The McCain Thread

[jaguarr]

I doubt McCain is stupid enough to nominate a VP based solely on what genitals they have.

jag

 

[Franklin Richards]

So, I've been thinking about McCain's age a bit more since he announced Palin. Honestly, it wasn't something that concerned me a whole lot before, but the more I think about it, the more I start to become concerned about it. Yes, I know he's supposedly been given a clean bill of health by his doctors and all, but there are a few factors that affect my thinking around his currently clean bill of health. The first is that he's had four bouts of cancer. Yes, he's beaten them, but if it comes back and takes him down (not out of the realm of possibility)? The second is that he was tortured heavily as POW. That takes years off of a person's life and affects their long-term health, no matter how you look at it. The third is that, at that age, health can turn south very quickly with very little warning, even when a person is in otherwise great health. And the fourth is that the stress of the job of POTUS is immense (and that's understating it). Look at how much Bush aged, even in just his first four years. Look at Bill Clinton as he progressed through his Presidency. The amount of stress that position comes with is incredible and clearly ages a person faster than what would otherwise be normal. This could also have adverse effects on McCain. If any of these very easily occurring things were to come to pass, Palin's in the big chair and frankly, that scares me a bit.

jag

I don't care how healthy he is. People over 70 shouldn't be allowed to drive, much less hold The Button.

 

[rdh007]

I think Romney would have been worse, actually. I don't think his faith would secure the evangelical wing of the Republican Party. Palin is at least a dedicated Christian, who has a record of supporting all the positions she currently supports. Unlike Romney, who ran as a liberal when he was running for Governor but magically changed his positions a year before he ran for President.

McCain has secured the Republican base, but I don't know if this will help him in the long run. It may help him now, but in the coming months, I think people will hesitate to vote for McCain-Palin. This VP picks reeks of desperation.

I don't know that the evangelicals are also the base. There are a lot of them, and they certainly helped in 2004, but the base? I don't know.

I won't argue that Palin is more consistent than Mitt, but I would argue that he is eminently more qualified to succeed McCain, if for no other reason than he ran a state that people live in. I liked the sense that Mitt would listen to his constituency, but that doesn't always play well. But, I can understand why McCain didn't pick him. You couldn't pick on Biden's Obama criticisms and then turn around and pick your biggest critic. Though apparently that doesn't count for the "Experience counts" critique.

 

[The Senator]

I think John McCain just shored up any holdouts of the Democratic Party that Obama and the Clinton's didn't reach. John McCain's decision to pick Sarah Palin as his VP is ridiculously transparent...not to mention incredibly insulting.

It is insulting. It is insulting to this country to select someone with twenty months worth of experience to serve a heartbeat away from the presidency. It is insulting to select someone who hasn't had enough time to demonstrate her ability to lead as a running mate. And it is BEYOND insulting, and just plain disgusting, to select a running mate SOLELY because of her gender.

Hillary Clinton will be fighting this, I have no doubt about it. Because while she may hope that McCain-Palin wins so that in four years, she can run for President... she doesn't want to be left out of the history books herself. If Palin becomes VP, then she becomes the highest woman to ever hold office in this country. If Palin wins, she'll have enough time to develop a reputation, and perhaps become a strong candidate for the presidency in eight years. And where will that leave Hillary? In eight years under a female Vice President, voters will start to forget about her. And if Clinton ran against Palin, she knows that the country would have to choose between an extremely polarizing candidate and a well-liked candidate who has had time to prove herself a leader in the executive branch.

Mark my words, the Clintons will fight this. Hillary's legacy depends on it.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i always thought of McCain as a joke, but with the pick of Palin as his VP i now think of him as a very BAD joke. at least i can imagine Biden being ready to take over as president if Obama were to die while in office. McCain is already 72 and he just picked someone who clearly isn't ready to be president in the likely event that McCain kicks the bucket.

 

[Marx]

i always thought of McCain as a joke, but with the pick of Palin as his VP i now think of him as a very BAD joke. at least i can imagine Biden being ready to take over as president if Obama were to die while in office. McCain is already 72 and he just picked someone who clearly isn't ready to be president in the likely event that McCain kicks the bucket.

Biden is more than qualified to be President. (I believe he would be an excellent one.) Palin...on the other hand...just isn't.

 

[jaguarr]

I honestly can't fathom the thought of Palin trying to reason and negotiate with someone like Putin or that Iranian President, Mr. Abwhatever

jag

 

[chaseter]

Well Johnny...after your VP pick I will not vote for you no matter what you say. I do not like Obama but at least he got Biden. You don't need a genius to figure out why you asked a woman.

 

[terry78]

Like I said before, McCain is too senile right now. He's going to be at a press conference, see an Asian reporter ask him a question, and then start going into shell shock talking about how "Charlie ain't gonna get the drop on us this time, boys!"

 

[javphonic]

In other news, scientists have just discovered that the Earth does in fact revolve around the sun.

So it's not just you.

nice....

but sadly, even though everyone knows... I feel it'll still work

 

[Franklin Richards]

But can she spell potatoes?

 

[kainedamo]

I was watching the Palin speech earlier today.

