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I think this film is certain to outdo R1, but the question is will this outdo TFA? I think it will land somewhere in between.
Actually using this logic, Luke really hasn't been on screen in 30+ years and sadly this will be the final time we get to see Carrie as Leia. And now the likes of Rey, Kylo, Finn, Poe and BB-8 are quite liked. It won't make TFA money, but I could totally see it topping JW.I voted $1.2-1.4 billion. The China market couldn't care less and the 30+ year absence of the big three on screen isn't a factor this time.
TFA rode the wave of nostalgia.
TLJ will have to establish it's own usp.
I'm expecting big numbers, possibly not quite of the level of TFA though.
I think there are 3 factors that will lead TLJ in making more money than TFA:
1) The general audiences love the new characters (Rey, Finn, Kylo, Poe) and will want to see more of them again.
2) We're getting more Luke this time. In fact, he is a major part of the plot. And after the cliffhanger type ending of TFA, people are dying to see what happens next.
3) This is Carrie Fisher's last film.
Been wanting for this thread to show up. I think a lot of people are underestimating what this movie is going to make USA wise. I have heard a lot of people say that 7 is going to have a big drop from 7 and I just don't see that. I think 8 is going to make at worst 100 million less USA then 7 did. A lot of people talk about how 7 had the OT cast and such but I think a lot of people where turned away from star wars after the PT and I think a lot of people trust star wars again after how well 7 turned out and after R1. So with that said I don't see a 200-300 million USA drop like a lot of people say. Before Fisher passed I was seeing similer numbers to 7. Now that she is gone I think the movie is going to do even better. I see around 1 to 1.1 billion USA. The rest of the world I think will do a little better then 7. So I think we are looking at around 1.2 billion rest of the world maybe a little more. If we could get China on board that could really get this movie to make some crazy numbers but that may be unlikely.
OW 300 Million with final boxoffice numbers has follow.
USA 1.1 billion
Out side 1.2 billion
WW 2.3 billion
No way it hits more than $2 billion WW. This is not TFA, but a very different animal.
Before Carrie's passing, I thought it'd no way get close to the Force Awakens. Maybe 1.5 billion. But now... maybe? For instance, Fast 8 should never have made as much as it did. Especially compared with how much the rest of the films made. But people were curious about how Paul Walker's death would be managed. Same years ago with Heath Ledger's death making The Dark Knight a billion dollars compared to Batman Begin's $374 million. And Carrie Fisher is more beloved than both Paul and Heath were. So... Carrie's sad passing is going to help this movie a lot.
Saying a very different animal almost makes it sound like you think it is going to do something really crazy like 3 billion but they you say no way it hits more then 2 billion? So what are you thinking? I think the only way this movie makes less then 2 billion is if it is a bad movie.
Ok, let me explain:
1. TFA was the first SW film in 10 years and the first SW film in 32 years to feature the original cast. TLJ won't have either of these factors. It won't be the 1st SW film in 10 years nor it will feature the main cast for the first time in 32 years.
2. These same above mentioned novelty factors were used amazingly in a heavy and successful marketing campaign for TFA. And a successful marketing campaign always brings in the $$$.
3.TLJ won't rely as much on nostalgia.
4. A big factor that might bring it to $2 billion could be Carrie's death, but I don't see Disney trying to excessively take advantage of that.
5. As much as I don't want to say this, you have to consider a part of the audience that didn't like TFA and won't show up for TLJ. Of course, this also goes vice versa and many new fans were attracted as well.
By different animal I meant that TLJ will rely on different factors for its BO numbers than TFA did. It will be huge and i can barely wait for it, i am just trying to be objective. I believe it might hit somewhere between $1.5 - 1.8 billion.