Iron Man 3 The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - Part 1

[The Infernal]

Also, is Sam Rockwell returning as Justin Hammer or not?

There's been no word so far. So if he is it's being kept under wraps. I'm assuming he's contracted for more if they need him. Also, as much as I'd like to see him return I'm not so sure they could do anything more than a cameo since they already have Guy Pearce and Ben Kingsley.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

These are some of my worries as well, but it can be done. Nolan's Batman films juggle a ton of characters well. Avengers was great with it as well. All of those films are 2:20 or over, so IM3 is going to have to be longer than the first two to pull this off, but its certainly not a stretch.

Very true. I think Avengers has been the film with the longest runtime so far, but I could be wrong. I would hope that if this is to be Downey's send-off (who knows at this point) they'd stretch it out as long as the could.

Personally I love the Iron Patriot pics. The suit looks great. As long as there is a good story behind the suit and whoever is in the suit, I'm fine with it. I really feel this is like IM2's Whiplash being multiple comic characters fused into one, which if done right, is fine by me.

With Kingsley and Pearce joining the team, I think there is a lot of potential for this film. We shall see.

I was just pleasantly surprised by the reveal. I realize the likelihood of any kind of Dark Avengers foreshadowing is slim, but the fact that they're using IP at all is pretty interesting since that story was told fairly recently ago. I think Extremis was done back in 2006 and I didn't expect them to pull ideas from anything more recent than that.

I also can't really understand why anyone would think Osborn would be in that thing. I think it's about time everyone understood that Marvel and Sony are not joining properties. It's just not going to happen. This seems to be a very hard concept for some.

Also, is Sam Rockwell returning as Justin Hammer or not?

I feel like if they included him they'd have to do a pretty big overhaul of his character. The film already sounds like it's going to have a darker kind of tone to it, so I don't expect his over the top humor to play any kind of role in this story.

Not everyone was a fan of Iron Patriot and what they did with Osborn, I'm guessing. Others are probably wary of any potential crossover between the movies (though that's probably unlikely).

It's unlikely to be Norman in the armour (*sad face*) and less likely in my opinion that there's any Dark Avengers foreshadowing. I'm guessing it's some random guy in the IP armour (just another composite character).

Also, I wouldn't look to see many of these villains or the rumoured Chinese armoured heroes being that well developed, they're more likely just relatively minor supporting characters outside of action scenes. So I don't see them needing an especially long movie to fit it all in.

I think that the whole idea of IP in the comics was that the readers were never supposed to like him anyway. He's a walking contradiction to everything Cap and Tony stand for. Osborn is basically stomping on their good reputations by donning that armor, so if this film takes a similar approach I think it will be really cool.

 

[weezerspider]

I agree with you guys. A cameo is about the only thing possible for Sam, but I'd love it for continuity purposes. Especially if the Armor Wars thing is a big plot point.

 

[kane9321]

How are they gona put Iron Patriot in this? WHAT THE HELL
Maybe detroit steel..that i can see

 

[HighFivingMF]

Or maybe it's an armor that happens to be red, white, and blue?

 

[The Infernal]

Or maybe it's an armor that happens to be red, white, and blue?

With virtually the same design as Iron Patriot.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

My theory on IP is that a possible rival of Tony's is going to get his hands on the War Machine armor (I heard something about Rhodey being kidnapped) redesign it, and convince government officials why he would be a better solution that IM, at least as far as the US Military is concerned.

It's kind of a stretch in some cases, but if you look at Dark Avengers, Osborn basically did the same thing and was able to convince people to believe that he was a better solution for protecting the world than the Avengers were.

We maybe heard a hint to this at the end of Avengers during the newsreel segment after the final battle. There was a clip of a politician harping on the Avengers and saying they needed to be held responsible for damages done to NYC. So there could be the possibility of a crooked politician trying to form a government sanctioned team with IP at the head and we could expect a few dirty deals during their formation, i.e. Rhodey being kidnapped and the War Machine armor being modified. I can further see this playing into some grand design by the Mandarin.

Just my thoughts.

 

[TheVileOne]

Is anyone else concerned this movie is getting very overcrowded with perhaps multiple armored bad guys or henchmen but also Killian, the lady scientist, and the Mandarin?

I'd really like to know who Kingsley is playing.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Is anyone else concerned this movie is getting very overcrowded with perhaps multiple armored bad guys or henchmen but also Killian, the lady scientist, and the Mandarin?

I'd really like to know who Kingsley is playing.

well.. just because they are a character from the comics, doesn't mean they're going to have a large part, or any form of character development. Is Happy Hogan had much character development? No, is it needed? nope, he's fine doing what he does.

 

[Danalys]

well then we're just going to have to agree to disagree. you're wanting plot point proof that isn't there (because Fav's didn't want to spoil his film plans)

but the proof we have is enough for me.

• Raza was indeed a member of the 10 rings
• Stane killed Raza (regardless of what the actor said, they have no info what so ever to the fate of their characters usually)
• Stane took Raza's ring (the rings have also been confirmed to all be the symbol of the "10 rings of the mandarin, think of them as "terrorist/arms dealing rings" "

• The men who freed Vanko were members of the 10 rings (they are credited as such thus makes them what they are.... Vanko was never called "whiplash" either, but was credited as such) and regardless of if they work directly for Mandarin or Hammer, it doesn't matter.. they are part of the 10 rings

• Hammer wears one of the 10 rings on his finger this makes one assume he knows more than we are let on in the film

• Fav's is quoted as saying the mandarin has been pulling stings the whole time, and that the way he's setting up the Ironman films is that while the mandarin is pulling strings, he's still able to showcase the "pantheon" of ironman villains. Thus alluding to the fact that the mandarin is connected to all the main villains...

