The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Hans Zimmer Score thread

[JOE]

Close enough if you ask me...

 

[spund]

Just as music on its own, I think Horner's Spidey theme is awesome and I love listening to it.

But as music for Spider-man.....eh, I really want something with more "ooomph". If I could choose a composer to do Spider-man's music it would either be John Williams or Giacchino.....but I'm interested to see what Zimmer comes up with.

 

[TheLastBlade]

If Zimmer's collaborator turns out to be Horner, then that'd be godly.

 

[Vid Electricz]

Horner's score was too generic and lacked any personality IMO. Zimmer is fine, but his selection as composer for TASM2 has me laughing. I remember when Elfman was selected for SM and everyone was going crazy and complaining because he had already done Batman and that he was no good for Spider-Man and that he'd done too many superhero movies (lol), etc... Now everyone is ecstatic about Zimmer who seems only to do Superhero and big action flick scores now. Fanboys baffle me.

 

[MrSpyder]

Happy for Zimmer to be scoring Amazing Spider-Man 2. Looking forward to it

 

[Picard Sisko]

If Zimmer's collaborator turns out to be Horner, then that'd be godly.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I like Hans Zimmer a lot and think his Batman scores are genius but did Webb have a falling out with James Horner? Usually the same directors stick to their same composers for a film series (unless you have a falling out like Sam Raimi and Danny Elfman for Spider-Man 3)?

 

[SM71]

I like Hans Zimmer a lot and think his Batman scores are genius but did Webb have a falling out with James Horner? Usually the same directors stick to their same composers for a film series (unless you have a falling out like Sam Raimi and Danny Elfman for Spider-Man 3)?

I'd really like to know this as well. It is very peculiar for this kinda thing to happen

 

[Marvel Spider]

Either it just didn't turn out the way he wanted it to, or he feels like Horner's score wouldn't fit the larger scope ASM2 will have.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

This has been a terrible year for Horner, two scores rejected, along with a franchise overhaul.

 

[Scarlettess]

Either it just didn't turn out the way he wanted it to, or he feels like Horner's score wouldn't fit the larger scope ASM2 will have.

Or he's busy doing something else, so scheduling wise wouldn't work out.

 

[Scarlettess]

^He must've mixed up James Horner and James Newton Howard.

oh woops Still their styles are quite similar, so my point about the fantastical elements still stand

 

[Spiderdevil]

I like Hans Zimmer a lot and think his Batman scores are genius but did Webb have a falling out with James Horner? Usually the same directors stick to their same composers for a film series (unless you have a falling out like Sam Raimi and Danny Elfman for Spider-Man 3)?

I am guessing its Sony's decision rather than Webb's

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Are you serious? Trailer music has nothing to do with the written score, also that "track 0" was a promotional piece of music, having nothing to do with Horner's score.

Don't care if you didn't like Horner's music, just get the facts right, lol.

Hey if you are a fan of Horner's score it doesn't mean you have to go all "FAIL!" on me

trailer's job is to show what the movie is about so people will go see it. It will somewhat establish what tone and style we will be/should be waiting for. Music is a huge part of the tone. It doesn't have to be 100% the same, but the modern type of tunes and Horner's very old school'ish score are totally different, opposite ends of the spectrum. Thus it's false advertising. The score being good or not doesn't change that fact

Also, I didn't say that the track 0 was "for a fact" Horner's work. It was just my theory and I'm allowed to make one since you or anyone else doesn't have any facts about it. Also, I'd like to mention that I have praised some of the parts in the score, so I definitely don't dislike the entire thing.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I like Hans Zimmer a lot and think his Batman scores are genius but did Webb have a falling out with James Horner? Usually the same directors stick to their same composers for a film series (unless you have a falling out like Sam Raimi and Danny Elfman for Spider-Man 3)?

I don't think he had a falling out, but his ASM1 score was far from the best.

And as many have said, it just wasn't what they expected and not what they wanted moving forward.

