The Flash The Flash Season 1, Episode 2 "Fastest Man Alive" General Discussion

[Travesty]

This show, man.....this friggin show.

Sooooooo good!

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Gustin is really nailing it, loved the scenes with Barry and Joe, I'm also an easy mark for Iris.

I'm not familiar with Multiplex but I really liked how they handled his power in the action sequences, the finale showdown between him and The Flash was great.

I'm surprised they killed Stagg off so abruptly as I thought he'd lead to Metamorpho. Plus they didn't give Billy Sadfler a chance to bust out his vintage naked karate!

Wells is intriguing, he goes from supportive, likable science guy to creepy murderer with ease.

OMG i cant believe its the same guy from Die Hard 2!, after all this years its the first time i notice that. Thats one of the weirdest scenes in movie history by the way, but thankfully he didn't do it again, it was creepy enough the first time

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

MAN! This show is freakin GREAT!!Man! I am so diggin it!!
i also thought we might get some Metamorpho and some "Outsiders" action
but I guess we will see!!
my only complaint is

Spoiler

dude why are all the VILLAINS DYING!!!Weather Wizard, Stag, Multiplex!! DAMN! they need to have some Supermax prison for these guys to go too! i wanna see some of them again

but other than that this show is ON FIRE!!! the Scene will all the Muliplexes running all over the building was HELLA COOL! LOVE THIS SHOW!

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

I still think they can somehow explain that the Multiplex that died was also a clone and that the prime got away.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

I still think they can somehow explain that the Multiplex that died was also a clone and that the prime got away.

Thats probable, i dont know how will do that with the weather wizard, unless his brother survived too he is pretty done for. Dont think his powers cover getting bullets in the chest

 

[famicommander]

Another great episode. I'm very pleased with how this show has turned out so far. Now I just need to see them do the major villains properly (Reverse Flash, Grodd, and the Rogues are all a must).

I already like it more than 90s Flash or Arrow.

 

[famicommander]

Thats probable, i dont know how will do that with the weather wizard, unless his brother survived too he is pretty done for. Dont think his powers cover getting bullets in the chest

I think it's pretty much a sure thing that Mark Mardon will be this show's Weather Wizard at some point. He's Mark in the comics and his origin stories usually involve his brother.

They wouldn't kill off Weather Wizard before they even form the Rogues.

 

[Paradox1]

Great episode I hope Multiplex survives somehow and concerning Stagg, When time travel is a major proponent of your show, those who are dead can come back.

 

[Masone]

The Flash and Superman have something else in common, they both steal clothes!

 

[Travesty]

The Flash and Superman have something else in common, they both steal clothes!

You don't know if he quickly put money in the register.

 

[Seb]

I think it's pretty much a sure thing that Mark Mardon will be this show's Weather Wizard at some point. He's Mark in the comics and his origin stories usually involve his brother.

They wouldn't kill off Weather Wizard before they even form the Rogues.

I thought one of the creators pretty much confirmed this? (I think he was really pointed about the fact that CLYDE Mardon died, and that he had a brother)

Sorry, don't remember the source. It might have been one the comicon panels. (Or I may be imagining things)

 

[JC00]

I have to say that ironically its making Arrow kinda look a little bit cheap or dated, dont know what exact word to use. They are very different shows but this feels more grand and comic book style. Im afraid they did a way good job with this show and their other shows now have to get their act together

So much wrong in this post.

Simply put, Arrow is what a Green Arrow show should be and The Flash so far is what a Flash show should be.

 

[TWayneP]

So much wrong in this post.

Simply put, Arrow is what a Green Arrow show should be and The Flash so far is what a Flash show should be.

Yes. Flash is so much better than arrow, you hit it on the nose t:

 

[KillerMcQueen]

This episode was so friggin perfect, best hour of television I've seen in awhile.

 

[Sawyer]

This show so badly makes me wish we were getting a Spider-Man series, rather than the crap they're putting on the big screen.

Of course, the effects required for Spidey would be even more expensive than Flash, but still.

 

[luis4u]

This show so badly makes me wish we were getting a Spider-Man series, rather than the crap they're putting on the big screen.

Of course, the effects required for Spidey would be even more expensive than Flash, but still.

Or maybe a remake [YT]3MxGtH-2duM[/YT]

t:t:

 

[DigificWriter]

My review (cross-posted):
After getting off to a phenomenal start last week, Flash kicked things into even higher gear this week with "The Fastest Man Alive", showing us something that we don't usually see in superhero shows: the eponymous hero actually struggling as he/she attempts to establish a heroic persona for themselves.

