Joker "The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached? - Part 2

Yeah except if you look at the context of this "sexually aggressive" act it tells you it was done simply because "He knows exactly how to rattle Batman". Its telling you right there in detail he did it to intimidate Batman - "He has precisely discerned how to make Batman most uncomfortable, most intimidated". Not because he wants to get in his Bat-pants to rape him. There's no sexual desires here. That's just Joker doing what he does best. Getting under the skin. And all he had to do was slap Batman's butt.

It doesn't matter what the early draft had. Early drafts of stories, whether they're comics, movies, books or what ever can have all kinds of crazy stuff that is a million miles off from what ended up being the final draft. What we got in the end is all that counts. What we got was Joker simply slapping Batman's butt to rattle his cage.
I never said Joker was trying to rape Batman. Just clarifying that it was one of the instances in the comic of Joker being sexual. There's plenty of moments in that comic where Joker is making sexual references.
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I never said Joker was trying to rape Batman. Just clarifying that it was one of the instances in the comic of Joker being sexual. There's plenty of moments in that comic where Joker is making sexual references.
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I know that. I've read the comic. I own the comic. The only thing I didn't know was that he did it to get up Batman's nose. I thought it was Joker just being playful like how he sometimes calls Batman darling or sweetie. But he was just doing it to intimidate him. End result is the same though. There was no sexual desires there. He was Joker being Joker trying to rattle his cage.
 
I know that. I've read the comic. I own the comic. The only thing I didn't know was that he did it to get up Batman's nose. I thought it was Joker just being playful like how he sometimes calls Batman darling or sweetie. But he was just doing it to intimidate him. End result is the same though. There was no sexual desires there. He was Joker being Joker trying to rattle his cage.
Guess I thought Morrison was going in that direction for that comic when for so many of the other characters he takes an alternative approach. Like Maxie Zeus and his poop, Clayface just exists as a living disease, Morrison also planned for Killer Croc to resemble Joseph Merrick.
 
ViewerAnon (Guy on reddit/twitter who is very reliable) said that he has found two reactions to a recent test screening .

"Both people liked it a lot - the words creepy and sad were used. It’s apparently pretty close to the leaked script"
I really hope this is good, if only because Joaquin Phoenix is one of my absolute favorite actors working today. Would be a shame if he was in a high profile dud
 
ViewerAnon (Guy on reddit/twitter who is very reliable) said that he has found two reactions to a recent test screening .

"Both people liked it a lot - the words creepy and sad were used. It’s apparently pretty close to the leaked script"

When it comes to stuff like this ViewerAnon has proven to be pretty accurate and trustworthy. His reliability is way ahead of the Scoopers out there and the clickbaiters.
 
ViewerAnon (Guy on reddit/twitter who is very reliable) said that he has found two reactions to a recent test screening .

"Both people liked it a lot - the words creepy and sad were used. It’s apparently pretty close to the leaked script"
Sounds good to me!
 
We should probably get the next trailer by SDCC, right?
 
Hi guys! I’m new here, been visiting this site since it was named “spidermanhype”. Just decided to registered because of this movie and hopefully have great exchange with you folks!

Here’s a fanmade tv spot I made for the film :4061F41D-2B05-4138-9BAA-29C5AC93049B.jpeg
 
Hi guys! I’m new here, been visiting this site since it was named “spidermanhype”. Just decided to registered because of this movie and hopefully have great exchange with you folks!

Here’s a fanmade tv spot I made for the film :View attachment 25746

Hey Barry! Oh wow, I remember "spidermanhype", though vaguely.

The video isn't showing up for me. You just have to directly post the full Youtube link address into the post and it will automatically covert it and show up as the video.
 
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I really hope they don't overdo it in terms of trailers, TV spots, and clips.

The first teaser trailer already showed plenty, and since the movie likely won't be super long in terms of runtime, I hope they don't feel the need to spoil too much during the marketing campaign.
 
