Iron Man 3 The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - Part 1

[Dark Raven]

Making the Rings Chitauri or Asgardian would certainly work better than introducing a brand new alien race, the Zenn-Lavians....who sure as hell haven't been developed much even in the comic book world, let alone trying to come up with some sort of excuse and backstory for them in the MCU.

But even doing that still begs the question of whether or not audiences would be okay with the concept of a supervillain who *just happens* to get great powers from an alien who *just happens* to crash in a distant secluded valley that Mandarin *just happens* to be wandering through at the time. Again, even in the comic book universe, Mandarin's origin has been hard to swallow, and that's saying something. Practically every animated version of the character has rejected that origin completely, and modern writers tend to pretend that Mandarin just made the **** up as self-aggrandizement.

It doesn't have to be a coincidence. If SHIELD or someone wants to study the Leviathan, they might have scientists (some of whom are working for the Mandarin) come and study it, or parts of it might be taken to Mongolia. When he learns that it has technology that he could utilise, he could send some lackeys to recover it, or he could go and do that himself if he felt so inclined.

If the Chitauri have some little ring like devices (or they don't even have to be rings but Mandarin can fashion them into that) that are essentially like the stones on the Infinity Gauntlet which Thanos uses, then that would tie into both of these things which have already been set up, and could explain why the Mandarin has this power source which seems to enable him to turn tricks. If they are stones, rather than rings, then maybe the best way to actually wear them is on a set of rings, which he already has (they're just ordinary rings that he's given out to his 10 Rings organisation). Thus it's not the rings per se but the stones mounted on them (from something like the Infinity Gauntlet) that give him his powers.

 

[marvel_freshman]

WECT reports:

Iron Works productions plans to film at least one [driving] scene of Iron Man 3 in Cary next week. The production's Assistant Location Manager Ben Stolte requested four motorcycle officers from the Town of Cary to escort a caravan down the street as crews are filming and to briefly hold traffic at a few intersections they would cross in the process.

 

[Rock Sexton]

It doesn't have to be a coincidence. If SHIELD or someone wants to study the Leviathan, they might have scientists (some of whom are working for the Mandarin) come and study it, or parts of it might be taken to Mongolia. When he learns that it has technology that he could utilise, he could send some lackeys to recover it, or he could go and do that himself if he felt so inclined.

If the Chitauri have some little ring like devices (or they don't even have to be rings but Mandarin can fashion them into that) that are essentially like the stones on the Infinity Gauntlet which Thanos uses, then that would tie into both of these things which have already been set up, and could explain why the Mandarin has this power source which seems to enable him to turn tricks. If they are stones, rather than rings, then maybe the best way to actually wear them is on a set of rings, which he already has (they're just ordinary rings that he's given out to his 10 Rings organisation). Thus it's not the rings per se but the stones mounted on them (from something like the Infinity Gauntlet) that give him his powers.

Gotta be careful how many times they pull the "reverse engineering" card in the MCU. Stark's did it with the cube (after his father initiated the research). SHIELD did it with the Destroyer gun. I dunno how many more times it'll remain palatable before becoming laughable.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Making the Rings Chitauri or Asgardian would certainly work better than introducing a brand new alien race, the Zenn-Lavians....who sure as hell haven't been developed much even in the comic book world, let alone trying to come up with some sort of excuse and backstory for them in the MCU.

But even doing that still begs the question of whether or not audiences would be okay with the concept of a supervillain who *just happens* to get great powers from an alien who *just happens* to crash in a distant secluded valley that Mandarin *just happens* to be wandering through at the time. Again, even in the comic book universe, Mandarin's origin has been hard to swallow, and that's saying something. Practically every animated version of the character has rejected that origin completely, and modern writers tend to pretend that Mandarin just made the **** up as self-aggrandizement.



Yeah, I'm well-versed in Joseph Campbell mythology, Hero With A Thousand Faces, etc. etc. But readers/viewers/players are looking for origin stories that are plausible within the context of their story. Even with the Chitauri and Asgardians wandering around the cosmos, the concept of a big-ass dragon flying a spaceship and crashing it into Outer Mongolia gets to be a bit ridiculous for what the MCU has laid out so far.

I agree. Though I think it would be cool if Mandarin believes his lineage or himself is the legend of a (of course made up) ancient mythological character who was granted 10 magical rings from a dragon who fell from the skies

 

[marvel_freshman]

The local news is reporting filming will take place on June 6th, around the “SAS campus likely using Harrison Avenue, Cary Parkway or Weston Parkway.” Another tipster also emailed us some more details writing, “Iron Man 3 will be filming at SAS in Cary, NC on Monday through Wednesday. There will be lots of extras and minimal overnight security presence.”

http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2012/06/01/iron-man-3-filming-in-cary-n-c-on-june-4-june-5-2012/

 

[Adamantium Man]

Yeah, I'm well-versed in Joseph Campbell mythology, Hero With A Thousand Faces, etc. etc. But readers/viewers/players are looking for origin stories that are plausible within the context of their story. Even with the Chitauri and Asgardians wandering around the cosmos, the concept of a big-ass dragon flying a spaceship and crashing it into Outer Mongolia gets to be a bit ridiculous for what the MCU has laid out so far.

