Joker "The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached? - Part 2

[Gothamsknight]

Spoiler

 

[Travesty]

The ''controvesy'' has played a big part in the movie getting to $200+ worldwide opening weekend. Any publicity is good publicity.

Nobody really knows. It could've hurt it for all we know? It's hard to tell, when The Joker is one of the most popular characters in history, and the movie was also good. This movie was bound for success outside of the manufactured hysteria surrounding it. So who knows if it hurt it or helped it? Either way, it's a financial success, that's for sure.

 

[daddydivine]

If Black Panther got a BP nomination then why shouldn’t Joker?

Would be a damn travesty and show what a total joke - pun intended - the Oscars have become

First of all, Black Panther is the greatest comic book movie ever made. Secondly... I don't have any more points to make actually.

 

[Arachnerd]

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

‘Joker’ Rakes In $9.7M, Best Monday Ever In October, Cume Stands Near $106M – Deadline

More box office records to add to Joker‘s list: The Todd Phillips-directed Warner Bros./DC movie earned $9.72M yesterday, repping the best Monday in October for a movie. Joker beats Venom‘s Monday record from last year of $9.63M. The pic’s four-day run including previews stands at $105.9M.

Joker also beats September Monday B.O. record, which is owned by New Line/Warner Bros.’ It ($8.76M). Joker also blows away the Mondays of R-rated Logan ($7.2M) and DC’s PG-13 pic Justice League ($7.5M).

Even more impressive was the fact that yesterday was a non-holiday for Joker‘s turnstile action. Last year at this time, Venom made its moola on a Columbus Day Monday. Between K-12 and colleges yesterday, 11% schools were off according to Comscore. Next Monday, which is Columbus Day Monday, that combined figure jumps to 60% on break.

To date, Joker scored the best opening in October ($96.2M), career domestic record debut highs for Phillips, Joaquin Phoenix and Robert De Niro, as well as the best overseas ($152.2M) and worldwide opener ever for October ($248.2M). Joker repped the biggest opening weekend of all time for a DC movie in 9 markets including Holland, Italy ($7M), Japan ($7M), Korea ($16.1M) and Chile. Also, domestic Thursday previews for the pic were the best October has ever seen with $13.3M. Joker, stateside, is the widest release ever at 4,374 theaters, ahead of Venom‘s 4,350 count.

 

[Schlosser85]

Looks like he not going to get a fair shot at a Oscar.

They're the ones being irresponsible and shouldn't be voters then.

 

[terry78]

I won't hate if the former two beat it, but if it can still maintain that spot this weekend after Gemini Man, Addams Family and Jexi, you know it has legs.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I won't hate if the former two beat it, but if it can still maintain that spot this weekend after Gemini Man, Addams Family and Jexi, you know it has legs.

I have a feeling all of those are going to bomb...

 

[Schlosser85]

Regarding the whole "can Batman exist in this Gotham?"/"Can Batman still exist if Thomas Wayne was a bad person?" debate:

- How is this Gotham City any different than usual? If anything it's more comic accurate than usual, by really going into what a grimy cesspool Gotham is.

- As other people have pointed out, Bruce is a young boy when his father dies and is probably going to have rose-tinted idealized memories of him unless Thomas was an unloving father, which there's no indication of, given how angry he is over Arthur touching Bruce and how his last act is trying to shield his family from the gunman. Also Thomas Wayne was still on a self-professed mission to clean up the city/help the less fortunate, whether or not his motivation was as altruistic/idealistic as in other versions. So Bruce will still have those things to remember. And theoretically, if Bruce grows up to realize things weren't so black-and-white, that his father might have had worthy goals but was a flawed person, it could galvanize Bruce to strive even harder to be truly "good", to serve the same end goals as his father in improving Gotham while being a better man than his father was.

- Do we really even know 100% how "bad" this Thomas Wayne is? Sure, he comes across like an elitist out-of-touch snob and a bit full of himself, a more stereotypical pompous billionaire than the idealist he's typically portrayed as, but what's the worst thing he actually does onscreen? Punch the creepy weirdo who was lurking around his home and touched his son? Also Arthur made up a whole romantic relationship in his head, so we should take everything with a potential grain of salt, and he'd certainly have motivation to internally paint Thomas Wayne in a negative light, which may or may not line up with objective reality.

 

[TheFuture]

More quotes. Should be an interesting awards campaign.

"Outstanding," "Irresponsible": Oscar Voters React to 'Joker,' With Many Avoiding It

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but the academy member who spoke of seeing the film with her two nephews, "two fine young men in their twenties", comes across as utterly dismissive towards the masses. She comes across as the sort of aloof snob this film was so critical of.

 

[AcidRain]

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but the academy member who spoke of seeing the film with her two nephews, "two fine young men in their twenties", comes across as utterly dismissive towards the masses. She comes across as the sort of aloof snob this film was so critical of.

She then went on to say that they both liked TDK better, which is utterly irrelevant. If some people only knew how uninformed they come across.

 

[Schlosser85]

She then went on to say that they both liked TDK better, which is utterly irrelevant. If some people only knew how uninformed they come across.

Even both taking elements from Batman comics, and both featuring a version of The Joker as a major character, TDK and Joker are completely different kinds of movies. Even TDK is a more conventional CBM than Joker. Joker is Taxi Driver/King of Comedy with a comic book movie sprinkling on top.

 

[terry78]

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but the academy member who spoke of seeing the film with her two nephews, "two fine young men in their twenties", comes across as utterly dismissive towards the masses. She comes across as the sort of aloof snob this film was so critical of.

That right there invalidates her argument, there ain't no such thing.

 

[Schlosser85]

She sounds like her nephews were the dudebros Arthur shot on the subway and she's ******** about it.

 

[TheFuture]

She then went on to say that they both liked TDK better, which is utterly irrelevant. If some people only knew how uninformed they come across.

That didn't bother me so much, it was the more the preamble she laid down of "these boys are what I deem to be good boys in my book therefore their opinion means more than the rest of you peons."

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

First of all, Black Panther is the greatest comic book movie ever made Secondly... I don't have any more points to make actually.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Black Panther is possibly the most overrated comic book film ever, in my opinion.

 

[terry78]

That's the fault of the public. Though as a black comic book fan to actually have one done where the bulk of the cast is black, it wasn't overrated in that sense at all.

 

[Rod]

It begins

 

[Rod]

And another record!

 

[The Endless]

I'm itching to see Phoenix play this Joker again, but in his prime.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I'm itching to see Phoenix play this Joker again, but in his prime.

Same here. I'd say at this point the possibility is up in the air, but we do know Phoenix wouldn't mind playing him again.

 

[The Endless]

I never thought I'd feel this way. I was perfectly happy with a one and done story. But it would be a crying shame to never see him again.

 

[Maze]

I feel the same way. I can see the possibilities, but a sequel is not necessary... unless they are inspired by a grand idea... we'll see

 

[Closerframe]

I hope they don't make a sequel. If they did, almost all the ambiguity of the first would be gone.