The Future of Ultimate Marvel

[Artistsean]

I think if they were to have Cable, it would have to be in something like a man comes to their mansion claiming to be their son from the future. But because of his great psychic powers Xavier and jean can't read his mind to see if its true. He comes back in time without any high tech weapons or things like that.
He is a excellent at hand to hand combat, and skilled in the weapons from modren time too. His powers are vast psychic and telekinetics abilities.
He has a scar on one eye, and prematured gray hair. Im not sure how ultimate marvel would handle his robot parts like his arm.
But thats how I think they could bring him in, only I had the same idea for Bishop, only Bishop's mind is a little frazzled from the time jump while I would have Cable be very clear headed and almost diabolical seeming. Another difference between the two ideas would be that there are signs that Bishop existed in the past too, but it still can't be proven that he isnt from the future.
Were as Id have Cable have no past at all, and no signs or clues to a past.
But I think they should only include Cable or Bishop.

 

[Manic]

I'm against time travel in the Ultimate universe. It complicated things way too much in the 616 universe, and the last thing the Ultimate universe needs is alternate-Ultimate worlds that will only confuse readers further.

I want to see the Dayspring Twins: Nathan and Rachel. They could be two mutant psychic mercenaries who cross paths with the X-Men on one of their jobs. With Nathan's glowing eye and Rachel's red hair, they could imply that they share some kind of relation to Scott & Jean, but dismiss it at the end of the story as an amazing coincidence.

 

[Artistsean]

I agree, thats why if they did Bishop or Cable, but only one of the two, they would have to have a possible deniability to them being from the future. Sort of like how right now no one is sure if Thor is a god but no one can say he isnt either.
I do think that if Cable was intorduced it could become a heavy issue with jean and Scott. Because it iplies that they get married and have kids in the future, and right now they are only 19 and thats alot a pressure for them.
Plus Cable could seem like a coniving guy, who is secretly evil and plotting against them. (thats what it would seem like from his character, he would be too calm and level headed.)Im still having a hard time think of how they would explain his robot parts.
maybe he arrives after the whole Legacy Virus situation(created by SHEILD), and he was infected but he claims that the Legacy Virus is still a problem in the future.

Anyway, i agree. They shouldnt do time travelling in the Ultimate universe. Only way they could get away with it is if its like with Thor and they can deny it too.

 

[Artistsean]

The legacy Virus
it is created by SHEILD as a precotion only, not to be used unless the mutants become a global threat. Or at least thats what Fury says. It has been worked on every since the start of Ultimate X-Men. And now they are perfecting it.
it effects only mutants, or is suppossed to only effect mutants. But maybe it effects any super humans, because of their altered DNA.
The virus doesnt make people look like robots or have robot parts, or look like they are covere in circutry. But its effects are vissible on the surface. and shouldnt just be sours or spots, or bumps. But they are vissible.

Anyone have any idea how to have the legacy virus be vissible on the skin and not look like sours or circutry?

 

[TheSumOfGod]

The future of Ultimate Marvel? Cap is elected President (gets 98% of the votes), and returns America to the way it was in it's prime in the 1940's. Except with more boobies.

 

[SpideyInATree]

and the last thing the Ultimate universe needs is alternate-Ultimate worlds that will only confuse readers further.

They did have alternate worlds in the Ultimate Universe already. Ultimate Fantastic Four had a story about an alternate dimension where the heroes of the Marvel Universe turned into zombies. So...too late.

 

[Manic]

Technically, isn't the Ult. Fantastic Four traveling through the same multiverse the Exiles are? That's not a problem for me.

I'm talking about alternate future offshoot realities. For example, Days of Future Past is an alternate future derived from 616 (the division being made somewhere circa the Phoenix Saga). The Askani timeline is an offshoot of 616 as well. So is Bishop's timeline. What I'm saying is that giving the Ultimate universe offshoot future timelines will only confuse readers. I have a hard enough time as it is explaining to people what the Ultimate universe is, let alone the difference between 616 Cable and Ultimate Cable's 4 native timelines (616, Askani, Ultimate, and Ultimate Askani).

 

[Unleashed]

They did have alternate worlds in the Ultimate Universe already. Ultimate Fantastic Four had a story about an alternate dimension where the heroes of the Marvel Universe turned into zombies. So...too late.

AHHH!!! There's no such thing as an alternate Ultimate universe. The Ultimate universe IS an alternate universe!!!!

 

[SpideyInATree]

AHHH!!! There's no such thing as an alternate Ultimate universe. The Ultimate universe IS an alternate universe!!!!

Well, I think there needs to be a better definition of an "alternate world" then.

