The Iran Thread

[Paradyme]

Well they go into space and have multiple components which make it hard for a targetting system to hit the right part since the larger hotter components (fuel and ignition parts) are typically picked up leaving the warhead to drop unopposed. It was the same problem the patriots had with the scud missiles. These types of issues were the basis for the star wars program, using satellites to shoot down the components when they reach space.

Systems like the Aegis are brilliant at taking down things like cruise missiles or other planetary weaponry but once you leave atmosphere it's tricky for any sensors to follow and track through the atmosphere levels (suprisingly similiar to why subs can have trouble at certian depths). But systems like the aegis use guns to shoot down the missiles and the guns only have a certian range of accuracy and orbit isn't there.

I was going to mention that. That was why the missle defense shield in Europe was so important. From the film I saw they said it was functional and that they could hit anywhere on the missle they wanted with superb accuracy (wish I could remember his exact wording).

 

[hippie_hunter]

LOL.



They live in a part of the world that they are not liked and not wanted, yet still insist on living there. They live there because they think God wants them to. If that isn't bat**** crazy I don't know what is.

Did you hear Netanyahu making those comments at the G20 summit. Who does that guy think he is?

Iran is in more danger of Israel attacking it than the other way around.

Netanyahu is a wack job. Electing Lukid was the equivalent of the Palestinians electing Hamas. In order for there to be peace, Kadima and Fatah need to be in power.

But attacking Israel is one of the stupidest things ever. Especially since they have one of the most powerful intelligence/assassination agencies in the world and one of the best trained armies in the world.

 

[Paradoxium]

I have to agree with bell110, in that it is crazy they are staying a region with so many people that want to lynch them. If nothing else, almost a competition of who can lynch them better.

 

[Paradoxium]

Medina is holier than Damascus and Mecca is a part of Saudi Arabia. A nation that would be willing to recognize Israel if Israel ends their settlements in the West Bank. Why nuke the most powerful, and a rational one to boot, Islamic power?

Because there would be pretty much nothing left of Israel at this point as a rally around the flag enemy. Then see this as blowback from the meddlings of the radicals, then the Saudi will want to try to clamp down on them. It's a crazy tactic though, I really hope it never comes down to something like this.

 

[Kurosawa]

Yeah, because killing hundreds of civilians in matter of weeks and shutting off foreign aid to Palestine isn't "bat-**** crazy".

Do I have to drag out all the accounts of Palestinian attacks and killings of Israeli civilians including multiple attacks on children, along with rampant antisemitism in much of the Middle eastern press? I can 100% guarantee you if the Palestinians wanted peace (which they have turned down even with 90%+ of their demands met), then Israel would accept it.

 

[GreenKToo]

Scary times indeed. Ahmandinejad has stated time and time again that Israel should be exterminated. I think he means what he says.

What scares me the most tho is not the possible missile attck by Iran on Israel or europe, but the lone man or group that sneaks in a small device into one of the U.S. cities. I think its a matter of *when* it happens, not *if* it happens.

A dirty bomb or small nuclear device detonated on American soil would pretty much take us out of the equation, for the short term anyway. total chaos would follow.
As bad as 911 was, a hit like that would make 911 look like a holiday in comparison.

Either way you look at it, a Nuclear attack on Israel or Eurpoe, or an attack on America by a terrorist group, will most likely mean WWIII. scary indeed.

It would be nice if we could just ignore the problem and hope it never happens, but we all know that wont happen.

 

[Kelly]

Scary times indeed. Ahmandinejad has stated time and time again that Israel should be exterminated. I think he means what he says.

What scares me the most tho is not the possible missile attck by Iran on Israel or europe, but the lone man or group that sneaks in a small device into one of the U.S. cities. I think its a matter of *when* it happens, not *if* it happens.

A dirty bomb or small nuclear device detonated on American soil would pretty much take us out of the equation, for the short term anyway. total chaos would follow.
As bad as 911 was, a hit like that would make 911 look like a holiday in comparison.

Either way you look at it, a Nuclear attack on Israel or Eurpoe, or an attack on America by a terrorist group, will most likely mean WWIII. scary indeed.