I thought to myself, at least her son is in Iraq. Most of these (excuse my french) they make these decisions and there's no risk to them. At least her kid is in Iraq so she knows how other families feel. Still, doesn't stop the fact that the Iraq war is wrong, doesn't stop the fact that they have inadequate equipment thats caused deaths, doesn't stop the fact that these guys get (excuse my french) once they come home and end up having to leave for another tour within months of getting home.

 

[souvlaki]

I was watching the Palin speech earlier today.

I thought to myself, at least her son is in Iraq. Most of these (excuse my french) they make these decisions and there's no risk to them. At least her kid is in Iraq so she knows how other families feel. Still, doesn't stop the fact that the Iraq war is wrong, doesn't stop the fact that they have inadequate equipment thats caused deaths, doesn't stop the fact that these guys get (excuse my french) once they come home and end up having to leave for another tour within months of getting home.

Ironically enough she has no opinion on the war in Iraq. She says she's been too busy dealing with her own state to pay attention to the war. Seriously, that is a big, huge, WTF.

 

[kainedamo]

Ironically enough she has no opinion on the war in Iraq. She says she's been too busy dealing with her own state to pay attention to the war. Seriously, that is a big, huge, WTF.

Hmm, Biden is probably gonna tear her apart in the debates.

 

[SuBe]

I was watching the Palin speech earlier today.

I thought to myself, at least her son is in Iraq. Most of these (excuse my french) they make these decisions and there's no risk to them. At least her kid is in Iraq so she knows how other families feel. Still, doesn't stop the fact that the Iraq war is wrong, doesn't stop the fact that they have inadequate equipment thats caused deaths, doesn't stop the fact that these guys get (excuse my french) once they come home and end up having to leave for another tour within months of getting home.

Have you met anyone in the US Military that has been in Iraq, or anyone that has been wounded there?

 

[RAMORE]

I don't care how healthy he is. People over 70 shouldn't be allowed to drive, much less hold The Button.

Ok now this is just wrong and insulting on so many levels and you are wrong for saying it

 

[jaguarr]

Ironically enough she has no opinion on the war in Iraq. She says she's been too busy dealing with her own state to pay attention to the war. Seriously, that is a big, huge, WTF.

Doesn't she have a son over there? How can you not have an opinion on the war when you have a child that's in it?

jag

 

[kainedamo]

Have you met anyone in the US Military that has been in Iraq, or anyone that has been wounded there?

Nope.

 

[kainedamo]

Michael Stipe might leave the US if McCain wins.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sh...+Michael+Stipe+Wants+US+To+Elect+Barack+Obama

 

[SuBe]

Michael Stipe might leave the US if McCain wins.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sh...+Michael+Stipe+Wants+US+To+Elect+Barack+Obama

I hope so. Kaine, I'm surprised you are taking that seriously, I'm still waiting for Susan Sarandon and Barbara Streisand to leave from the 2000 elections.

 

[SuBe]

Nope.

Just so u know, of all the Marines and Soliders I know, most of them has been to Iraq multiple times, Ordered to go the first time. Volunteered to go the 2nd and 3rd. My brother, on his 2nd tour, got caught in an IED explosion, and re-habed for 6 months, and went back for a 3rd tour. Because he believes in the mission. He sees the look on the Iraqi childrens faces. The admiration in the people there, and the Thanks he gets from them. The Military guys know they are doing a good job and are getting the job done. Even thought the Media don't report it.

 

[chaseter]

I hope so. Kaine, I'm surprised you are taking that seriously, I'm still waiting for Susan Sarandon and Barbara Streisand to leave from the 2000 elections.

I think most of us will help them with that.

As for McCain appointing Palin, he is doomed. Trying to scoop up Hillary supporters along with a landmark as a woman for VP doesn't match the landmark as a black man for president and Biden is far better than Palin anyways. Sorry McCain but you lost now.

 

[kainedamo]

Just so u know, of all the Marines and Soliders I know, most of them has been to Iraq multiple times, Ordered to go the first time. Volunteered to go the 2nd and 3rd. My brother, on his 2nd tour, got caught in an IED explosion, and re-habed for 6 months, and went back for a 3rd tour. Because he believes in the mission. He sees the look on the Iraqi childrens faces. The admiration in the people there, and the Thanks he gets from them. The Military guys know they are doing a good job and are getting the job done. Even thought the Media don't report it.

So it must piss you off that the Republicans have treated troops so badly over the last eight years, huh?

 

[The Chairman]

I hope so. Kaine, I'm surprised you are taking that seriously, I'm still waiting for Susan Sarandon and Barbara Streisand to leave from the 2000 elections.

Sarandon threatened to leave last year.

 

[SuBe]

So it must piss you off that the Republicans have treated troops so badly over the last eight years, huh?

No, because I was in the Marines during Sept 11th 2001, up until 2005. So, no, I was never treated badly. My brother has never been treated badly. All my friends have never been treated badly. So, no. It doesn't piss me off that the Republicans have treated troops badly, infact I like what they did, they increased the Pay for Troops, that's something that Clinton didn't get around to doing.

Oh, I know what it is, you are believing the Liberal Media News Outlets. Thats why you think that they have it so bad. Ok, gotcha.