The Gaming Lounge: Beyond - Part 4

Yup, it's pretty rad. It's one of those things that sounds too good to be true though. They've got like 5.5 million dollars through kickstarter for it,

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console

I'm hoping it's a success and it stirs up some competition coz the industry really needs it.

 

I totally agree.

People mod their PC's, why not their consoles right?

 

Because that opens it up to all sorts of nefarious bull****.

 

No it doesn't. lol

 

Windows XP days are out
Sometimes that system crashed by installing two or three different games, when it shouldn't

 

I think he might be thinking more on the lines of hacking and cheating. The consoles shouldnt be too open for a reason.

 

I don't see that being a problem.

This is going to be huge for anyone who wants to create their own games.

I'm really hoping this does well.

 

Yup, I think this could be pretty darn good.

 

How can you possibly not? I mean seriously? What about that is difficult for you to understand?

 

Why are you so jacked up? There's nothing wrong with making an open console. lol

If you're that scared of hackers and cheaters stick with Xbox and PlayStation. They're really good a stopping the millions of people who hack and cheat every day.

Are you paranoid of this new Android system? Does it keep you up at night?

All I said was you should have the option to mod your console and guess what, pretty soon we can! t:

 

Pretty much. People mod their consoles as well, it's just a pain in the ass going through the process because they use special screws and software. I don't know much about PS3 hacking but for the 360, that software is illegal to have. Plus it's lame that tinkering around with the hardware you bought voids the warranty. Hahah and remember that guy who got sued by Sony for jailbreaking the PS3? Ridiculous.

Nah. If someone wants to argue that it'll increase piracy, I doubt it. Especially given how open this system is. The easier it is for consumers to acquire something the more likely it is they'll pay rather than pass on it or download it for free. Look at Good Old Games, a shining example of how selling things without insane roadblocks can work. I can easily pirate any game from them PLUS the extras they include. Instead I buy from them whenever I can because I appreciate what they're doing. This system sounds very consumer friendly and I can't see that as anything but a good thing.

That's a misconception. I don't see many competitive multiplayer games coming out for this thing anyway, although apparently it can run Tribes: Ascend and Blacklight Retribution. Even then, games should have their own anti-cheat systems in place. If I want to crack open my system and have it run a new OS I should be able to because I paid for the damn thing, and making me jump through hoops just because some people might cheat is crazy because that's what people wind up doing anyway.

Tribes: Ascend

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Blacklight Retribution

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Plus on the positive side this gives indie developers a platform to get their games onto other than PC. It's tough to get a game approved by Sony and Microsoft but now they have this cheap system that they can develop for. This is why I said it sounds like something too good to be true hahah, it sounds like a dream.

 

You own the console but only a license to its software which restricts you from hacking/modding it.

 

Which is silly because they barely do anything extra with the system, and what's worse is they won't let users do anything with it either. Funnily enough this closed/open platform thing is touched on in this interview with Gabe Newell on the future of games.

http://allthingsd.com/20120725/valv...-games-wearable-computers-windows-8-and-more/

Wearable computer with augmented reality overlay... yes plz.

 

Just on the whole OUYA thing, I found this an interesting read:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/edit...e-doesnt-match-the-hype-why-you-should-be-ske

 

"You called?"

 

XBL Indie Games is barely supported by MS which has driven indie developers away. Why write a game for them that will go unadvertised and fade into obscurity when they can just work on a PC and hopefully reach a wider audience? That's why XBLIG is full of s**t.

I do think it's a bit weird that they haven't shown the prototype, or had somebody come up with a prototype of a game that can run on their prototype hahah but the worst thing I got from that article is they would need to delay the launch. I haven't invested in the kickstarter because yeah, I'm skeptical, but if they actually deliver I'd happily pay $100 for a PC I can keep in the living room instead of moving my PC whenever I want to play Genesis games on a TV.

I'd seriously wear that everywhere if it actually works.

 

Totally agreed on the XBLIG stuff.

Heh, I went and hooked everything up to my HDTV 2 years back I can certainly empathize with the hassle of switching and back and forth between television sets.

Regardless, I guess for me I just don't see a real future for this machine (should it actually come out which seems questionable) aside from at best a novelty item. As the article pointed out, indie developers already have a cheap and easy platform to work with on the PC and that brings with it a sizable user base that the OUYA certainly can't hope to replicate.

And at this point with a litany of promises its hard not to think of the OUYA and remember the Phantom:



Though the public funding element makes it feel like there's a lot more on the line - not just for the console itself but kickstarter. I suppose I am just feeling that even if the people behind its production are on the level, the reality of actually producing this thing and making it a viable platform is going to set it.

I guess we'll see what's going on in an year.

 

Agreed. It's a huge advantage Microsoft has over Sony, but (A) They're not pushing it forward, and (B) they put too many restrictions on it. Microsoft needs to ease up on it's restrictions for both this and XBLA. They're restrictions is why an HD remake of Oddworld games won't be released on XBLA.

Funny thing is that it's the same exact two reasons why both versions of the Zune (and it's app market) failed.

 

Can Sony sue Apple for this ?

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/apple-patents-dualshock-style-game-controller-14241

 

not if sony doesnt have any legal hold on it.

 

Apple.. the king of telling something to not do anything remotely like they do.. Now does this.

 

That article hasn't been updated, as its incorrect. The patent isn't for a controller, its to allow 3rd party controllers to work with their devices.

 

Ah.

Still.. Apple annoys me.