Because I figured by the UFF going to the Zombie world would be an "alternate world". What would you call it? Normal?

 

[ang_hulk]

rhodes becomes ultimate war machine.he designs "war machines" and is black and is tonys friend and has worn and worked with armor,its only natural.

 

[Manic]

rhodes becomes ultimate war machine.he designs "war machines" and is black and is tonys friend and has worn and worked with armor,its only natural.

That'd be fine and dandy, if Black Widow wasn't already wearing what's essentially the War Machine armor.

 

[XwolverineX]

That'd be fine and dandy, if Black Widow wasn't already wearing what's essentially the War Machine armor.

Yeah, she's a dumb *****.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

what if the ult. future was a good place? and people come back in time but they can only do it like in quantum leap but somethiing goes wrong and one of the time travlers get stuck in the body of a mutant and he tries to explane only to be sent to nut house.

 

[Artistsean]

Another idea

SHEILD was able to break the super soldier serum that made Captain America. Not only did this allow SHEILD to turn all its agents into Super Soldiers, but it also opened up the door for cryogenic freezing. The serum kept Steve Rogers in a state of suspended animation and kept his body from freezing and dying. SHEILD is now experimenting with this process to freeze terminally ill patiants until cures, or to freeze criminals in an effort to control the increasing number of people in prisons, or even to freeze heroes like Captain America until their country needs them but only if they consent to it.
The serum is also being looked at for its other purposes, maybe by altering the formula a little they can create a healing serum. A serum that could cure some illnesses and speed up the healing process in regular humans.


Another possible occurance in the future is that Tony Stark will retire as Iron Man and focusses more on his company, leaving the spot open for another to take up the mantel like the scientist who helped him create the original armor Mr. Rhodes.
Rhodes becomes SHEILD's new Iron Man (not War machine).

 

[Artistsean]

based on recent events in ultimates, (spoiler ahead!)
(Hank Pym is working with the Liberators, and helped take down SHEILD. He hasa control over his Ultron robots and is using the Ant Man persona.)
This idea combines trial and his getting kicked off the team, changing his persona to Yellow Jacket, using a robot to attack the Avengers so he can stop it to make himself look good, and the attack of ultron, all in one big mixed up and Ultimized story idea.

Because of this turn of events here is my version of
the Ultimate Trial of hank Pym

Hank is tried for treason, maybe uses the Ultron robots to escape, changes his identiy to Yellow Jacket (costume looks similar to both Giant Man and his Ant Man costumes, just slightly moidified) to go along with his new powers he has created, and when the Ultimates finally track him down he is being guarded by all his Ultron robots (looking more like the regular Ultron, in the face anyway) who are now outfitted with advanced weaponry.
But In a big battle, all the robots are taken down and Hank is captured. He goes back on trial and put in prison, and possibly faces the death penalty, for his actions.

 

[Caliber]

I think Pym is going to help the Ultimates so he can get back on the team. What better way than work with the bad guys then betray them.

 

[Artistsean]

yeagh, me too.

 

[Artistsean]

Some quick ideas
Sometime in the near future Reed Richards and Sue Storm get married. They have a wedding attended by Johnny and Ben, Nick Fury, now with one arm, members of the Ultimates, members of the X-Men, and Spider-Man. The issue is brought up to Nick Fury by one of his bosses maybe, that their union can be seen a a future threat. But it is not talked about much more than that.
later on down the road, maybe after four or five story arcs, Sue thinks she is pregnant. This brings up the whole issue again about their union being a threat. It sort of spooks SHEILD and the higher ranking bosses, but not really Nick Fury. He just has to take into acount the possible threat.
Even Sue and Reed talk about it. Their child will be the child of two genetically altered super powered beings, who knows what their child will be able to do. They even talk about how the pregnancy might be dangerous to the baby or Sue because of her altered DNA. Maybe Reed and Sue and the Four aretalked to about this by Nick Fury and SHEILD and maybe even some other heroes like Captain America, Tony Stark, Charles Xavier, and Spider-Man.
Ultimately it is revealed that Sue is not pregnant, to her and Reed's saddness. Everyone in the four is sad about it.
But it does get Reed and Sue to talking about having children in the future. They even decide on names, just incase. Franklin for a boy, and Valeria for a girl.

Also they Four tangle with the Puppet Master, but they come out of it with a happy new relationship. Ben has been sullen and depressed ever since being transformed. But that was until he met Alicia Master, the Puppet Master's step daughter. She is blind, and a brilliant artist. She could see Ben's true self, and fell in love with him.
I just think its time they brought in Alicia, if they haven't already.

