Joker "The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached? - Part 2

[Guts]

This really says a lot about our society.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Treading #1

 

[Erik Lensherr]

wow, that sounds pretty much identical

 

[Jekecy]

wow, that sounds pretty much identical

Yeah, with Joaquin saying he had to nail the laugh before committing to the part, it’s hard not to see him studying Hamill. Mark’s the only one who really draws out his laugh in such a way.

 

[Thanoss]

This message from this trailer, it looks like a V for Vendetta , the ability to motivates the others or vice versa,

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I think the biggest disappointment that will come with this film is that we'll never see Joaquin's Joker face off against a Batman

from what we've seen thus far, I have the utmost confidence that he will smash this role

 

[terry78]

You never know. It'd be a treat to see how Pattinson would hold up against Phoenix, but hey.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Deck Rickard]

Great trailer. I'm not crazy about Joaquin's laugh but the scene where he does it pretty much confirms to me that it's put on; like he's doing it just to get a reaction. Really looking forward to this.

 

[Jekecy]

We really gonna erase Leto from history aren’t we.

 

[Deck Rickard]

We really gonna erase Leto from history aren’t we.

No, he'll remind us all why he should never appear in white makeup in a CBM again who Morbius comes out.

 

[Closerframe]

Can we please just move on from the idea of this Joker facing Batman? His story and portrayal seems to lend itself to a standalone film. No need to force Reeves into trying to incorporate someone else's vision into his sandbox.

 

[Boom]

We really gonna erase Leto from history aren’t we.

A real-life Thanos Snap.

 

[Gothamsknight]

We really gonna erase Leto from history aren’t we.

We must haha

 

[Hollis Mason]

Gotham looks incredible.Truly feels like a ****hole.

 

[The Shape]

Great trailer. I'm not crazy about Joaquin's laugh but the scene where he does it pretty much confirms to me that it's put on; like he's doing it just to get a reaction. Really looking forward to this.

Wrong.

"“I saw videos showing people suffering from pathological laughter, a mental illness that makes mimicry uncontrollable,” the actor explained. The incredibly unfunny disease causes involuntary laughter or crying, usually separate from any kind of conventional trigger.

 

[Rocanrol]

Can we please just move on from the idea of this Joker facing Batman? His story and portrayal seems to lend itself to a standalone film. No need to force Reeves into trying to incorporate someone else's vision into his sandbox.

Yeah, just as we should move from the idea of fire burning with fuel.

The biggest problem I have with this movie is that it feels like an out-of-date Scorsese film with another out-of-touch, isolated madman. They just added the facepaint and throwed some cannon names.

 

[Hollis Mason]

Yeah, just as we should move from the idea of fire burning with fuel.

The biggest problem I have with this movie is that it feels like an out-of-date Scorsese film with another out-of-touch, isolated madman. They just added the facepaint and throwed some cannon names.

And what's exactly wrong with a movie feeling like a Scorsese film? Almost every single one of his movies are masterpieces better than anything in the comic book genre.
Or trying to be original and add something to the lore instead of just adapting? Phillips said it better, they will make another version of Joker in some years, and then another, and another... This is a small new version about him that doesn't want to start a cinematic universe or make more sequels. If you don't like it, don't worry, just ignore it and wait for the next adaptation.

Joker is an interesting character that can be explored. Closing a character and not letting it reach it's full potential it's the worst thing a writer can do. Just watch how good this movie looks. It's something original and fresh. That's how art is created: new ideas, visions, etc. Not being afraid because you aren't following the rules.

 

[Rocanrol]

And what's exactly wrong with a movie feeling like a Scorsese film?

Nothing at all.

Or trying to be original and add something to the lore instead of just adapting?

Why add more superfluos lore, having 80 years of it? I deem that unnecesary, and this lore in particular actively strays away from the symbolic aspect of the Joker. It's a Joker movie just in name. I will enjoy it, but not as a Joker movie, but as a scorsese-like movie.

Phillips said it better, they will make another version of Joker in some years, and then another, and another... This is a small new take about him that doesn't want to start a cinematic universe or make more sequels. If you don't like it, don't worry, just ignore it and wait for the next adaptation.

Unnecesary trying to make something different for the sake of it. I'm tired of all this "subvert expectations" or trying to be "original" trend, when in reality it's all bs.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Tg11]

Love that this will be R Rated

 

[Hollis Mason]

Nothing at all.



Why add more superfluos lore, having 80 years of it? I deem that unnecesary, and this lore in particular actively strays away from the symbolic aspect of the Joker. It's a Joker movie just in name. I will enjoy it, but not as a Joker movie, but as a scorsese-like movie.



Unnecesary trying to make something different for the sake of it. I'm tired of all this "subvert expectations" or trying to be "original" trend, when in reality it's all bs.

Well that's a terrible viewing of things, imo. Just because something is old doesn't mean you can't add things to the lore, specially if they're good thing. By your point we shouldn't try anything new that my add quality to the character or the genre just because we don't like change. I'm not talking about adding stupidity to a saga like The Last Jedi, but actually do good things. Just look at what Miller and Moore did with TDKR, Year One and The Killing Joke. If we thought as you do, we still would have a batman telling jokes and dancing. Same thing with Born Again. Or Watchmen. Or so many stories that took risks and changed industry.

I'm sorry but that way of thinking is the reason why Hollywood keeps remaking and adapting **** instead of trying to do something original and fresh. Because fans prefer to feel confortable instead of willing to take risks and do something that may be better than the past. This is a terrible thing. I can't believe someone would be against new ideas. A genre needs to change and adapt to new vibes. That's how it works. You can't just keep playing the same thing over and over.

Also, this movie isn't related to a cinematic universe. It's an elseworld story. DC has been doing this kind of things since 80s (I think). Difference is that it is a movie now. There's a freaking new Batman film coming soon.

 

[Flint Marko]

Wrong.

"“I saw videos showing people suffering from pathological laughter, a mental illness that makes mimicry uncontrollable,” the actor explained. The incredibly unfunny disease causes involuntary laughter or crying, usually separate from any kind of conventional trigger.

Is that his inspiration for the laugh, or is that something the character is going to be suffering from?

 

[hellblazer103]

I'm not one of those "everything must be R" guys per say, but in this case, if it weren't rated R it'd literally not be worth it at all .

A dark character study of a disturbed individual and one of the most twisted and evil DC villains of all time? Yeah nah let's make that nice and PG . Please....

 

[Kane52630]