The Future of Ultimate Marvel

[Artistsean]

I love the idea of Reed and Sue having a baby, I could see just the idea of this causing people in the white house and SHEILD to panic and maybe try and stop it. It would be an interesting storyline.

I think they could introduce Ultimate Inhumans in the pages of Ultimate FF in an idea like this: what happens when a society of mutants isolates themselves for several years.
Almost like a case study or research, Reed and Sue, and Ben and Johnny, find a society of mutants who have been isolated for more than 10 years, probably much much more. They live like my earlier idea, with Blackbolt being Emperor and the royal family, and the kingdom and such. The story would still include an assassination plot by Blackbolts brother, and then a small battle between the Inhuman's and their army and maximus' army.
But we aslo see that because of their isolation the mutations mutated further and grander. Not one person in the whole Inhuman kingdom is a non mutant. Some powers seem almost cosmic, and some mutants don't even resemble humans at all. Even the plant and animal life has mutated much further than the rest of the worlds.

The story could be a look at the evolution of mutants and of mankind as a whole.

 

[Spider-Gamer]

I thought the Ultimate Inhumans were already introduced in the Ultimate Fantastic Four Annual last year?

 

[deemar325]

I think Bishop would be another one of the sort of mutants. He can blast forces of energy out of his body, but only after he absorbes the blast of another mutant's energy. Without absorbing another mutants energy he is sort of normal. he can be around several mutants, even Cyslops and havok, unless he has been hit directly or was able to absorb enough energy in the air, he can not blast energy back. Bishop isnt harmless when he has no energy to absorbe and blast back, he is highly trained in fighting in hand to hand combat.

(In my head, Bishop is a mutant who winds up on the X-Men's door step. He claims to be from a horrific future, but they can not prove he is telling the truth or not. Sort of like Thor, no one can tell. Not even Xavier because his mind is so warped, from what he says was the jump back in time. He has a M tatoo on his forhead, and a barcode on his forarm. No future weapons because they cannot travel, so he can't use that to prove he is from the future.)

But anyway, he is one of the mutants who arent exactly a mutant and arent exaclty human.

That doesn't make sense, either your a mutant or not a mutant.

 

[Artistsean]

They did use the Inhumans already, but I had this idea before that.

I was thinking, in the Ultimate Universe, there could be different levels of mutants almost like stages in evolution. There arent just, all of a sudden, humans and then mutants. Some mutants only show powers in the company or because of other mutants, and in my idea these mutants wouldn't be accepted by everyone.
Some mutants, like Magneto and his followers, would view these mutants as not "Real Mutants" or "Half Mutants". And the humans would view them as just mutants without any difference. So many of these mutants, especially Mimic, feel like outsiders with no place to go.

 

[deemar325]

Theres no point to half-mutants.

 

[Artistsean]

the point of my idea would be to show a more realistic, or different, view of evolution and mutation. Like when there are frogs with three eyes or cats with two tongues. Mutations start small and continue over time. Not all mutants have full on awsome powers like the X-Men, some just look weird or have small powers or have powers that require objects or other mutants. Its a way to introduce mutants like Mimic, Bishop, or Black Tim Cassidy, and to explain why Bishop absorbs power from other mutants, or Mimic mimics other mutants, or why Black Tom needs wood to use his powers, in an intersting way that seems ultimate. The other point would be to introduce these mutants, mostly Mimic, who are technically mutants but feel like outsiders from both groups.
but your entilted to nt like my idea if you want. I like it though.

 

[Artistsean]

I hope that they do something like my idea for the Cable story, make him something like the Ultimates' Thor where no one can really tell if he is from the future or not. you cannot prove it or dissprove it, and they offer evidence for both.
If the characters says he is from the future i hope he tells them he is the son of Cyclops and Jean Grey. That might be neat to show the effects of this news on them and their relationship, and how everyone else reacts to this news would be interesting.
Thats if they make him from the future. I don't know what they would do with him to make him not from the future.

 

[i'm Spider-Man]

see Sean what you're basically describing is the 'Class' system that they currently use in the 616 comics... sometimes.

for example, Iceman, Jean Grey, Franklin Richards, are all 'Omega-Class' mutants. they can manipulate matter on the molecular level, in different ways and for different effects, but essentially they do the same thing.

it's basically about evolutionary potential. if there's no defined limit to your powers, if you can't say about someone's powers "oh, they can't do that" with a 100% certainty... then they are more than likely Omega-level.

 

[Artistsean]

I didn't actually know about the class system in regular marvel, but I still think it would be a good idea for Ultimate Marvel.

 

[Tropico]

That doesn't make sense, either your a mutant or not a mutant.

Exactly, once your genes are "warped" you're a mutant. There isn't such a thing as an "almost mutant" or "very mutant" mutant.

 

[SonOfCthulhu]

Ultimate "Crisis": Where they merge all the Ultimate books and the regular Marvel books into one comic line. Yet they still don't explain PowerGirl's origin or where the heck Donna Troy came from.

 

[Manic]

Ultimate "Crisis": Where they merge all the Ultimate books and the regular Marvel books into one comic line. Yet they still don't explain PowerGirl's origin or where the heck Donna Troy came from.

Or how exactly Barry died.

 

[SonOfCthulhu]

Or how exactly Barry died.

He's not dead. Barry's got a town home in the speed force.

 

[Artistsean]

Exactly, once your genes are "warped" you're a mutant. There isn't such a thing as an "almost mutant" or "very mutant" mutant.

Not that they aren't "technically" mutants because they are mutants, its just that other mutant extremists like Magneto don't see them as what he calls "Full Mutants" (superior mutants in his eyes). "Full Mutants" being a term that gets used by some, its not a technical word or an actual classification, just term that is made up by Magneto or someone like him who treats it like it is a real way to classify other mutants. These mutants don't have to use objects or other mutants to use their powers. Magneto and other mutants like him see thse mutants as lesser mutants.
Yes they are mutants, but some mutants don't see them as real mutants.
These mutants are seen by humans as just mutants, humans don't see the variations of mutations. They don't see that some have extreme powers, like Cyclops or Xavier or magneto, and that some have minor powers, or that some just look strange (like being covered in fur) and don't have any powers at all. To these humans, because not all humans are like that, to these humans any mutation makes you a mutant.
thats what I meant, not that they weren't mutants, they are. They are just looked down on by some mutants as not "real" mutants. and at the same time they are seen as just another mutant by the humans.
So they feel even more isolated and alone than most mutants.

 

[RAMORE]

Some of these are good ideas. I would like to see spidey work with shield but on the covert side and i could see them being like you need a new costume when you work for us because everyone hates you

 

[Artistsean]

right, Nick Fury has said that once Peter is 18 he will have to work for SHEILD. But Spider-Man is seen by the public as a menace and a vigilantee, a criminal. So They wouldn't have him keep the same suit, but Spider-Man would also want out too. It would make a good plot for a 13 issue story.

I'd also like to see Tony Stark create a sleaker looking Iron Man armor, not as sleak looking as the regular marvel version but sleaker than his own. hew said early on in Ultimates that everytime the public sees him wearing the suit his aproval rating and stock drops a little. I'd like to see him create a more apealing looking suit based on polls and market research. Because he is thinking that his stock and approval goes down becuase the suit looks bad.