SHEILD and Canada's Department H start a partnership. The two share weapons and technology with the other and agreements are made to help one another in future defense programs.
SHEILD gives Department H their most basic blue prints for the Sentinels, which Department H uses to create their own versions called Box robots. They also lend them up grade blue prints for Tony Stark's Iron Man armor, which Department H uses to upgrade their Weapon Alpha armor for Agent Hudson. They also give Department H one of the flight suits like Captain Britian's, Captain Spain's, and so on. They put a former mounty and soldier, now Department H agent, in charge of wearing it. The suit is codenamed Major Mapleleaf. Like the other "Four Seaons" suited men, his strength is increased, and he gains the ability to fly.
Along with Major Mapleleaf, as a Alpha Flight reserve, or back up, other agents are added. Such as Agent Snowbord. A young mutant woman with the ability to morph her body into a limited number of animals. She and Major Mappleleaf, and a few others, like Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, arent officially on Alpha Flight. But they do go on missions for Department H and sometimes with Alpha Flight.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I think Pym is going to help the Ultimates so he can get back on the team. What better way than work with the bad guys then betray them.

I totally agree...Pym will Turn back to the Ultimates ..probably in issue 11..he seemed very aloof and distant in issue 10...maybe he was even some kind of mole all along...who knows.


Tony Stark is going to have his drinking catch up with him...so I could see him not being Iron man by Ultimates 3..but I doubt it will effect this current arc..

Loki and Thor still need to be resolved...I think your gonna see Loki as more behind this than we expect...or else at least somthing very nefarious is at the root.

 

[Artistsean]

I totally agree...Pym will Turn back to the Ultimates ..probably in issue 11..he seemed very aloof and distant in issue 10...maybe he was even some kind of mole all along...who knows.

yeagh, Id just like to see the Ultimate version of the trial of Hank Pym, maybe he would be the Ultimate character to be executed.
Maybe, if Ultron is one of the villians in Ultimates 3, Pym and his robots will be evil. Or maybe Ultron is upgraded by the terrorists.

Tony Stark is going to have his drinking catch up with him...so I could see him not being Iron man by Ultimates 3..but I doubt it will effect this current arc..

Maybe Tony will turn out to be like Bender on Futuramma, Alchohol is good for him, no alchohol is bad for him.
But I could see him retire in the near future, but maybe to focus more on his company.

Loki and Thor still need to be resolved...I think your gonna see Loki as more behind this than we expect...or else at least somthing very nefarious is at the root.

Im interested to see how they wind this all up, what is the cause of all this and how do they defeate it? Im expecting a huge climactic ending.

 

[Caliber]

yeagh, Id just like to see the Ultimate version of the trial of Hank Pym, maybe he would be the Ultimate character to be executed.
Maybe, if Ultron is one of the villians in Ultimates 3, Pym and his robots will be evil. Or maybe Ultron is upgraded by the terrorists.


Maybe Tony will turn out to be like Bender on Futuramma, Alchohol is good for him, no alchohol is bad for him.
But I could see him retire in the near future, but maybe to focus more on his company.


Im interested to see how they wind this all up, what is the cause of all this and how do they defeate it? Im expecting a huge climactic ending.

I think Pym has been trying to redeem himself since the end of the volume 2 of the Ultimates. So he would aid the enemy just enough to know how he use them as a way to redeem himself. It could work against him but he could gain a second chance after that.

 

[Artistsean]

Ultimate Cable is going to apear in Ultimate X-Men,
I don't know how, but if they introduce time traveling in the Ultimate Universe it might mess things up.

 

[ang_hulk]

Id like a fury mini,telling his past tales and how he bacame head of shield,i know a few others have mentioned this to,I think it would be great showing were he started and any bumps along the way.

 

[ang_hulk]

The ultimates gettings a few more mutants as members,mabey a few x-men.A mass human fear wave for super humans and fury and the president figureing out how to clear there names.Hulk getting a presidential pardon.a space base for the ultimates and mabey some vehicles.the FF being taken under shields wing and last but not least

"reed how did our tests come out?"-sue
"I didnt tihnk It was possible,I thought for sure It couldent happens,I......I was certain it wouldent happen"-reed
"what,what is happening to us?"-sue
"I thought for sure,I mean I was certain it couldent"-reed
"reed whats happening to us....o my god..........This says im pregnant!"-sue
"......your pregnant"-reed"

 

[ang_hulk]

I think Pym is going to help the Ultimates so he can get back on the team. What better way than work with the bad guys then betray them.

he will prolly help them defeat ultron,or rather the army of ultrons.