The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Hans Zimmer Score thread

[Spiderdevil]

I really don't get you people who thought Horner was horrible.

I mean, mind explaining why, at least?

I will start of by appreciating the music where it was perfect

The Alley chase scene
The last scene when he listening to Uncle Ben's message on his phone
Basically all the emotional scenes are really well done

Now what went wrong
The Basket Ball scene-Really amateur stuff,too corny.Is this a Mickey Mouse cartoon?
The Main theme-Too triumphant.Okay it needs to be triumphant but need to start off tense and build up slowly.Listen to how Elfman's theme and Avengers theme start
Wrong choice of music at the wrong parts-Like when the Lizard is flinging cars at the bridge and Spidey arrives,the music needed to really tense for the audience to get the feel and he put in the triumphant theme like the fight has already been won *Facepalm*

He ruined practically all action sequences with bad soundtrack.I knew that was gonna happen when he said 'The action music will take care of itself'
I think its one of the reasons why the action came off as lack lustre compared to Raimi's trilogy.Good music can double the epicness of a battle

 

[SpideyK]

I will start of by appreciating the music where it was perfect

The Alley chase scene
The last scene when he listening to Uncle Ben's message on his phone
Basically all the emotional scenes are really well done

Now what went wrong
The Basket Ball scene-Really amateur stuff,too corny.Is this a Mickey Mouse cartoon?
The Main theme-Too triumphant.Okay it needs to be triumphant but need to start off tense and build up slowly.Listen to how Elfman's theme and Avengers theme start
Wrong choice of music at the wrong parts-Like when the Lizard is flinging cars at the bridge and Spidey arrives,the music needed to really tense for the audience to get the feel and he put in the triumphant theme like the fight has already been won *Facepalm*

He ruined practically all action sequences with bad soundtrack.I knew that was gonna happen when he said 'The action music will take care of itself'
I think its one of the reasons why the action came off as lack lustre compared to Raimi's trilogy.Good music can double the epicness of a battle

Well, uh... Thanks for clarifying at least. Nice to see you can appreciate the emotional stuff.

About the stuff I completely disagree on:

The main theme - exactly what Webb asked for. And according to me, probably the best CBM theme we've gotten since John Williams' Superman theme. It's beautiful, it's perfect, it's memorable.

The basketball scene - Peter was trolling Flash and being annoying, with a smile on his face. Of course the soundtrack is going to be lighthearted.

The bridge scene - now this is where I really have no idea where you're coming from. The cue is called The Bridge, and it's 5:16 long. The main theme is played twice during those 5 minutes... The first time when Peter swings up onto the bridge, it's even played in minor, giving off more of an epic feeling, rather than triumphant. The second time the main theme is played, is where Peter finally says "I'm Spider-Man", and swings away. It is played in major, that time, which was perfectly fitting, but then it cuts back to Peter sitting on the floor, being all sentimental, and the music switches back to minor again.

The rest of the bridge sequence where the Lizard tosses and cars into the water and stuff with the electric guitar felt TSSM as ****. I loved it.

Now, I do of course realize that not everyone share the same opinion, but you're really generalizing some stuff. Especially the bridge sequence.

Well, hey, at least you liked the emotional stuff.

 

[Brain Damage]

I thought that Horner was meh overall, but I agree with you, SpideyK, that the main theme is one of the best of all time.

I really, really hope Zimmer decides to keep that bit.

 

[SpideyK]

I thought that Horner was meh overall, but I agree with you, SpideyK, that the main theme is one of the best of all time.

I really, really hope Zimmer decides to keep that bit.

Honestly, that's really all I wanna hear.

And yeah, I really hope Zimmer (and the possible partner) keeps it, too. Otherwise it'd be some serious damn waste of potential.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Spoiler

Well, uh... Thanks for clarifying at least. Nice to see you can appreciate the emotional stuff.

About the stuff I completely disagree on:

The main theme - exactly what Webb asked for. And according to me, probably the best CBM theme we've gotten since John Williams' Superman theme. It's beautiful, it's perfect, it's memorable.

The basketball scene - Peter was trolling Flash and being annoying, with a smile on his face. Of course the soundtrack is going to be lighthearted.

The bridge scene - now this is where I really have no idea where you're coming from. The cue is called The Bridge, and it's 5:16 long. The main theme is played twice during those 5 minutes... The first time when Peter swings up onto the bridge, it's even played in minor, giving off more of an epic feeling, rather than triumphant. The second time the main theme is played, is where Peter finally says "I'm Spider-Man", and swings away. It is played in major, that time, which was perfectly fitting, but then it cuts back to Peter sitting on the floor, being all sentimental, and the music switches back to minor again.

The rest of the bridge sequence where the Lizard tosses and cars into the water and stuff with the electric guitar felt TSSM as ****. I loved it.

Now, I do of course realize that not everyone share the same opinion, but you're really generalizing some stuff. Especially the bridge sequence.

Well, hey, at least you liked the emotional stuff.

I agree with many of these points. Horner's main theme was brilliant.

 

[SpideyK]

^Cool, man. t:

 

[SM71]

Hans Zimmer is legitimately my favorite film composer, but in all honestly I'm actually pretty bummed about this announcement.

I can understand some people's complaints about the action score here or there, but I honestly thought Horner's score was absolutely brilliant. It was so unique, and just brought so much life. It seemed like every aspect of it, down to every last piano note was just so thought out, so imagined and detailed and developed.

I'm a musician and I know I never will be, but I've always wanted to be a film composer. so the score of a movie is always the first thing I look for and recognize and that stands out in a movie for me. And to me, Horner scored TASM in a way no other composer maybe not necessarily could, but would.

Even the "finger-snap" complaints, I get it could seem a little off to people but I personally enjoyed it, as I said before it brought life and a certain unique-ness. Like I just said, that's a ballsy move and I don't know any other composers who would really make/take that decision/chance. And as for the school fight complaints, I'll even admit the first time I saw the movie that music just seemed outa place, but after rewatching so many times I absolutely love it. Maybe it was purely accident on Horner's part, but hearing triumphant-type music in a CBM fight scene like that instead of the usual threatening/danger kinda music is really cool to me, and something I've never seen in a CBM and something very unique. Actually, that scene specifically (mostly due to the type of music he used) is the closest I've ever come to seeing and feeling like I was watching a comic book come to life. Just seeing Spidey in broad daylight with heroic music fighting a baddie felt like a live action comic book page.

Sorry for the rant, those are just my 2 cents, I just felt the need to throw my humble opinion out there considering how strongly I feel about movie score the TASM's score in particular.

So while I love Zimmer more than life itself, I'm going to miss Horner big time. His score really provided the heart and soul that I absolutely love about the movie. And all I can say, especially since it seems to me they really do scan the internet/read message boards sometimes is.....

PLEASE BRING HORNER BACK TO COLLABORATE WITH ZIMMER!!!!

 

[SM71]

And one more thing... Spidey is just so iconic, and so loved and has such a massive fan base, that I feel like the expectations for a Spidey film are just a little bit higher than anything else. Which I think is fine and agree with and I have higher expectations myself. But my point is, I feel like Horner's score was really analyzed and put under a microscope, just due to the sacredness of Spider-man, hence some of the complaints.

And actually I guess my other point with that would be that I'm not sure if anyone single composer could have done the music for that film and received unanimous praise with no detractors. Which is why I'm really hoping they didn't switch composers just because of fan backlash, as it seems they've already made some changes based solely on fan response.

Once again, and it's just my opinion I wouldn't be upset with anyone who disagrees, but I think Horner did an absolutely brilliant job. Very creative

 

[SpideyK]

Took the words right out of my mouth, -Z-.

Being a musician myself, I completely agree on all of your points.

 

[Smegger56]

The piano bits where beautiful. I really thought Horner gave great thought to the music. Especially the emotional bits. His main theme, IMO, is up there with Supes 78 and Bats 89/Returns.

I do hope that Zimmer does keep alot of the cues from TASM. One thing I love about sequels is returing scores that get built upon. One of the things I was truly excited about TASM2 was what Horner would bring.

When Horner was announced as the composer for TASM, I could not have been happier. I felt his style would suit spidey perfectly (I loved his work on Star Trek TWOK, Titanic and Avatar).

I would love to know why he isn't coming back. I it due to scheduling conflict? Did he just not fancy it? Was Webb just not happy with the final score?

 

[AF3619]

The piano bits where beautiful. I really thought Horner gave great thought to the music. Especially the emotional bits. His main theme, IMO, is up there with Supes 78 and Bats 89/Returns.

I do hope that Zimmer does keep alot of the cues from TASM. One thing I love about sequels is returing scores that get built upon. One of the things I was truly excited about TASM2 was what Horner would bring.

When Horner was announced as the composer for TASM, I could not have been happier. I felt his style would suit spidey perfectly (I loved his work on Star Trek TWOK, Titanic and Avatar).

I would love to know why he isn't coming back. I it due to scheduling conflict? Did he just not fancy it? Was Webb just not happy with the final score?

I think he was happy i feel like TASM score fits the tone of certain scenes like the main theme,Ben's death, the bridge scene, i can't see you anymore,saving new york (first minute and crane scene part)and promises/End credits
I want Hans to keep the intimate pa rt of the score

 

[Captain Croatia]

You know who is best composer to me alongside Zimmer? Alexandre Desplat. For example:

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfU_sC7m2cA[/YT]

Dunno why you can't see video, just go to Youtube and search for "Lily's Theme".

 

[Elysium23]

You know who is best composer to me alongside Zimmer? Alexandre Desplat. For example:

[YT]sfU_sC7m2cA[/YT]

Dunno why you can't see video, just go to Youtube and search for "Lily's Theme".

There you go. You only need to put what's after the = .

 

[Brother Jack]

Disappointed that Zimmer is doing this film. I liked Horner's work just fine and wish that he would have been able to continue with the series. Zimmer has really become too prolific in recent years, not just with his own work but with those in his company who mostly all have a very similar sound. It's come to dominate the film scoring business, making Horner's score, while not fantastic, seem like a breath of fresh air.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Disappointed that Zimmer is doing this film. I liked Horner's work just fine and wish that he would have been able to continue with the series. Zimmer has really become too prolific in recent years, not just with his own work but with those in his company who mostly all have a very similar sound. It's come to dominate the film scoring business, making Horner's score, while not fantastic, seem like a breath of fresh air.

Completely agreed. I'm getting tired of the RC Productions monopoly.

 

[AF3619]

Completely agreed. I'm getting tired of the RC Productions monopoly.

RC? Well if he works with Horner or another composer could be diferent score but i really like some of Zimmer work now that im listening to Horner's work on the spidey film i can see how well it works with the small scenes and emotional scenes

 

[eLPAtitoyUPI]

I don't know if Desplat is THE best composer out there, but he did an awesome job in the Harry Potter movies. He's was the best in the job after John Williams (who created a lot of great themes for the saga).

I do prefer Michael Giacchino anyways, his style is flexible and he doesn't fail.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I mean, I agree with Phantasm, but not. I did and still do adore Horner's score, and wanted to see him build upon it. However, much like Zimmer is bound to do, there were too many elements copied from previous scores (The Wailing, Main theme, & Piano motif for Peter & Gwen either came straight from, or where orchestrated differently from Jumanji, for example.) I think Zimmer will do fine, and I am excited to hear his score, but at the same time will miss Horner. Also, whoever said Desplat is a good composer gets a in my book. Dat Lily's theme.

 

[Gianakin_]

Every day that goes by, I'm so glad Horner's off this.

Looks like TASM2 is bound to piss many TASM fans and vice versa. Interesting.

 

[Naite22]

I'm sorry. I know SOME get a feeling for puking when ever Zimmer's name comes up, because he IS all over the place! But I don't give a flying ****. He is my all time favorite composer right next to John Williams and it's absolutely HUGE that Hans has been brought on to now tackle Spiderman! It's great, and he'll no doubt create a badass soundtrack! Goodbye Elfman. Goodbye James Horner! Hans Zimmer is about to make the greatest spiderman music ever to graze the silver screen, and the best part about it is that it's pretty much for sure! He'll create something spectacular !!

 

[TheWallCrawler]

last time the music in the trailers was false advertising. this was the music from the first trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SABa0fSL3ls

now that's as gritty as they come. then in the next trailer like a Zimmer/Nolan type of tune. Then in the next trailer they kinda went with an action scifi type of music with a tad of grit

in the movie we got whimsical. People may like that, and I do like a half of what Horner did, but it's still false advertising. The track 0 actually makes me think that they tried the gritty type with Horner ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnslLuCZD-w ), but then Horner just decided "let's go with my usual direction"

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Are you serious? Trailer music has nothing to do with the written score, also that "track 0" was a promotional piece of music, having nothing to do with Horner's score.

Don't care if you didn't like Horner's music, just get the facts right, lol.

 

[Scarlettess]

Spoiler

Hans Zimmer is legitimately my favorite film composer, but in all honestly I'm actually pretty bummed about this announcement.

I can understand some people's complaints about the action score here or there, but I honestly thought Horner's score was absolutely brilliant. It was so unique, and just brought so much life. It seemed like every aspect of it, down to every last piano note was just so thought out, so imagined and detailed and developed.

I'm a musician and I know I never will be, but I've always wanted to be a film composer. so the score of a movie is always the first thing I look for and recognize and that stands out in a movie for me. And to me, Horner scored TASM in a way no other composer maybe not necessarily could, but would.

Even the "finger-snap" complaints, I get it could seem a little off to people but I personally enjoyed it, as I said before it brought life and a certain unique-ness. Like I just said, that's a ballsy move and I don't know any other composers who would really make/take that decision/chance. And as for the school fight complaints, I'll even admit the first time I saw the movie that music just seemed outa place, but after rewatching so many times I absolutely love it. Maybe it was purely accident on Horner's part, but hearing triumphant-type music in a CBM fight scene like that instead of the usual threatening/danger kinda music is really cool to me, and something I've never seen in a CBM and something very unique. Actually, that scene specifically (mostly due to the type of music he used) is the closest I've ever come to seeing and feeling like I was watching a comic book come to life. Just seeing Spidey in broad daylight with heroic music fighting a baddie felt like a live action comic book page.

Sorry for the rant, those are just my 2 cents, I just felt the need to throw my humble opinion out there considering how strongly I feel about movie score the TASM's score in particular.

So while I love Zimmer more than life itself, I'm going to miss Horner big time. His score really provided the heart and soul that I absolutely love about the movie. And all I can say, especially since it seems to me they really do scan the internet/read message boards sometimes is.....

Spoiler

And one more thing... Spidey is just so iconic, and so loved and has such a massive fan base, that I feel like the expectations for a Spidey film are just a little bit higher than anything else. Which I think is fine and agree with and I have higher expectations myself. But my point is, I feel like Horner's score was really analyzed and put under a microscope, just due to the sacredness of Spider-man, hence some of the complaints.

And actually I guess my other point with that would be that I'm not sure if anyone single composer could have done the music for that film and received unanimous praise with no detractors. Which is why I'm really hoping they didn't switch composers just because of fan backlash, as it seems they've already made some changes based solely on fan response.

Once again, and it's just my opinion I wouldn't be upset with anyone who disagrees, but I think Horner did an absolutely brilliant job. Very creative

Great posts, and Agreed with all you just said, Zimmer is one of my favourite composers too, but I've never imagined him scoring a Spidey film, hopefully he strays away from all the 'big composition and brass' he tends to use. Though having said that I think he'll nail Electro's theme/score. Yeah I absolutely love Horner, Peter Pan is one of my favourite soundtracks in the whole world, and I love his 'fantstical' sound he bought to TASM. There were a few parts that maybe didn't fit, but overall I think he did a fantastic job.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

James Horner didn't score Peter Pan...

 

[SpideyK]

^He must've mixed up James Horner and James Newton Howard.