The Guns thread - Part 1

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As a teacher, I wouldn't want the responsibility of having to take down an active shooter. At least not without a significant pay raise. :(

Highly trained military and police personnel have about a 30% hit rate in an actual shootout scenario. That's a very good rate by the way as things like adrenaline among other things will seriously screw up your accuracy.

Guess where that other 70% of bullets is going to end up in a classroom/school area?
 
Highly trained military and police personnel have about a 30% hit rate in an actual shootout scenario. That's a very good rate by the way as things like adrenaline among other things will seriously screw up your accuracy.

Guess where that other 70% of bullets is going to end up in a classroom/school area?

Exactly. If I missed and hit a kid I'd never be able to live with myself. :(
 
Also fully awaiting the good guy with a gun getting shot by police.
 
Also fully awaiting the good guy with a gun getting shot by police.

Sithborg we all know police are psychic and if they show up to an active shooter situation with multiple people firing weapons in all directions they know which one is the bad guy and would never shoot the wrong person! :o
 
Also fully awaiting the good guy with a gun getting shot by police.

Sithborg we all know police are psychic and if they show up to an active shooter situation with multiple people firing weapons in all directions they know which one is the bad guy and would never shoot the wrong person! :o

I know, right? :(
There won't be any confusion. We'll just have the good guys wear a shirt with "Good Guy" written on it and the bad guys will have shirts that say "Bad Guy" and wear masks.
 
There won't be any confusion. We'll just have the good guys wear a shirt with "Good Guy" written on it and the bad guys will have shirts that say "Bad Guy" and wear masks.

All bad guys are also required to have bags with money symbols on them if they don't have their black ski mask right?
 
There won't be any confusion. We'll just have the good guys wear a shirt with "Good Guy" written on it and the bad guys will have shirts that say "Bad Guy" and wear masks.

Hee hee, because nobody would ever dare faking that. :p
 
No, no, no, no.

The sure fire indicator for the police is for the bad guys to wear a hoodie.
 
No, no, no, no.

The sure fire indicator for the police is for the bad guys to wear a hoodie.

Hoodies are only for young thugs, all grown up bad guys are required at minimum to at least have pantyhose on their heads. :o
 
I wear hoodies all the time. I am so screwed. :p
 
I am sure MAAD has all you need to know about anti-drunk driving demostrations. But, I also don't think we are quite able to judge their psychology, not having grown up in the generation of active shooter drills.

What about protesting outside of embassies for countries where honor killings are rampant? Or child slavery/child soldiers are rampant??

You could industrialize the security industry if you don't want to go the train-up-a-teacher-or-two-to-police-standards (psych/background checks included).

We have about 400 000 returned/returning veterans, a lot of them looking for work. Create an incentive for schools to get serious about this. The feds could build a few academies around the country, Iraq/Afghanistan vets could undergo some re-training and refreshing of psych checks and all, and land a good job. Win win.

Exactly Ax. I as a single )no kid having) adult, would have no problem with a hike in my property taxes, to raise funds to do that..

If you look at it.
Armed securtity in most malls
Armed security in banks
Armed security in many walmarts (mostly local cops)
Armed security in federal buildings
and the list goes on..

SO why not have more armed security, even if plain clothed, in schools??

This is getting ridiculous. The US would be the only first world country that uses guns as a way to combat gun violence. Putting armed guards in schools is a horrible idea. Just horrible. Find a better solution.

Why is it insane? Is that not how the military "Hardens" bases? BY putting more armed security up?

And armed guards won't make that better. Treating students like potential shooters isn't going to bring out the best in them. Find a better solution.

So its ok, to pat down/xray grandma in her handicapped chair, all cause of some potential bombers, but its NOT ok to put armed security in schools, call cause some potential shooters?? Strange logic that.

Armed guards for schools...?

...or conversely, investigate and try and remedy emotionally, psychologically, and culturally dysfunctional human beings that want to mow down fellow citizens?

But how many times, have we heard (often after the fact) that the FBI or cops DID get warnings/alerts, on said killer(s), but failed to actually DO ANYTHING about it>

As a teacher, I wouldn't want the responsibility of having to take down an active shooter. At least not without a significant pay raise. :(

Are you ok, with potentially having to use your body as a shield to protect those kids, without a pay rise?