It's far more proof towards anything else we have now.. and the signs all point to it.

I never said Mandarin planned the outcome of Iron Man 2, but I do believe he wanted Hammer to receive Vanko (let's face it.. Hammer doesn't seem like the type who could have orchestrated the prison break) and use his intelligence and hatred for the stark family to his advantage.

the guy who gave vanko his tickets to monaco was also a member of the ten rings.

 

[Danalys]

well.. just because they are a character from the comics, doesn't mean they're going to have a large part, or any form of character development. Is Happy Hogan had much character development? No, is it needed? nope, he's fine doing what he does.

the commandos in captain america only got a brief bit to show their general attitude and effectiveness.

 

[cherokeesam]

We maybe heard a hint to this at the end of Avengers during the newsreel segment after the final battle. There was a clip of a politician harping on the Avengers and saying they needed to be held responsible for damages done to NYC. So there could be the possibility of a crooked politician trying to form a government sanctioned team with IP at the head and we could expect a few dirty deals during their formation, i.e. Rhodey being kidnapped and the War Machine armor being modified. I can further see this playing into some grand design by the Mandarin.

Just my thoughts.

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***DING DING DING*** we have a winnah.

I completely forgot about the connection of Boynton. Sen. Boynton is the guy at the end of the Avengers movie in that clip you describe, the senator. And in the comics, he did EXACTLY what you just described --- Project Firepower, where he created the Firepower armor (ALSO confirmed to be in IM3) through the US armed forces to take out Iron Man who was in the middle of declaring war on all armored heroes/villains during the Armor Wars story arc.

So this is *definitely* Armor Wars and Project Firepower. And I distinctly remember someone --- maybe RDJ --- saying that the ending of Avengers would actually clue you in to what IM3 was going to be about, if you knew what to look for.

 

[Dark Raven]

Was Senator Boynton in the Avengers? I didn't see, but there was too much to process at the time, and it was probably a very brief, blink-and-you'll-miss-it clip. Did it actually use his name?

Boynton did approve Firepower, but it was Edwin Cord who developed it, and then turned it against Boynton.

 

[Avenger]

I don't remember seeing his name, but that politician being Boynton certainly makes sense. Maybe that's who William Sadler will be playing?

 

[The Infernal]

Is anyone else concerned this movie is getting very overcrowded with perhaps multiple armored bad guys or henchmen but also Killian, the lady scientist, and the Mandarin?

I'd really like to know who Kingsley is playing.

Nope, you're the first to mention this.

 

[cherokeesam]

I don't remember seeing his name, but that politician being Boynton certainly makes sense. Maybe that's who William Sadler will be playing?

Yeah, the "CNN" caption specifically says "Sen. Boynton." And he's listed in the credits: James Eckhouse as Sen. Boynton.

William Sadler was confirmed to be playing Firepower in IM3.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

William Sadler's cool, I hadn't heard he was in this.

 

[Dark Raven]

Yeah, the "CNN" caption specifically says "Sen. Boynton." And he's listed in the credits: James Eckhouse as Sen. Boynton.

William Sadler was confirmed to be playing Firepower in IM3.

I thought that was Ashley Hamilton who is playing Firepower.

 

[cherokeesam]

I thought that was Ashley Hamilton who is playing Firepower.

****, you're right.
I don't think we know who Sadler is playing yet, right?

 

[The Ironstar]

thats moronic, the whole concept of the iron patriot was osborne's middle finger to stark and rodgers, without the right man behind the suit the character loses a hell of a lot of impact

Is 'Iron Patroit' a Micheal Bendis product?

 

[The Ironstar]

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Ha Ha VERY FUNNY!!

 

[marvel_freshman]

They’ve been filming in studio (except tues when they did 1 day on location) Iron patriot scene was at the ILM airport Tues — The scenes were the president arriving with military and secret service

That's from a well-trusted local of the area apparently.

 

[The Ironstar]

These make me think that IP meets AF1......

ok,I'll take it back what I wrote earlier. Apparently the Iron Patriot is government created since IM2, the government wanted Stark to give up the tech on Iron Man.

 

[The Ironstar]

I assume the Iron Patriot sub-plot will be a continuation of Iron Man 2's Stern/Hammer sub-plot. After Cap reappearing they obviously went for something patriotic instead of the all-business War Machine.

Also, the coloring-scheme seem to be based on Captain America's movie-costume instead of the Iron Patriot from the comics, which is a nice touch.

Wonder if there will be any mention of the government trying to get Cap in that armor.

Y.I'm thinking that way also. It makes sense w/terrorist and China involve.

 

[The Ironstar]

We've also got to accept that at some point they're likely may be no excuses and it will just be Iron Man's adventure. Much like in the comics they're not always going to say why so and so can't be here or something like that. I also don't think many people will notice if the story doesn't go too far, since I do think there is a logical point at which you can't help but ask 'why are they doing this alone?'. Though I don't think the 'threat' of a war is necessarily that point.

If James Bond can do it by himself then Stark will be home in time for tea.

And get it on w/female at the end

"Tony? Tony Stark!? Where are y!!??
Tony Stark: "Taking my armor off" t: