The Avengers The "I Believe In Mark Ruffalo!" Support Thread

[wobbly]

Well there's no need to at all to just dismiss TIH. They set it up at the end for a different take on the Hulk himself with Banner seemingly meditating control of the change.
Just one quick reminder from Banner that was what he had achieved (and having control of the change is like he is now in the books) and they are good to go.

 

[Herolee10]

No I remember Feige saying fairly recently that it was still continuity, hence the news footage at the end of IM2 included.

Well that's a relief to hear. Though in regards to the Iron Man 2 Hulk footage, wasn't that decision made prior to Edward Norton's fall out with the studios? I mean if you look at the DVD special for the SHIELD Vault feature, Edward Norton's Banner is still used when referencing the character.

I just hope that they throw a reference in the Avengers further solidifying the events of TIH by explaining as to why Tony went to see General Ross, since I doubt Tony would have gone to Ross and tell him about the Avengers if there wasn't some purpose that didn't relate to the Hulk..i think...

 

[Brian Braddock]

Given that the cinematic Hulk has such a fractured continuity already, there's no way Marvel are going to throw away what they got with TIH and just wipe the slate clean again because they have cast another actor as Banner.

We're talking a simple recast here, no need for a reboot or a re-imagining no matter how popular those words/concepts are currently with Hollywood [and certain movie fans].

 

[Boom]

Did I miss something?

What Iron Man 2 Hulk footage?

 

[Brian Braddock]

In the SHIELD safe house, on one of the screens there was news footage from the TIH campus scene.

 

[Herolee10]

Given that the cinematic Hulk has such a fractured continuity already, there's no way Marvel are going to throw away what they got with TIH and just wipe the slate clean again because they have cast another actor as Banner.

We're talking a simple recast here, no need for a reboot or a re-imagining no matter how popular those words/concepts are currently with Hollywood [and certain movie fans].

True; heck now that I think about it, although Michael keaton was replaced by Val Kilmer, from what I understood, even with the designs of the city and ficitional universe being different all around, I had heard that Batman Forever was still considered to be a loose sequel to the first two films, with all of them having taken place in the same continuity space.

I just hope that they put the experiences that Bruce experienced in the events of TIH to good use in the Avengers.

 

[wobbly]

True; heck now that I think about it, although Michael keaton was replaced by Val Kilmer, from what I understood, even with the designs of the city and ficitional universe being different all around, I had heard that Batman Forever was still considered to be a loose sequel to the first two films, with all of them having taken place in the same continuity space.

I just hope that they put the experiences that Bruce experienced in the events of TIH to good use in the Avengers.

Not that loose: Same Alfred, same Commissioner Gordon, same Wayne Manor, and nothing to contradict anything from the previous films other than the obvious cosmetic changes (from a garish dark/gothic Gotham to a even more garish neon one). Had no doubt in my mind that was a continuation.

With regards TIH, I just don't see any reason for them to toss that out. I doubt Ross will be seen but I would imagine Tony's interest in meeting him will become apparent and explained in Avengers.

 

[Doc Samson]

Not that loose: Same Alfred, same Commissioner Gordon, same Wayne Manor, and nothing to contradict anything from the previous films other than the obvious cosmetic changes (from a garish dark/gothic Gotham to a even more garish neon one). Had no doubt in my mind that was a continuation.

With regards TIH, I just don't see any reason for them to toss that out. I doubt Ross will be seen but I would imagine Tony's interest in meeting him will become apparent and explained in Avengers.

Not only that, but Meridian made a remark about Bruce's affinity for women in skintight leather with a whip.

Like I said before though, in Bruce Banner, a character the general audience really doesn't care much for anyway, I think it would be wise for Marvel to just act as if nothing's happened, aside from the recasting. Yet another restructuring would prove unnecessary, and quite irritating for those of us who actually do care.

 

[Herolee10]

So if:

Iron Man is referred as the "Armored Avenger";

Captain America as the "First Avenger";

& Thor as the "Mighty Avenger",


then what is the Hulk referred as? The Green Avenger?lol

Well in any case, i wouldn't be surprised if they referred the Black Widow as the "Seductive Avenger" and Hawkeye as the "Lucky Avenger" (for being involved with BW.lol)

 

[kedrell]

Nah, Hulk's the psychotic Avenger.

 

[J.Howlett]

So, I haven't seen this question yet answered but does the Incredible Hulk even count now with the recast of Banner in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?

I mean, is Liv Tyler and William Hurt coming back as the Ross'? Or because of the recasting or Ruffalo, they'll just re-do the origin (again) of Banner for the Avengers film?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

So, I haven't seen this question yet answered but does the Incredible Hulk even count now with the recast of Banner in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?

I mean, is Liv Tyler and William Hurt coming back as the Ross'? Or because of the recasting or Ruffalo, they'll just re-do the origin (again) of Banner for the Avengers film?

Same continuity. You can see the newscast from the college rampage on a screen at the end of Iron Man 2.

As for Betty or Thunderbolt, we don't know whose (if anyone's) supporting cast will make an appearance in Avengers.

Personally, if Ross shows up I hope Hurt can do it again, he was pretty awesome.

 

[J.Howlett]

Well, I knew about the news cast at the end of Iron Man 2...but, you can technically get around that with recasting everyone and that can simply be a news cast about an incident that Fury has to deal with...

I mean, it's not like the replacement of Rhodey in Iron Man 2. This is a major recasting in the cinematic universe.

Ignoring the Incredible Hulk might be the best thing for the whole thing to work properly.

But, on the other hand, the film did introduce the Super Soldier Serum, which is huge in Captain America.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

So if:

Iron Man is referred as the "Armored Avenger";

Captain America as the "First Avenger";

& Thor as the "Mighty Avenger",


then what is the Hulk referred as? The Green Avenger?lol

Well in any case, i wouldn't be surprised if they referred the Black Widow as the "Seductive Avenger" and Hawkeye as the "Lucky Avenger" (for being involved with BW.lol)

The emerald Avenger?

 

[Obi-Ron]

The strongest one there is? t:

Ignoring the Incredible Hulk might be the best thing for the whole thing to work properly.

How about no.

 

[terry78]

Watching Ang Lee's version on TNT right now. I'm wondering if someone else should voice Hulk or if Ruffalo should go ahead and provide the grunts or speaking.

 

[Son of Coul]

Lou Ferrigno has said he'll be involved, so I'm thinking it'll be him.

 

[Brian Braddock]

How about no.

Emphatically co-signed, for the reasons I've already posted previously. Cinematic Hulk will be a bonafide schizophrenic soon if the amount of actor changes and reboots get any larger in number.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Hopefully he looks something like this ......

 

[BigThor]

So if:

Iron Man is referred as the "Armored Avenger";

Captain America as the "First Avenger";

& Thor as the "Mighty Avenger",


then what is the Hulk referred as? The Green Avenger?lol

Well in any case, i wouldn't be surprised if they referred the Black Widow as the "Seductive Avenger" and Hawkeye as the "Lucky Avenger" (for being involved with BW.lol)

I don't understand why Cap is called "The First Avenger" since Thor is FAR older than him and he was a member before Captain America.

I guess Hulk could be called "The Incredible Avenger"

 

[Doctor Jones]

Better than the Angry Avenger.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Hulk is going to be referred to as the "Unstoppable (starring Chris Pine and Denzel Washington and directed by Tony Scott) Avenger".

 

[Herolee10]

I don't understand why Cap is called "The First Avenger" since Thor is FAR older than him and he was a member before Captain America.

I guess Hulk could be called "The Incredible Avenger"

I think it's because Cap was technically the first "hero" that SHIELD recognized; and technically the events of his heroic life took place before the events that'll be taking place in "Thor".

 

[symbspider33]

I think it's because Cap was technically the first "hero" that SHIELD recognized; and technically the events of his heroic life took place before the events that'll be taking place in "Thor".

My question is where does thor land ? Is it after CA:TFA? After, TIH? It has to be after IM2 right?

 

[kedrell]

Yes, Thor is probably going concurrent with TIH as the last ones before the Avengers.