I bet all the Easter eggs and nods to the comics will be in the next trailer.
 
Hey Barry! Oh wow, I remember "spidermanhype", though vaguely.

The video isn't showing up for me. You just have to directly post the full Youtube link address into the post and it will automatically covert it and show up as the video.
Thanks Willi, will do that right now!
 


Here it is, a Tv Spot I made just because I'm a big fan of what Todd and Joaquin are reserving us.
Hope you guys enjoy it!

And I gotta a couple questions I keep asking myself for you guys:

I know the movie is a one deal, but if it is acclaimed by the critics and the public and the rumor suggesting Matt Reeves The Batman is describe as a noir type of film (which kind of fit with Todd's Joker), is there a possible-maybe-onecandream chance this interpretation do crossover with Battinson. In the sequel perhaps and/or mentioned in the first?

I kind of guess by the trailer in this movie Arthur is kind of in search of attention and he gets it, but in a terrifying and influencing way. Maybe when Battinson comes up years later, he's the new attraction in town, so he has to regain his statues by playing with him. Just a theory, but I think it would be something interesting.

Still, there's a part in me saying this may be better off as a standalone, to keep it ephemeral
and authentic, plus Joaquin lost a bunch of weights for this one, so would he agree to do it one more time?

So, what do you think may happen?
 
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Here it is, a Tv Spot I made just because I'm a big fan of what Todd and Joaquin are reserving us.
Hope you guys enjoy it!

And I gotta a couple questions I keep asking myself for you guys:

I know the movie is a one deal, but if it is acclaimed by the critics and the public and the rumor suggesting Matt Reeves The Batman is describe as a noir type of film (which kind of fit with Todd's Joker), is there a possible-maybe-onecandream chance this interpretation do crossover with Battinson. In the sequel perhaps and/or mentioned in the first?

I kind of guess by the trailer in this movie Arthur is kind of in search of attention and he gets it, but in a terrifying and influencing way. Maybe when Battinson comes up years later, he's the new attraction in town, so he has to regain his statues by playing with him. Just a theory, but I think it would be something interesting.

Still, there's a part in me saying this may be better off as a standalone, to keep it ephemeral
and authentic, plus Joaquin lost a bunch of weights for this one, so would he agree to do it one more time?

So, what do you think may happen?


Nice one, Barry.

It's hard to tell what will happen after this movie, in terms of the Batman universe. It depends on:

-as you said, on whether Joaquin and the filmmakers want to do it, want to keep it going.

-on what Matt Reeves wants to do. Whether Joaquin would want to join that universe.

-on Suicide Squad 2, and Leto's Joker.

-WB's plans for the DCEU.

Also, if this movie is more of a character study, it might not have the usual supervillain theatrics of Joker. I wonder what he will do in terms of villainy in this movie. And how it will end. It might only work as a standalone, who knows.
 
I'm surprised that Warners got several co-financing partners on this movie, namely Village Roadshow and Bron Creative.

They only put $40-55M into this movie, why not finance it completely and reap all the profits like they did with Aquaman and Shazam?
 
I'm surprised that Warners got several co-financing partners on this movie, namely Village Roadshow and Bron Creative.

They only put $40-55M into this movie, why not finance it completely and reap all the profits like they did with Aquaman and Shazam?
A lower budget always kind of Ask for more imagination and practical effects wich I think is always a win-win.

Plus the story doesnt seem to require that much money. Remember, the film is described as gritty and realistic.

No matter what, it’s gonna Make cash that’s for sure.
 
JOKER's Plot May Have LEAKED Online And It Sounds Like A Seriously Weird DC Movie - SPOILERS

Mix of old rumours and new stuff. Take it with a big grain of salt as there have been various supposed plot leaks.

Now, a reliable source who has shared accurate details about a number of movies and TV shows in the past claims to have some intel from test screenings for the movie that finally reveal what we can expect from the Clown Prince of Crime's origin story.

