The Avengers The "I Believe In Mark Ruffalo!" Support Thread

[HUMANIMAL]

First off, why does Hulk look like a genie with all that vapor coming out the bottom of him, as if he just materialized from a lantern?

And second, I don't like the look of that Hulk at all. His head looks too small and he's far too veiny.

we should have a like and dislike button in here....

is it concept art or not?

 

[Obi-Ron]

You posted it, where is it from?

 

[Kirmit]

That Hulk pic is dated either 2003 or 2008, I can't quite make it out, either way, it's too old for The Avengers.

 

[NickNitro]

I dont mind this concept too much, he kind of looks like Hyde from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen huge arms and smaller head. I do believe this is by far no where near the concept of the new Hulk. This is clearly from 03 or 08 and looks honestly like a kid in college going for art drew it, not a professional concept artist, maybe it was a preliminary sketch but still I doubt this work has anything to do with the movie. If it did this guys gonna get fired for leaking artwork.

 

[wobbly]

I would imagine any concept art will be along the lines of that we saw for TIH by Aaron Simms. More in the way of 3D renders than paintings/drawings.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

lol

 

[Son of Coul]

Oh lord that is shameful in terms of Hulk design.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Gamma-hardened Hulk nipples;

''Hulk ready to lactate!!!!!''

 

[Dark Raven]

Gamma-hardened Hulk nipples.

That's what we should see on She-Hulk instead.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

it was a joke i only wanted to see your reactions;-)

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

Liefeld would be proud.

 

[MadVillainy]

I just hope Hulk doesnt get the shaft in this. That's my only worry. He's my 2nd favorite Avenger after Cap and I hope he gets his time to shine...hopefully leading to a sequel

 

[Kirmit]

I just hope Hulk doesnt get the shaft in this. That's my only worry. He's my 2nd favorite Avenger after Cap and I hope he gets his time to shine...hopefully leading to a sequel

Same here, except he's my favourite. IMO Marvel seem to be excluding him alot at the minute, barely mentioning him when they talk about The Avengers. Yes, I know TIH didn't perform as well as they expected but alot of that was Marvel's own fault, not the character's.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah that's what has me nervous. Like tht Avengers assemble logo leaves out Hulk. And then in a recent interview Fiege left out Hulk.

IDk it's probably nothing

 

[Herolee10]

Same here, except he's my favourite. IMO Marvel seem to be excluding him alot at the minute, barely mentioning him when they talk about The Avengers. Yes, I know TIH didn't perform as well as they expected but alot of that was Marvel's own fault, not the character's.

Yeah that's what has me nervous. Like tht Avengers assemble logo leaves out Hulk. And then in a recent interview Fiege left out Hulk.

IDk it's probably nothing

Well in the official press release, when they had started the filming for this film officially, TIH was mentioned as one of the films from the Marvel Cinematic universe that was a part of the journey towards reaching the Avengers.

And Tom (Loki) had included Hulk in the list of heroes that'll be against him in this film as well.

 

[Doc Samson]

Same here, except he's my favourite. IMO Marvel seem to be excluding him alot at the minute, barely mentioning him when they talk about The Avengers. Yes, I know TIH didn't perform as well as they expected but alot of that was Marvel's own fault, not the character's.

I feel like the Hulk is the most integral part to the Avengers unifying, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a fan.

He was the catalyst for the Avengers to assemble originally, and he served basically the same purpose in the Ultimates. Logically, especially with Loki being such a great character in Thor and assuming he's one of the main villains going forward, I don't see any other way the group would form that makes sense. They have to stop the strongest one there is, and then bring him into the fold.

I actually think they should only have two big Hulk set pieces though, I want them to really nail the cgi this time, and I think if you have a big battle where they have to stop his rampage near the beginning, then have him redeem himself and show up to help at the end, you achieve the arc for the character, without a huge amount of screen time. They can focus on getting the f/x right for just a couple of big scenes, rather than a full film, and let's face it, Marvel's going to be tight within their budget as it is...

I think he SHOULD NOT resemble Banner.
He *never* has in the comic.
Before the world knew that Banner was the Hulk, NEVER did anyone look at the Hulk and say, "You know what...he kinda looks like that guy Dr. Bruce Banner! Do you see a resemblance? I do!"

No one ever looked at Banner and said, "Hey, has anyone ever told you that you look like the incredible Hulk?"

So....why make him resemble Banner in the movie? It's just a waste of time and budget and is not only unnecessary, but it is diametrically opposed to 50 years of published material. Instead, use that time and money to make the Hulk look even more realistic than he did in T.I.H.

I disagree with that, the greatest Hulk artist of all time IMO, always drew a slight resemblance between the two.

It's not like Hulk has his own separate skeleton and bone structure, it's a mutation. They don't have to be twins, but part of what could make the Hulk as realistic as possible is his resemblance to Banner. The best scenes, F/X-wise, in Ang's Hulk trump the best scenes in TIH simply for that reason.

Besides this:

Isn't so far from this:

No disrespect to Mark, of course

 

[Doc Samson]

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[Herolee10]

Well one thing that i liked hearing from one of Mark's interviews was how he described the hulk to be the "avenger" that the rest of the group wouldn't want on their team due to his unpredictable nature. It definitely gives a strong arc for the character to work with since he could end up spending a good portion of the film earning the trust and respect from the rest of his crew and this could further show more layers into Hulk's character towards the GA that the other films haven't been able to.

 

[ArtTeacher]

I feel like the Hulk is the most integral part to the Avengers unifying...He was the catalyst for the Avengers to assemble originally

Of course he was...but will Marvel make that apparent on the big screen, or will they push him to the background since he did not make as much money as the other Avengers' solo movies (sans Cap)?

I disagree with that, the greatest Hulk artist of all time IMO, always drew a slight resemblance between the two.

You think Al Milgrom is the greatest Hulk artist of all time?
Really?

Even so, in the example you showed, the jaw line doesn't line up, the brow doesn't line up, the noses are WAY off (in size, placement, and structure), the eyes are off, as are the cheekbones, teeth, and even ears.

 

[NickNitro]

ArtTeacher

No disrespect but I dont think you should go about ripping on that above example because chins and eyebrows dont line up line for line. If I want a man with a green painted face Ill watch the Hulk TV series (even though he did have prostetics) not a CG Interpreted Resemblance to an actor like Mark.

Avatar showed this well.....bone structure was not spot on line for line but they RESEMBLED the characters they were portraying, some more obvious than others.

They can easily have Hulk with a stronger jaw and scrunched up Barbaric looking nose while still maintaning the overall feel and look of Ruffalo.

This is just my opinion.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

You think Al Milgrim is the greatest Hulk artist of all time?
Really?

Poster expresses shock and disbelief at differing artist preference - film at 11.

 

[ArtTeacher]

No disrespect but I dont think you should go about ripping on that above example because chins and eyebrows dont line up line for line.

I'm not ripping on it; the point was, the left side of the face (Banner) looks nothing like the right side (Hulk). Any "resemblance" is that they both have eyes, a mouth, ears, etc.

They can easily have Hulk with a stronger jaw and scrunched up Barbaric looking nose while still maintaning the overall feel and look of Ruffalo.

Of course they *can* do this--my point is, why would they? They never have in the comics.
They didn't redesign Spider-Man's mask to make it look more like Tobey Maguire.
It's not like the audience can ~only~ believe that a man can turn into a green monster if and only if he resembles the original actor enough.
Instead of spending CGI money on redesigning him to look like Ruffalo (thereby making it even MORE of a point to the audience that it isn't Ed Norton), just make the Hulk we've already seen (2008's design) look that much more ingrained into the environment and natural when interacting with other characters.

Poster expresses shock and disbelief at differing artist preference - film at 11.

Whiskey Tango still has a crush on me, while adding nothing to the thread (you know...that thing he accuses others of doing)--film at 1:52 PM.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Who on earth is this Al Milgrim guy - do you think he knows Al Milgrom?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Who on earth is this Al Milgrim guy - do you think he knows Al Milgrom?

That guy loves criticism. You must have a crush on him too.

 

[ArtTeacher]

Who on earth is this Al Milgrim guy - do you think he knows Al Milgrom?

Oops! Thanks! Corrected.

That guy loves criticism. You must have a crush on him too.

Ah-ha! I knew it!