I mentioned in my review of the Pilot that Joe West fills the same archetypal role as both Quentin Lance and John Diggle do on Arrow, and tonight's episode only cemented that assertion, particularly when it comes to the Diggle part of things. His objections to Barry's heroics were nearly identical - in motivation, at least - to Digg's objections to/struggle with what Oliver was doing (as seen in "Damages"), and the resolution to those objections also mirrored what happened with Digg. It was a nice subtle 'echo' of Arrow, and dovetailed really nicely with the use of flashbacks to explore what Barry and Joe's relationship was like in the aftermath of Henry Allen being arrested.

I'm not really sure what the writers are doing with Caitlin Snow; they clearly established in the Pilot that she fills the same archetypal role as Felicity does over on Arrow, but then portrayed her in this episode in a fashion that wasn't really consistent with said archetypal function. When characters like Diggle and Felicity get mad at Oliver, they remain very much entrenched in their specific archetypal roles, but when Caitlin freaked out on Barry, she came across as being an 'overprotective mother hen', which made things feel rather disjointed in terms of her characterization, particularly since she was back in her "female confidante" role by the end of the episode.

I said last week that Harrison Wells fills the same archetypal role as Malcolm Merlyn and Slade Wilson, and also said that I believe he's going to end up being the season's "Big Bad", and tonight's episode - particularly the very end - only cemented those conclusions. Knowing that he's not a character from the comics only increases the intrigue surrounding his motivations and actions, and I really can't wait to see what else the producers have up their sleeves when it comes to him.

I'm probably in the minority, but I would rather Iris and Barry's relationship not progress into romance. I fully expect that it's going to come out at some point that he's romantically interested in her, but, if I had my wish, she'd shoot him down and stay with Eddie. I know that it's probably going to be inevitable that she and Barry end up in a romantic relationship (particularly since she fills the same archetypal role as Laurel does over on Arrow), but, for now, that's how I feel.

BTW, the reason I don't want them to end up in a romance together is because I love the brother/sister relationship they have. It reminds me of the kind of relationship I've always had with my eldest sister (who's two years younger than I am), and I think it'd be a shame to ruin that, especially now that she's developed a keen interest in his superhero alter-ego.

I said last week that Cisco reminded me of Xander Harris, but I've got another Buffy character to add to that description: Andrew Wells. He's got Andrew's techy genius and introverted 'nerd cred' coupled with Xander's role as the 'everyman comic relief', and it's a nice combination that I think adds a fresh new layer to Flash and helps set it apart from its sister series Arrow (since there's not a character on Arrow that fills this archetypal function).

I didn't really get Barry's 'out-of-time' confession to Iris about how he feels, but it wasn't enough to drag down the episode's quality in any way, and I'm giving it a 10 out of 10.

 

[combocaz]

Another great episode, just keep them coming and i'll keep on watching.

 

[antonydelfini]

Great superhero show. Great combo of heart, humor, and action. If the makers keep it up, it's on its way to becoming the greatest superhero live action show ever (although Daredevil is looking good as well).

Positives:
Flash action scenes satisfy
The pacing is just right
Great humor
Love the tone of this show

Negatives:
Flashbacks dont engage
Hated 'youre not my dad' outbursts of Barry
cheesy inspirational speech from dad figure (ep1- Wells, ep2- West) to inspire Barry to defeat the villain

 

[Broseph44]

This show, man.....this friggin show.

Sooooooo good!

My sentiments exactly, I love it!

 

[antsman41]

Great superhero show. Great combo of heart, humor, and action. If the makers keep it up, it's on its way to becoming the greatest superhero live action show ever (although Daredevil is looking good as well).

Positives:
Flash action scenes satisfy
The pacing is just right
Great humor
Love the tone of this show

Negatives:
Flashbacks dont engage
Hated 'youre not my dad' outbursts of Barry
cheesy inspirational speech from dad figure (ep1- Wells, ep2- West) to inspire Barry to defeat the villain

I really like the flashbacks because they're pretty light at this point and it's a change of pace; young boy instead of 'a few years ago' like Arrow (which I also love) or even the whole premise of Smallville...

 

[Rorschach2012]

the ending definitely has me thinking wells is rf...

 

[Paradox1]

Why would Reverse Flash use a knife?

 

[Boy Scout]

The Good:

- The effects. They were a little shoddy in the beginning, but were overall very solid.

- Jesse L. Martin and Grant Gustin. I really love them both.

- Cisco. He wasn't even half as annoying as he was in the pilot.

- Seeing more of Eddie Thawne. There wasn't enough of him in the pilot.

The Bad:

- The antagonist. The actor was very weak and I can't figure out why he killed himself or why Barry didn't try to save him.

The Okay:

- Caitlyn. The actress is trying, but the problem is she's trying too hard.

Another solid episode. 8/10. I'm really going to like this show.

 

[Broseph44]

Why would Reverse Flash use a knife?

Wow