And simply put, they just simply decided not to ask him back, and to go a different direction.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

^^ that doesn't sound too far fatched imo

 

[GermanRaider]

Really looking forward to some of Zimmer's scores within the next year. Like Winter's Tale, 12 Years a Slave and, of course, TASM2.

 

[Milu]

If Zimmer's collaborator turns out to be Horner, then that'd be godly.

Fingers crossed.

 

[flickchick85]

If Zimmer's collaborator turns out to be Horner, then that'd be godly.

I would LOVE that, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Also, I didn't say that the track 0 was "for a fact" Horner's work.

The track 0 actually makes me think that they tried the gritty type with Horner ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnslLuCZD-w ), but then Horner just decided "let's go with my usual direction"

As in, "this is something horner wrote, but changed his mind. Also, the trailers do set the tone, and the music helps, but we didn't get this serious epic, untold story we were promised. We get a 25% finished storyline, a serious-but still lighthearted- spider-man movie. Trailer music written after film scoring and/or during recording sessions = / = effect on written score

 

[TheWallCrawler]

As in, "this is something horner wrote, but changed his mind. Also, the trailers do set the tone, and the music helps, but we didn't get this serious epic, untold story we were promised. We get a 25% finished storyline, a serious-but still lighthearted- spider-man movie. Trailer music written after film scoring and/or during recording sessions = / = effect on written score

I'm not saying trailer music should affect the written score, I'm saying that the written score should affect the trailer music. It wouldn't bother me if they were a little different, but they are the very opposite ends of the spectrum, Horner's very old school vibe and the trailer's very modern (and Zimmer'ish, at least in the second trailer) vibe. No matter what you say, no matter how arguably good Horner's score is, the fact is that the tone in the trailers was false advertising.

And to quote myself: "The track 0 actually makes me think that they tried the gritty type with Horner, but then Horner just decided let's go with my usual direction". Nothing about that sentence implies that I'm saying "this is for a fact what happened", it was just a theory. I don't need to "get my facts straight" because I'm only theorising, and there's no evidence that it couldn't be one of the possibilities

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Normally scores are written after the trailer has been put out. The fact that they used a Zimmer-esque cue means nothing. They also used what seemed to be dubstep, in one trailer IIRC. But if you really wanna go that route; Jurassic Park also used Zimmer music in one trailer, is that how the score should have sounded?

Also, there is proof that Horner didn't compose that. I've heard the recording sessions, and there's nothing written like that for the sheet music.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Normally scores are written after the trailer has been put out. The fact that they used a Zimmer-esque cue means nothing. They also used what seemed to be dubstep, in one trailer IIRC. But if you really wanna go that route; Jurassic Park also used Zimmer music in one trailer, is that how the score should have sounded?

Also, there is proof that Horner didn't compose that. I've heard the recording sessions, and there's nothing written like that for the sheet music.

if you could explain further what you mean by that

Also, you are contradicting your last post. You said that "Trailer music written after film scoring and/or during recording sessions = / = effect on written score", but now in an attempt at a counter-argument you changed your stance to "Normally scores are written after the trailer has been put out". This means that your last point "trailer music can't have effect on the score because the trailer music is written afterwards" is no longer valid

and to comment on the Zimmer scored Jurassic Park trailer, the tone wasn't like the polar opposite of what was in the movie, and with TASM it pretty much is. in fact, while the Jurassic Park score wasn't exactly "Zimmer", the trailer's tone matches the movie's tone pretty damn well.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

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[A Necessary Evil]

if you could explain further what you mean by that

Also, you are contradicting your last post. You said that "Trailer music written after film scoring and/or during recording sessions = / = effect on written score", but now in an attempt at a counter-argument you changed your stance to "Normally scores are written after the trailer has been put out". This means that your last point "trailer music can't have effect on the score because the trailer music is written afterwards" is no longer valid
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I mean I've literally listened to the entire score. The complete score. Everything Horner wrote. Now, yes, scores are written after the first teaser trailer, most of the time, however sometimes it can be different, with pieces being written before OR after that first teaser.