I'm not disagreeing. The point I was trying to make was that there's only so many basic plots. If you tell even that basic plot badly, then it's a bad story. If you tell it well - even if it's been told a hundred times before -, it'll be a classic for the ages.

Which was a reply to your point that Mandy's origin is the same as Green Lantern's. And I'm not disagreeing, either. I'm saying that it's all in the details.

 

[Hawkingbird]

I can't believe this time last year it was Avengers. Christ.

 

[cherokeesam]

I agree. Though I think it would be cool if Mandarin believes his lineage or himself is the legend of a (of course made up) ancient mythological character who was granted 10 magical rings from a dragon who fell from the skies

Now that could work. Something that makes Mandarin's powers mystical rather than some alien tech that he plundered from a random flying saucer that's never referenced again in his story. At least Hal Jordan was chosen and given ample instruction in using his ring; Mandarin just snatched up ten of them and *somehow* knows what each's power is, how to use it, how to command it, etc.

 

[Danalys]

It doesn't have to be a coincidence. If SHIELD or someone wants to study the Leviathan, they might have scientists (some of whom are working for the Mandarin) come and study it, or parts of it might be taken to Mongolia. When he learns that it has technology that he could utilise, he could send some lackeys to recover it, or he could go and do that himself if he felt so inclined.

If the Chitauri have some little ring like devices (or they don't even have to be rings but Mandarin can fashion them into that) that are essentially like the stones on the Infinity Gauntlet which Thanos uses, then that would tie into both of these things which have already been set up, and could explain why the Mandarin has this power source which seems to enable him to turn tricks. If they are stones, rather than rings, then maybe the best way to actually wear them is on a set of rings, which he already has (they're just ordinary rings that he's given out to his 10 Rings organisation). Thus it's not the rings per se but the stones mounted on them (from something like the Infinity Gauntlet) that give him his powers.

i like the idea of them being related to the gems of the gauntlet, like a failed attempt at what ever birthed the infinity gems, but not via the chitauri who seemed to be small scale reanimated corpses of some alien race thanos used as fodder.

i'd tie their powers into what we understand of quantum mechanics. like different rings could effect the different spins. the destruction ring could weaken the weak force until things break apart. i'd want them each to be able to have a possible explanation in that manor even if it wasn't explained in the film or didn't result in the exact same powerset as the manderin traditionally has.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

It's hard for me to speculate on Mandarin right now since I really didn't expect him to be a part of the movies. In truth I've never really followed his history until most recently in the latest Iron Man run. I like how his character is being portrayed, but I'm aware that they're kind of brushing over his origin and just kind of updating the character a little.

I don't think I'd completely rule out any mysticism on his part since Marvel has introduced us to aliens and Asgard at this point, but at the same time I don't think it fits in this world that Iron Man resides in. I'm pretty much all about Extremis taking the central role of this story and I hope it's at least one of the main focuses above all else. The real moral to take away from Extremis is how does Tony evolve to combat the evolving threats around him? It really plays into his role as a futurist and gives the audience a real look into his mind and how he thinks. I'd hate for any of that to be overshadowed by another hint at something Thanos might do in the next Avengers movie, by whatever power Mandarin is using.

I'm definitely excited though. Something about the movie being filmed in my home state just makes me all the more pumped up for it.

 

[The Infernal]

Gotta be careful how many times they pull the "reverse engineering" card in the MCU. Stark's did it with the cube (after his father initiated the research). SHIELD did it with the Destroyer gun. I dunno how many more times it'll remain palatable before becoming laughable.

This is a good point. Though I loved that moment in Avengers, I couldn't help but feel once he had said it was tech based on the Destroyer I though to myself that maybe something as powerful as the Destroyer shouldn't be able to be recreated by humans (even if it is SHEILD).

 

[Crimson King]

http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2012/06/01/iron-man-3-filming-in-cary-n-c-on-june-4-june-5-2012/

That's right by my house! And a friend of mine works at SAS. They were looking for people with "high-end cars" to appear as extras.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

GET READY FOR THE FIRST WORLD EXCLUSIVE LOOK AT IRON MAN 3 - TOMORROW, MONDAY (4th of JUNE - 11pm)!!!

 

[Kane52630]

GET READY FOR THE FIRST WORLD EXCLUSIVE LOOK AT IRON MAN 3 - TOMORROW, MONDAY (4th of JUNE - 11pm)!!!

 

[Hunter Rider]

Will this look be debuting online?

 

[Kane52630]

It hasn't even been a week of filming and already a first look.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Will this look be debuting online?

"YES! OH, YES!"

 

[cherokeesam]

That's right by my house! And a friend of mine works at SAS. They were looking for people with "high-end cars" to appear as extras.

I'm guessing SAS is supposed to double as the campus for whatever tech firm Killian worked for....I can't remember the name of it right now.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Whoa, already???

Not that I'm complaining.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Am I being punk'd or is this real?

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Am I being punk'd or is this real?

No, you're not) But just in case:

 

[Hunter Rider]

"YES! OH, YES!"

 

[marvel_freshman]

Awesome! Glad I don't have school tomorrow!)

 

[JP]

I fist look at WHAT exactly?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

No, you're not) But just in case:

Why do I have a feeling it's going to be this.