 

[Silver Surfer]

This is a pretty big disaster. I said in the Cinematic Civil War Thread for well over a year I thought this wouldn't reach 400 mil WW, and I feel really good about that prediction right now

If Charlie's predictions holds for a $55ish million OW, we could be looking at a Green Lantern type box office run - $53m OW and a sub $120m Domestic tally.

The B Cinemascore certainly doesn't bode well.

 

[emc5466]

I think mainly because it opened much higher than the last two movies.

Rise of the Beasts is going to end up making less than Bumblebee. The first weekend was cushioned a bit by a somewhat decent release in China but it’ll sink from here on out. It’s already projected to drop 66% this weekend.

Rise of the Beasts is just as much of a flop as The Flash.

 

[Ctfxcwatcher]

Jesus this box office is super disappointing... but oddly not too shocking.

I had The Flash at a 90 million opening before tickets went on sale. Once I started following the tracking on BOT, It became clear this would open in the 50s/60s.

Very disappointing. I had Flash being one of the top grossing films of the year back in January. Now it potentially will finish UNDER Ant-Man 3 both worldwide & domestic.

Something tells me we ain't done yet with the underperformance of some movies this summer. What a weird box office Summer....

 

[psylockolussus]

Why are we consistently bringing up Rise of the Beasts though?

 

[psylockolussus]

Something tells me we ain't done yet with the underperformance of some movies this summer. What a weird box office Summer....

Its not weird.

Every summer season, if there are no bombs, there at least 2 to 5 underperformers.

In the last twenty years, we saw this with the X-Men, Fantastic 4, Mission Impossible, Bourne, Transformers, Spider-Man, Pirates of the Caribbean, Toy Story, Independence Day, Planet of the Apes, Star Trek, Men in Black, Star Wars, the list of underperforming movies and bombs from franchises during the summer season is so long.

Nothing new.

 

[Sithborg]

OK, I'd still call that a comparable amount. And it's still higher than Rise of the Beasts, yet the general consensus seems to be that Rise of the Beasts is a hit.

Mainly, because Transformers had been tracking to open at $48 mil on the high end. So, it hitting $60 was a surprise success. Also, given the state of the franchise, it is considered a decent result.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Terrible cinemascore. This thing will collapse quickly.

 

[FunkMiller]

Now guaranteed to make less than Black Adam.

 

[Invader Joker]

OK Question, Deadline is saying $72 million for this opening weekend.

Now, I get this movie is budgeted at about $200-$220 million. But let's comparatively look at Rise of the Beasts.

Rise of the Beasts got worse reviews, and it opened lower than $72 million. It opened lower than the first Transformers movie did domestically in 2007. Yet, the media and everyone else who writes about box office results seem to be painting Rise of the Beasts as a success.

Rise of the Beasts was not a cheap film. It has a comparable budget to The Flash. It cost at least $200 million. So is it really that bad of an opening for The Flash? If it does make $72 million, that's still bigger than what Black Adam did opening weekend.

Deadline highballed. It's not gonna get that high this opening weekend. It's gonna make less than Transformers, in fact.