I wear hoodies all the time. I am so screwed. :p

May i join you?? I own 6.. 3 plain, 2 from military service, and one with a big starwars logo on.:cwink:
 
At this point? I wouldn't want to be a teacher at any price. :( It's got to be a calling, like joining the priesthood, if it may possibly mean your life.
 
Sithborg we all know police are psychic and if they show up to an active shooter situation with multiple people firing weapons in all directions they know which one is the bad guy and would never shoot the wrong person! :o

Police couldn't possibly know that. That's why you have Quiksilver coming in, changing the trajectory of the bullets in flight as Sweet Dreams is playing in the background. :oldrazz:

For real though, cops know they don't always hit their mark, so they should have good situational awareness before they even aim.
 
There is zero evidence that armed guards in schools prevent violence. So find a better effing solution. Jesus.
 
For those who feel this could have been prevented, you are right.. Check these to stories out..

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...push-for-gun-control-legislation/#more-146034

If Nikolas Cruz had been arrested for his prior criminal behavior he would not have passed a background check for a firearm purchase. The issue was/is not the background check; the issue was/is the lack of a prior arrest. Hence, the Broward County school and law enforcement policy is ultimately what failed.

I don’t say this lightly, but the lawyers have the easiest case for ‘wrongful death’ lawsuits in the history of this type of litigation. The county policy constructed by public officials (School Board and Superintendent), and the county law enforcement policy that was specifically and intentionally designed to ignore unlawful behavior (Broward Sheriff), is the very definition of intentional gross negligence.


Gross negligence requires a pre-disposition to create a system that is inherently dangerous. That is exactly what happened in Broward County, Florida.

Despite specific warnings that unstable and/or violent students would likely slip through the system as a result of intentional ‘willful blindness’; and despite specific warnings by police officers that these policies were dangerous; community leaders, district school administration and local police officials executed those policies anyway.

And
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...cians-weaponize-kids-for-ideological-intents/

School Shooting Was Outcome of Broward County School Board Policy – Now Local and National Politicians Weaponize Kids for Ideological Intents…

Posted on February 19, 2018 by sundance

CTH has intentionally stayed away from discussion of the Parkland school shooting as we watched and reviewed the response. However, it’s time to call the Broward School Board officials to task and simultaneously prepare the class-action lawyers to cripple the system.

Broward County schools intentionally created polices from 2010 through 2016 that culminated in the 2018 mass school shooting in Parkland. We know this with great specificity because five years ago we warned Broward County Florida school board members this could happen.

In 2012 and 2013 while doing research into the Trayvon Martin shooting we discovered an alarming set of school policies being enacted in Miami-Dade and Broward County Florida. The policies were called “diversionary programs” and were essentially about stopping High School students from being arrested. Law enforcement was instructed to avoid arrests and defer criminal conduct to school administrators.

Students who engaged in violence, drug sales, robberies, burglaries, theft and other various crimes were intentionally kept out of the criminal justice system. County administrators and School Superintendents told local and county law enforcement officers to stop arresting students.


Seems like its Brower county that's at fault..
 
The Conservative Treehouse? Seriously man do you ever quote from a legitimate source? The CTH post numerous articles that have been proven false over and over again (check Snopes.com for the list). They're fake news at its lowest.

Do better.
 
Police couldn't possibly know that. That's why you have Quiksilver coming in, changing the trajectory of the bullets in flight as Sweet Dreams is playing in the background. :oldrazz:

For real though, cops know they don't always hit their mark, so they should have good situational awareness before they even aim.

Absolutely, but any officer showing up to a scenario where multiple people are firing from several different directions it would be very hard for them to tell who they should be looking to take out and who is on their side.

I'm fairly certain that all CCP classes inform individuals that when the cops arrive you holster your weapon and take cover so the police can do their jobs.
 
the Dallas mayor pro tem is asking the NRA to move their annual convention from Dallas to somewhere else
 
I am sure Jeff Sessions will get right on that...
 
If Trump were actually able to introduce tougher regulations, restrictions & laws around guns it might actually make his thus far moronic Presidency in some way worth bearing as he'll have actually done something that truly matters.
 
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