There are major spoilers here, including some big twists and turns and even how things play out in the final act (those particular details come from a different source, but one that lines up with what we've heard from this reputable sounding leak). Needless to say, this could be controversial!

So, to check out these Joker details, simply click on the "View List" button down below.

1981
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It's said that Joker takes place in Gotham City in 1981, and the iconic DC Comics location is at its lowest point with a crime wave and garbage strike leaving it dirtier and more dangerous than ever.

Arthur Fleck is just a nobody who works as a clown for a talent booking agency and he has a social worker keeping a close eye on him because he has some serious mental health issues. Those include an uncontrollable habit of laughing whenever he's nervous, something which doesn't help with his desire to become a stand-up comic.

He's also a caretaker for his mother, a former housekeeper for the Wayne family...

Thomas Wayne's Mission
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As expected, Thomas Wayne is running to become the new Mayor of Gotham City, and he promises to clean up the city (both literally and figuratively). He's a good man but has been ignoring his former employee, as Fleck's mother has spent months trying to contact him to no avail.

She's as deranged as her son, though, so it's hardly a surprise that he's not reading her correspondence.

Arthur's Downfall
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Fleck ends up losing his job and that appears to be the final nail in the coffin for his fractured psyche. After being mocked on the subway, he violently kills three Wall Street guys who are also harassing a young woman and these murders inspire a "Resist" movement against Gotham's wealthy elite.

With Thomas Wayne viewed as the "voice of the rich," the poor start turning on him. While this is happening, Arthur tries his hand at stand-up during an open mic night at a local comedy club. His set completely bombs, and footage of his performance ends up being sent to Live With Murray Franklin. The TV show host, played by Robert De Niro, wastes no time in ridiculing poor Arthur.

The Big Reveal
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The cops are investigating Arthur for his involvement in those murder,s but he's busy reading one of his deranged mother's letters to Thomas Wayne and stumbles across a pretty major revelation.

She claims that Arthur is the illegitimate son of Thomas Wayne and that makes Joker the half-brother of Bruce Wayne, a.k.a. Batman, a twist which has been rumoured ever since last year.

That's it from Splash Report but we've done some digging and found several other leaks online which line up with this one. However, major spoilers (including how Joker ends) now follow...

...Or Not!
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Arthur later learns that while his mother was obsessed with Thomas, they never actually slept together and he's not his son after all. However, she was aware that her boyfriend (and presumably his real father) was sexually abusing Arthur when he was a young child, so he heads to Arkham Asylum and kills her.

At this point, he's invited on to Live With Murray Franklin but fully embraces his new persona as The Joker while all of this is happening, and he murders several people who have wronged him.

Zazie Beetz's character isn't among them, despite the fact that his feelings for her were extremely one-sided and past leaks have claimed that he kills her after being rejected earlier in the movie.

Bang
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The Joker appears on that talk show but shoots Franklin in the head on air and proceeds to deliver a speech that riles up Gotham City's citizens and encourages them to rise up against the wealthy.

A riot breaks out, and it's during this that Thomas and Martha Wayne end up being gunned down (thereby providing a very different twist on the Clown Prince of Crime's origin story). The police chase Arthur down and finally catch and arrest him after he's hit by a passing taxi. The movie then ends with him in Arkham Asylum, and he's so out of his mind by this point, he dances around his cell.

Apparently, that's a recurring theme in the movie and while this scene is set to Frank Sinatra's "That's Life," the sequence of him dancing down those steps is to Elton John's "Benny And The Jets."

Not That Much Joker
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Other details revealed include the fact that Jokeris a hard R and only features Fleck in costume for around the last 30 minutes.
 
As I said before, it sounds like an another take on the character and a "what if origin". Sounds good to me!
 
Since I am apathetic to this movie, I decided to read it. Once again, meh. I just cannot muster enthusiasm for this project.
 
If that's how the story unfolds, then I'm completely fine with some of the creative choices/liberties they've taken.
 

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