It would be nice if we could just ignore the problem and hope it never happens, but we all know that wont happen.

I think recent FBI crackdowns show us that our biggest enemies are one of our own......not Iran, as far as things here on our own soil.

 

[Raiden]

Scary times indeed. Ahmandinejad has stated time and time again that Israel should be exterminated. I think he means what he says.

What scares me the most tho is not the possible missile attck by Iran on Israel or europe, but the lone man or group that sneaks in a small device into one of the U.S. cities. I think its a matter of *when* it happens, not *if* it happens.

A dirty bomb or small nuclear device detonated on American soil would pretty much take us out of the equation, for the short term anyway. total chaos would follow.
As bad as 911 was, a hit like that would make 911 look like a holiday in comparison.

Either way you look at it, a Nuclear attack on Israel or Eurpoe, or an attack on America by a terrorist group, will most likely mean WWIII. scary indeed.

It would be nice if we could just ignore the problem and hope it never happens, but we all know that wont happen.

Yeah, it's scary but not totally impossible that these scenarios may happen, and unlike past wars nowadays we are wielding wars against those elusive terriorist groups who don't have an army, but they are carrying out their attacks using weapons that will cause massive casualties with minimal efforts, and their tactics are unconventional but davastating if succeed.

 

[omid17]

Iran Nuclear Talks in Geneva: So Far, So Good

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599192732700

 

[Marx]

Iran Nuclear Talks in Geneva: So Far, So Good

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599192732700

Let's hope that talks continue to go well.

 

[Paradoxium]

Is The U.S. Preparing To Bomb Iran? Pentagon Submits MOP Funding Request

Well... we saw this one coming....

 

[Marx]

Great...just great.

 

[Paradoxium]

My feeling is Obama knew this was an inevitability, you guys remember his comments on Iran before he was sworn in last year? It sucks to be in his position, I feel for him in this sense - having to be put in such binds.

 

[omid17]

Disappearance of Iranian scientist creates mystery

 

[Hobgoblin]

Is The U.S. Preparing To Bomb Iran? Pentagon Submits MOP Funding Request

Well... we saw this one coming....

Thats...super.

 

[Raiden]

My feeling is Obama knew this was an inevitability, you guys remember his comments on Iran before he was sworn in last year? It sucks to be in his position, I feel for him in this sense - having to be put in such binds.

Unlike Bush, I don't think Obama wants U.S. to get involved in another conflict if he can help it, but I think Iran's continuing development of the nuclear weapon is leaving him no choice. If Iran does get their weapon, it will be too late. I don't want U.S. to get sucked into yet another war, but I also don't think we can afford to let the Iranian government have a nuke at their disposal.

 

[Paradoxium]

Israel would attack Iran if sanctions weren't in place by Christmas

 

[Marx]

This situation is just getting worse and worse...

 

[Hobgoblin]

Well, maybe this Sneh guy is Israel's Joe Biden....


Seriously, will Israel attack Iran now that this info is out in the open? The element of surprise is gone.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Meh, Iran would have probably expected it even without the news report.

 

[Dude101]

Does this mean were screwed I dont think we can handle three wars our Military maybe stretch to thin.

 

[Timstuff]

We're supposed to have allies for this sort of thing. Whatever is happening with that?

 

[Hobgoblin]

I dont see how the situation could end well, the way its going. On one hand, Israel really doesnt have much choice but to strike Iran. Diplomacy is still being worked out but who knows how long that will take, or if the Iranians will even keep the bargain. On the other, the repercussions from attacking Iran will be painful. Will they send troops into Iraq? Will they shut down the Straights of Hormuz? Give the go ahead to their terror cells around the world? Or all of the above?

 

[Paradoxium]

Rebuilding Afghanistan, Bombing Pakistan, Iraq and if Iran happens (that is America jumps into the fray with or without Israel).... Thucydides will be rolling in his grave.

Even Hitler failed by stretching it thin with the Russians.

 

[Kurosawa]

We're supposed to have allies for this sort of thing. Whatever is happening with that?

They aren't gonna help us with anything, whether they love our leaders or hate them. We're on our own from now on.

That's why it's time for us to start pulling back from policing the world, imo. Why should we try to protect a world that hates us?